LIST:HELP ME PULL THE TRIGGER(14'x15' room) 6- Flower X 1K+T5's-Veg. 2-Ton mini Split

Had to bite the bullet and do it some time, huh.......Took my first clones ever.

Got the rockwool plugs to 5.5-5.6 after all night soaking starting at 5.5 and a rise to 5.8(wtf). I used the rapid rooter plugs as well to see if anything can get going...I did all diff. things pretty much...some of those larger leaves you see there were trimmed...some not. Got them on the shelve(s) I put up on a heat mat as you can see.

The thermostat for the heat mat should be around what.........78 degrees in the dome??

i usually keep mine a little warmer. around 82.. works well for me i usually get them in about 6-10 days. ive only used rockwool once, i like the rapid rooters and clonex. did you let your rapid rooters soak overnight too? ive never tried that.
ive found my ph goes up a little if i let the water chill in my res over night.

as long as you cut below the node and at a 45degree you should get most of them. lol my first try took over 2 weeks for first sight of roots. GL man

patrickkawi37 said:

i usually keep mine a little warmer. around 82.. works well for me i usually get them in about 6-10 days. ive only used rockwool once, i like the rapid rooters and clonex. did you let your rapid rooters soak overnight too? ive never tried that.
ive found my ph goes up a little if i let the water chill in my res over night.

as long as you cut below the node and at a 45degree you should get most of them. lol my first try took over 2 weeks for first sight of roots. GL man

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Thanks Patrick! I didn't soak the rapid rooters...They were actually the ones that came already moist in the tray. I removed about half and put the rockwool plugs in place of those. So, the rockwool was at 5.5 after I re-ph'd them after climbing to at least 5.8 overnight.

But I did just that....I tried to cut below what I thought would be an alright node and trim off any extra fan leave up the stem if there were any(nodes/leaves)..........There's a couple that I'll be very surprised if they don't take after 7-10 days but I'll give them enough time until they die in order to see if they root I guess.

I'm not getting any moisture inside the dome for some reason....I put extra water in the bottom of the outer tray and it evaporated...now I've put more in...I've now set the thermostat end in one of the empty rapid rooter plugs because it wasn't even turning on when set at 78 degrees when it's about that anyways in the room(74-80 degrees @ <50% humidity in room depending).

I've been working on the flower room.....I have 18 and will keep a couple for moms but the 15-16 going into flower are past due. I only have 9'+ ceilings and these are already 21-24 inches tall from the top of the 3 gallon buckets.

Just got done with some bloom room ducting tonight........man that was a bitch trying to do it on top of my drain tables!
The pics below don't show it completely finished...I took them before I ran to the hydro store to pick up some more 8" duct. BTW, this aluminum duct seems like it's going to hold up and just work all around better than the thin stuff I started with. The aluminum duct isn't in the pic here...I just did put some in between a couple of hoods though.

6 1K's sitting in Mag. XXXL hoods in bloom room...Pics. from opposite ends of room:

lookin good man, when you firing it up

It's been fired up with just one run of lights and air through there only....worked pretty well...I NEED to get these 22-25 inch plants in there ASAP and I just watered/fed last night...Hopefully by today/tonight but def. at least by sometime tomorrow.

I heard to put them in flower with something like 80% water...or was it 20%....Anyways, what's better...stick them in there for a half day straight out of veg. lighting or what?? I'm guessing not from night to wake up to even 600 watts of HPS but I could be wrong....

Any advice here?

FINALLY finished FLOWER room and just moved plants into flower at 3:30pm today. I had veg. on 24hrs and then I changed it to 18hrs(ON 5am-11pm) for the past 2-3 days.

I decided to stick the plants in flower through until about 9 tonight through about 7am tomorrow in order to give them 10hrs of darkness instead of 12 full hrs. of darkness the first day....Figured it would be less of a shock....Tomorrow I'll switch it to 11 or 12 I figured.

Please let me know your guys' thoughts on the above!! Feedback from anyone who knows what they're doing is appreciated as this is my first grow...All my $ is tied up in this project and I'm tapping the bank out so it has to work.


Here are the plants when first moved with just regular lighting....Keep in mind how they look HERE!:


Here are the plants after some HPS lighting...I raised the lights to about 35 inches above the tops of the plants and dimmed my Phantom ballasts to 600 watts to start. I hope they don't kick on at 7am at a full 1K watts...Guess I'll be here to check!!

Anyways, tell me that the plants don't look different w/regards to a comparison of the leaves' "perkiness"?!?!??
This is kind of the way they looked after they went from veg. light-to dark-to me and under veg. light again in the period of about 5 hours during the day they were moved. Is it shock/stress??

If so, what stress are they experiencing here besides the light spectrum change? They were much more 'droopy' later today right before lights out at 9pm!! Please help and enlighten me!!!!!


