Little clones need help.

potpimp

potpimp

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skunkushybrid said:
hey potpimp, I'm not a soil grower so I cannot really comment on soil-grown cannabis not needing any nutes. I thought the good soil only had enough nutes to sustain cannabis for the first 3 weeks of its life.

MY real question though is, why'd you ask about the cloning gel?

To both the first and second guy, post some pic's... although to me this sounds like an undernuting problem, caused by either a lack of nutrients or a pH imbalance.
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Everybody knows that FDD is the man when it comes to soil grows. I did, however, do a full grow in some kicked up soil and only added a little bit of nutes every now and then but mostly it was just Sweet Leaf. Maybe I've just bought into the marketing scheme but I thought cloning gel would give you a better chance at your clones becoming viable. Just wondered if he had used them.
 
skunkushybrid

skunkushybrid

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potpimp said:
Everybody knows that FDD is the man when it comes to soil grows. I did, however, do a full grow in some kicked up soil and only added a little bit of nutes every now and then but mostly it was just Sweet Leaf. Maybe I've just bought into the marketing scheme but I thought cloning gel would give you a better chance at your clones becoming viable. Just wondered if he had used them.
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No, I doubt cloning gel has anything to do with the viability of a clone after it has rooted... or are you talking about before? Even if it is the latter, I doubt it does much but stimulate the plant's natural hormones into responding quicker, if it does anything at all.
 
potpimp

potpimp

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I was talking about immediately after you take the clone, before it grows any roots. I've had better success with rooting gels than not using them. The gel I use (and probably all of them) has hormones that stimulate rooting. I know there are people on here who have good results not using anything; that's just the way I do it. Also, I've heard of people getting near 100% results with the aerocloner. I gotta get me one!
 
skunkushybrid

skunkushybrid

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potpimp said:
I was talking about immediately after you take the clone, before it grows any roots. I've had better success with rooting gels than not using them. The gel I use (and probably all of them) has hormones that stimulate rooting. I know there are people on here who have good results not using anything; that's just the way I do it. Also, I've heard of people getting near 100% results with the aerocloner. I gotta get me one!
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You should be able to get 100% results without using an aerocloner. Of course, if you like the idea and don't mind needlessly spending that amount of money on such an item, then that is of course up to you.

I use a very basic method and have a nigh on 100% success rate... no yellowing leaves, no need for nutes...
 

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potpimp

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That is awesome! One thing I forgot to do after I chopped my blueberries last week was to replace the HPS with the MH for the clones. My bad. I've never thought about using Perlite to rest the cubes on; that sounds like it would help out a lot. Thanks!!!
 
skunkushybrid

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potpimp said:
That is awesome! One thing I forgot to do after I chopped my blueberries last week was to replace the HPS with the MH for the clones. My bad. I've never thought about using Perlite to rest the cubes on; that sounds like it would help out a lot. Thanks!!!
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Glad to have helped. Cloning really is easy. Remember to trim those leaves down too, try not to have any overlapping in the propagator, this always leads to yellowing leaves as that part of the leaf has no access to light, and you'll end upo snipping it off anyway. Plus removing the leaf early will help them root quicker.
 
anhedonia

anhedonia

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the atomic haze now looks all droopy and could be having multiple nute defficiency by the color of thier leaves. 3 out of the 4 pure skunk look really bad now. the larger leaves (which werent trimmed really when i bought the clones) are turning yellow and curling. on one of them the green foliage like the tips are starting to turn yellow. im getting a digital ph tester tomorrow and will post the results. i just cant believe this. could it be caused by high temps? my temps are around 80-85 f. or overwatering or nute burn? they were healthy looking when i got them almost 2 weeks ago and they look like they havnt grown hardly at all. theyre still small and frail looking.
 
skunkushybrid

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anhedonia said:
the atomic haze now looks all droopy and could be having multiple nute defficiency by the color of thier leaves. 3 out of the 4 pure skunk look really bad now. the larger leaves (which werent trimmed really when i bought the clones) are turning yellow and curling. on one of them the green foliage like the tips are starting to turn yellow. im getting a digital ph tester tomorrow and will post the results. i just cant believe this. could it be caused by high temps? my temps are around 80-85 f. or overwatering or nute burn? they were healthy looking when i got them almost 2 weeks ago and they look like they havnt grown hardly at all. theyre still small and frail looking.
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Your temps are a little high. Sounds like your plants need nutes. Got any pic's?
 
mal_crane

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anhedonia said:
the atomic haze now looks all droopy and could be having multiple nute defficiency by the color of thier leaves. 3 out of the 4 pure skunk look really bad now. the larger leaves (which werent trimmed really when i bought the clones) are turning yellow and curling. on one of them the green foliage like the tips are starting to turn yellow. im getting a digital ph tester tomorrow and will post the results. i just cant believe this. could it be caused by high temps? my temps are around 80-85 f. or overwatering or nute burn? they were healthy looking when i got them almost 2 weeks ago and they look like they havnt grown hardly at all. theyre still small and frail looking.
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Did you stop using the big bloom flowering fert during vegging yet?
 
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Infintgrn

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Those pics were posted 4 days ago if they haven't started getting better they probly won't. The stems are purple leaves that aren't dead already are curling and yellowing in blotches. This is probly a combination of everything. Heat under/wrong nuts wrong soil. I am H20 only but I would flush and then dose with high nitrogen and a supplement. Do you use supplements to nuits. Soil also acts as a buffer so i really would be to worried about your ph. Buy the bible it is a necessity even for the most experienced.
 
mal_crane

mal_crane

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The biggest problem in this thread is overfeeding with the wrong type of nutes. A quick flush and use of grow big should help any plants that are still living.
 
anhedonia

anhedonia

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im getting a ph tester today. my plants look like shit and seem to be the same size as when i got them. doesnt a ph tester tell you if you have a nut defiency? or is that a ppm tester? do i need both? they run 80 bucks a piece.
 
anhedonia

anhedonia

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so im using ocean forrest and ive only fed them reversed osmosis water and 2 doses of big bloom. i quit the big bloom and fed them super thrive today, tstted the ph and all my plants are around the 7.5-7.8 range. and theyre kinda stunted. theyre not growing for some reason. ive had them for 3 weeks and theyre still the same fucking size. dont know what to do.
 
skunkushybrid

skunkushybrid

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You've got an osmosis machine?

Are you using soil?

If you're using soil then the pH is bad but not bad enough to stop them uptaking enough nutes to grow adequately.

It sounds to me like your plants simply need more nutes, the right nutes of course.

If you're in hydro then you need to flush, flush... then feed the right level of nutrients for the stage of growth the plants are at.
 
mal_crane

mal_crane

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Soil may act as a buffer for ph, but that's still too high of a ph for soil grows. In Soil, you'll want your ph around 6.8ish or else your plants will not be able to accept all of its nutrients you are feeding it.
 
anhedonia

anhedonia

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i flushed my plants the other day and theyr all showing signs of improvement. green growth at the tops of all my plants. i still have to fight to keep the ph down. the run off water is still high.
 
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