Once I see the sweet panda bear posting, I know it's time to stop reading.
"Somehow"? - You mean those of us who have considered the past, history, that very important aspect of our development as a species that you've already admitted you don't care anything about? If you really didn't know how we came to actually hold this position, which is already pretty skewed to begin with, which I'll explain in a second, then there is your answer. We were educated about it. Not simply "told a thousand times", like you were.
"they hate us because of what we have and they want to take it away" - That's gotta be honestly the stupidest most simple explination I've ever heard regarding the conflict in the middle east and American foreign policy... That's a talking point you've "been told a thousand times" that you don't even understand. What do they hate Jeff? Our freedoms? Our liberties? Our materialistic posessions? What is it they hate exactly? Why would they hate it? We seem to be a pretty prosperous people, why would any other human beings hate something we all enjoy so much? Think about it.
The main reason there is so much tension between the east and the west in the middle is because of American foreign policy the past century. We established governments and invaded nations for our own interest, that is obvious. The Shah in 53' in Iran, Sadaam, we gave American made weapons to the Taliban, billions in aid and training to covertly fight the USSR. American foreign policy, focused on American corporate interests, were a big part of why the Bin Ladin family was so powerful. Billions a year in aid to Saudi Arabia, Billions a year to Pakistan (both Islamic nations). But the deepest hand in our pocket has always been Israel. Which consequently is the second largest factor contributing to tension between the east and the west, imo. We support their actions no matter what, even terrorism, and justify it by saying it's reactionary or necessary, business as usual to keep American interests -- that is a powerful Ally and launching point in the middle east -- safe.
The only way to solve this problem is to stop the cycle of violence, via the established rule of law and western justice system.
It's not our fault, in the sense of you personally and me personally. No. That's not what I'm saying, I've never said that. It's our governments fault, it's our foreign policies fault, it's the fault of corruption, it's partly the fault of holes within the capitalist system, and like most problems, it's partly peoples ignorance of all these different individual aspects of the problem at large. None of these problems are unsolvable.
Their violence is reactionary to our policies, I guarantee that.
The ones that wish to kill or convert every non Muslim - fuck em. If that's their belief, and they cannot be reasoned with by any means, then I wouldn't have any problem fighting a war against them. That is true evil, evil against freedom and democracy and freedom of choice and freedom of thought. Everything I am against as a human being, if there is anything I would be glad to fight a war over, it would be that. But there are other ways to do this, to solve this problem. You do not need to resort to violence. Have you never heard the phrase "the pen is mightier than the sword"? Education is KEY, intelligence disolves ignorance. When people begin to think for themselves and stop listening to their governments and media at large, the group mentality falls apart and what is the 'norm' becomes something desperately needing introspection. The way we handle things as humans is so primal and basic, it's almost laughable to call us intelligent. When it comes down to it, we are simply animals, and we act as such at our most vulnerable state. We react on emotion, and justify it with fear to make the little voice in our head remind us it's all OK, and we were on the right team. To that I leave you with a brilliant quote after the costliest war in human history "war doesn't decide who is right, only who is left" - Einstein.
Your mentality is disturbing Jeff. Ever seen a psychiatrist?
May God be less.
No accusing necessary. Your words say it all.
Enjoy!
once again your ignorance of the enemy surfaces.. Have you never heard the phrase "the pen is mightier than the sword"? Education is KEY, intelligence disolves ignorance.
May God be less.
They don't want our 'toys' as much as they want an Isalmic world. Sharia Law etc. Everything their 'Sharia Law' stands for is the exact opposite of our Constitution. Everything.
Thank you. You are correct. Islam calls for Jihad. And 'Islam' mean SUBMIT.
Education is when you do it and indoctrination is when the other guy does it?
, that takes a special kind of special...) and taking the governments (that same government that uses him as a pawn to accomplish it's monetary goals and userp more and more power) word at face value, and nothing more "because they have our best interest in mind", and profits and corporate gains aren't even considered... I mean, not in the real world where Jeff lives anyway apparently...
a few of the emotions i get from all this...lol
I never said I was prepared to answer the question of what we should do to guard against Islamic terror. Even if I could, such measures would surely require lengthy contemplation, deliberation and debate. Serious people with serious thoughts do not just pull snap decisions on public policy out of their hind quarters. We leave that kind of foolish hubris to you Liberals.
Man is your reading comprehension bad.
First, thank you for your service.
I have studied islam and have several friend that are muslim and both seem to contradict what you are saying.