Here are the 2 moms I'm kepping under T5(soon to be moved off veg. table):

Just to reiterate....The pics. of the plants under the HPS lighting don't show the full extent of what I'm talking about....They were at least double the 'droopiness' if not much more before lights out. Temp. was kept about the same as veg. if not slightly cooler and humidity was the same for the most part as well.[75-80 degrees and 45%-55% humidity].

lookin good man. i usually take mine from the t5s and veg under the hps a day or two to get them used to the light before i flip. you are probably just experiencing a little shock.
make a thread in indoor growing and youll get more help, im still a noobish
i would keep the lights at 30 inches or so for a few days, and then bring them down. once they are used to the light, keep the lights real close so you dont get alot of stretch (12-18 inches). bud ignitor from advanced is supposed to help them start stacking sooner and avoid some stretch. what nutes are you using?
make sure you come on light with your bloom nutes, less is more. i usually run right around 78-80 degrees
make sure not to over water early in flower, get something good(roots excell) to make sure you have a solid root system developed, you should start seeing rapid growth (1-2inches a day) within a couple days.

patrickkawi37 said:

lookin good man. i usually take mine from the t5s and veg under the hps a day or two to get them used to the light before i flip. you are probably just experiencing a little shock.
make a thread in indoor growing and youll get more help, im still a noobish
i would keep the lights at 30 inches or so for a few days, and then bring them down. once they are used to the light, keep the lights real close so you dont get alot of stretch (12-18 inches). bud ignitor from advanced is supposed to help them start stacking sooner and avoid some stretch. what nutes are you using?
make sure you come on light with your bloom nutes, less is more. i usually run right around 78-80 degrees
make sure not to over water early in flower, get something good(roots excell) to make sure you have a solid root system developed, you should start seeing rapid growth (1-2inches a day) within a couple days.

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Thanks for the info bruther! I was trying to avoid the stress/shock as much as possible...I should have done what you did but that's hind sight now, right....

Anyways, I've running the Roots Excelerator, Floralicious, and Flora Nectar all at 1ml/gallon. I get a .3 EC from that and then raise the EC to 1.2-1.3 with Flora Gro and then just PH up it to 6.0 and feed every 2-3 days depending.

Sound okay?

sounds great man. im not too familiar with your nutes but the roots excel kills it, and makes cloning idiotproof. what did you transplant the cubes into? mix4? how many lights did you fire up?

check out my grow, im about to chop tomorrow

patrickkawi37 said:

sounds great man. im not too familiar with your nutes but the roots excel kills it, and makes cloning idiotproof. what did you transplant the cubes into? mix4? how many lights did you fire up?

check out my grow, im about to chop tomorrow

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Damn...lol....I didn't use any Roots Excel with the clones I took. Do you water the medium or just let it sit inside the bottom of the outer tray...Let me know how you apply the Roots Excel with clones and I'll do it now and/or for the future clones.

OKAY...I didn't see any directions with this carbon scrubber and I've never dealt with one. Anyone know how to hook up this scrubber to the fan? They're both Hydrofarm(Active Air).

That last pic is just the fan sitting on top of it. I want to mount the whole thing parallel to the ground attached to the rafters with a set of heavy duty straps so that it sits about 7'-8' off the ground...I can do that but how does the fan attach to the flat piece of the scrubber??

You're missing the flange that allows you to connect them. You can see one in this combo kit: Active Air 2016 Filter Combo

You can probably get just about any sized flange from any hydro store (if it's a pain to find the Active Air ones) and attach it to your filter with some lag screws...then you can run duct work to/from fand or duct tape fan directly to filter. Also, most flanges come with a foam or rubber gasket...if not, I'd recommend squirting a thick bead of silicone between flange and filter so there aren't any leaks.

jcommerce said:

You're missing the flange that allows you to connect them. You can see one in this combo kit: Active Air 2016 Filter Combo

You can probably get just about any sized flange from any hydro store (if it's a pain to find the Active Air ones) and attach it to your filter with some lag screws...then you can run duct work to/from fand or duct tape fan directly to filter. Also, most flanges come with a foam or rubber gasket...if not, I'd recommend squirting a thick bead of silicone between flange and filter so there aren't any leaks.

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Okay, I have a 8" flange...I had bought extra anyways. So just drill the flange down into the green top of the scrubber and use the gasket/weather strip it comes with, right? Much appreciated JCommerce!!

^You've got it! (I'd do some small pilot holes with a drill bit first )

jcommerce said:

^You've got it! (I'd do some small pilot holes with a drill bit first )

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Okay so after going in to drop the lights down a bit and prune, I got the 8" flange and the pre-drilled holes for that are of a lesser diameter than the filter.

Conclusion: The carbon scrubber is meant for a 10" flange.

Question: Should I just run to the hydro store and get a 10"-8" reducer OR should I just make new pilot holes through the 8" flange out wider to fit the scrubber while plugging up the old holes with a tiny piece of weather strip for now.

Addition: I have all the extra materials, tools, 10" flange and duct etc. to do either job...except the reducer if I were to go that route. I don't have another 10" fan and the scrubber is rated 400-800 cfm anyways...The 8" fan I believe "says" ~700+

The Hydro store closes in an hour and a half!
Here's 2 opposing holes...One meets up on the very inner diameter and the opposing hole does not.

Here's just a quick comparable view:

Well, I don't have anyone that can help me get the scrubber up for days at least and it's a little heavy to do myself w/out long "come along" straps. It's made for at least a 10" fan I guess as it's atleast 39" X 15".

I've set it up outside the room but in the garage now with a 10"->8" reducer and some noise/vibration clamps that I had originally ordered. I went and just bought the reducer from the hydro store up the street....It's just sitting upright now.

Ty13 said:

Damn...lol....I didn't use any Roots Excel with the clones I took. Do you water the medium or just let it sit inside the bottom of the outer tray...Let me know how you apply the Roots Excel with clones and I'll do it now and/or for the future clones.

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i get a bucket of water ph it and put 1ml of roots excel per gallon. then i drop the rooters in and let them soak a few mins, then put them in the trays and drop in the cuts.. after i pour a little bit of the water and roots excel over the top of the cuts but not alot, then in about 3 or 4 days if the rooters start to get a little dry add the same. i usually get clones 7-10days like that. how are your cuts turning out?
how are your girls looking?

how many plants you wanna grow? about 500+ by the looks of that shopping list