dstroy
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Libertarians believe the poor guy doesn’t have a right to water.
Libertarianism makes you stupid
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Libertarians believe the poor guy doesn’t have a right to water.
Rob Roy
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So you retract your former claim, that Libertarians don't believe in insurance and open a new topic, is that it ?
dstroy
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Poor guy can buy water insurance == paradox
Rob Roy
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Free market solution. Cooperate with friends and neighbors and/or make your own damn water!
dstroy
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No cracks in that system that will cause cruel unnecessary death. What countries can we look to that have disjointed utility systems like you propose? India 30 years ago, rampant waterborne disease and death.
This is king stupid.
Rob Roy
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I didn't propose that as the ONLY solution, did you assume I did?
If you make that water it's yours, OTHER water could be treated differently. If there is water no person made or "created" then a claim of ownership would be harder to justify. I don't advocate starving the serfs of all the
water that exists in it's natural state.
dstroy
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serf
[sərf]
NOUN
- an agricultural laborer bound under the feudal system to work on his lord's estate
Rob Roy
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sarcasm, the thing Rob Roy uses when he calls people "serf". when he really means "citizen" whether you consent or not.
Rob Roy
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cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Rufus T. Firefly
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brilliant
Rob Roy
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Yes. It's the coercion that needs to go.
If it doesn't need to go, what is the point of having a government which will "protect people from other people who might coerce them" ?
What really happens with a coercion based government as the "protector" is their actions effectively say "we will make sure hardly anybody uses coercion against you, except for us, we reserve the right to make arbitrary rules. steal from you and enslave you, but we'll stop others from doing it. You are, our bitch" .
The foregoing is absolutely and irrefutably true, which is why nobody that supports a coercion based government will ever address it.
HGCC
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Isn't any form of government or ruling body coercion based? So you kind of just have to be an anarchist opposed to any and all government to stay in a philosophical moral right.
I dont think it's a bad view, but doesn't (and cant) work in the real world. Libertarians seem like trying to smash some government and anarchy together...the real world results are silly nonsense that leads to bears eating people and the whole host of other shit we make fun of. Fuckin seasteading.
Just say your an anarchist and be done with it.
I dont think it's a bad view, but doesn't (and cant) work in the real world. Libertarians seem like trying to smash some government and anarchy together...the real world results are silly nonsense that leads to bears eating people and the whole host of other shit we make fun of. Fuckin seasteading.
Just say your an anarchist and be done with it.
Rob Roy
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Self governance and the abilty to give or withhold your consent is the default status of a free person.
The corollary that goes with that, is you respect the right of other people to do the same.
There is nothing that prevents people from agreeing to other arrangements for a given project or set of standards as long as peaceful people do not have their consent removed.
As far as "it will never work". That is wrong, it's the only thing that will work, if consent is to be protected rather than violated.
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Rob Roy
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They all are.
That's because planning how much you will take and what you will spend it on absent the explicit consent of the real owner is a shitty thing to do.
Roger A. Shrubber
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being an anarchist isn't stupid enough...you have to throw that libertarian cherry on top of the sundae of stupidity to achieve perfect moronicness...."we want a political party that eats itself, embodies all the bad parts of fascism, and none of the good parts of fucking anything..."
dstroy
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His whole premise assumes that everyone will act like a libertarian instead of a warlord.
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