Lollipopping/defoliate on Flowering Day 16.

GrowFelixBot · May 5, 2025

Hey guys, need some opinions. It's my first time dealing with such a dense SCROG, so I'm looking for some defoliation advice. What do you think, is it enough? Thanks for the advice! (Plant Height: Pot-Top 80cm)

Edit:
Light: Lumatek ATS 200W Pro
Box: 80x80x180 cm
Exhaust: Prima Klima EC TC 125 (680 m³/h) dialed down to 200 m³/h
Fan Top: Spider Farmer oscillating fan
Fan Bottom: Smaller Amazon fan
Pot: 4x FlexiPot / Autopot 20 L (only 15 L filled)
Water: Rainwater
Medium: 50% Canna Coco Professional, 25% Perlite, 25% Worm, 30 g dolomite lime / pot
Fertilizer (BioTabs): 3 Biotabs / pot, Startrex, Mycotrex, Bactrex, Silicium Flash, Bio PK 5-8 (flower phase top feed), Boom Boom Spray (once a week until day 16 of flower)
Seeds: 4x Barney’s Farm Mimosa x Orange Punch fem
Veg-Time: 30 days
Flower-Time: 16 days
RH: 60–70%
Temp: 26 °C
Pest Prevention: Neem Oil Spray(every 2 weeks during veg phase)

Dboybudz · May 5, 2025

GrowFelixBot said:
Hey guys, need some opinions. It's my first time dealing with such a dense SCROG, so I'm looking for some defoliation advice. What do you think, is it enough? Thanks for the advice! (Plant Height: Pot-Top 80cm)

Looks great!

MickFoster · May 5, 2025

Why are the leaves wet?

GrowFelixBot · May 5, 2025

MickFoster said:
Why are the leaves wet?

Sprayed BioTabs Boom Boom to reduce stress after defoliation.

Delps8 · May 5, 2025

What's RH and air flow like?

Have you done any other grows with this many plants in that tent?

medidedicated · May 5, 2025

I grow differently but could see it work like the guy from the grow under the stairs on youtube. Just not let it get too cluttery.

budman111 · May 5, 2025

I would remove some of those leaf's if it was me, schwazzing time!

GrowFelixBot · May 5, 2025

Delps8 said:
What's RH and air flow like?

Have you done any other grows with this many plants in that tent?

Hey, normally I always struggled with low relative humidity, around 40%, throughout the entire grow. But this time it's different , it's my first run using Autopots, organic soil, and a 50% Coco, 25% Perlit, 25% Worm medium. I honestly underestimated the growth potential, below is a pic showing how my grows usually looked before. Right now, I'm at around 60-70% RH, mainly thanks to the Autopot/fabric pot setup. I'm running one Spider Farmer oscillating fan at the top, a smaller fan at the bottom, and a large exhaust fan (around 700 m³/h) currently dialed down to 200–300 m³/h. The tent is 80x80x180 cm.

GrowFelixBot · May 5, 2025

budman111 said:
I would remove some of those leaf's if it was me, schwazzing time!

Yo, actually I never used the schwazzing technique before, but I was thinking about it, mainly because over the past years I saw a lot of YouTube videos showing plant structures like that, where they barely had any big fan leaves left. But I'm not really sure when the best time for it is, and if it's actually that smart to remove all the fan leaves?¿

Delps8 · May 5, 2025

GrowFelixBot said:
Hey, normally I always struggled with low relative humidity, around 40%, throughout the entire grow. But this time it's different , it's my first run using Autopots, organic soil, and a 50% Coco, 25% Perlit, 25% Worm medium. I honestly underestimated the growth potential, below is a pic showing how my grows usually looked before. Right now, I'm at around 60-70% RH, mainly thanks to the Autopot/fabric pot setup. I'm running one Spider Farmer oscillating fan at the top, a smaller fan at the bottom, and a large exhaust fan (around 700 m³/h) currently dialed down to 200–300 m³/h. The tent is 80x80x180 cm.

What model light is that? Is it the Lumatek ATS200?

GrowFelixBot · May 5, 2025

Delps8 said:
What model light is that? Is it the Lumatek ATS200?

Thanks for your time, I’ve updated the top post with all the info!

FmSwayze · May 5, 2025

That's a pretty good 1st round of pruning and Defoliation. You could have been more aggressive but I think you got what you were looking for. I would be sure to continue selectively defoilating as you go and hit them again week 5. Good luck, keep us posted with your progress.

Bud man 43 · May 5, 2025

Looks good

cat shit · May 5, 2025

GrowFelixBot said:
Hey guys, need some opinions. It's my first time dealing with such a dense SCROG, so I'm looking for some defoliation advice. What do you think, is it enough? Thanks for the advice! (Plant Height: Pot-Top 80cm)

Edit:
Light: Lumatek ATS 200W Pro
Box: 80x80x180 cm
Exhaust: Prima Klima EC TC 125 (680 m³/h) dialed down to 200 m³/h
Fan Top: Spider Farmer oscillating fan
Fan Bottom: Smaller Amazon fan
Pot: 4x FlexiPot / Autopot 20 L (only 15 L filled)
Water: Rainwater
Medium: 50% Canna Coco Professional, 25% Perlite, 25% Worm, 30 g dolomite lime / pot
Fertilizer (BioTabs): 3 Biotabs / pot, Startrex, Mycotrex, Bactrex, Silicium Flash, Bio PK 5-8 (flower phase top feed), Boom Boom Spray (once a week until day 16 of flower)
Seeds: 4x Barney’s Farm Mimosa x Orange Punch fem
Veg-Time: 30 days
Flower-Time: 16 days
RH: 60–70%
Temp: 26 °C
Pest Prevention: Neem Oil Spray(every 2 weeks during veg phase)

Your grow looks great. I cram my tents full and do a very minimal amount of defol, with decent airflow and a good dehu in the lung room my rh averages 45 to 55 late flower no bud rot in 3 yrs. Ill take a few here and there on a daily basis if needed.

budman111 · May 6, 2025

GrowFelixBot said:
Yo, actually I never used the schwazzing technique before, but I was thinking about it, mainly because over the past years I saw a lot of YouTube videos showing plant structures like that, where they barely had any big fan leaves left. But I'm not really sure when the best time for it is, and if it's actually that smart to remove all the fan leaves?¿

I would never grow without doing it now, it has so much benefits other than more light to bud sites, do it day 1 flower and then again day 21 flower and thats it. (photos only)

GrowFelixBot · May 6, 2025

Alright guys, thanks for all the input!
Feel free to keep posting tips, I really appreciate it.
I think I'm gonna go with something in the middle, somewhere between full schwazzing and defoliation.
I'm not too comfortable removing 100% of the big fan leaves, so probably around 50% (still kinda scary though ).
For those who are interested, here are some earlier plant photos

btw: Only 5 days between the last two pics and the current height!

deej2 · May 6, 2025

Scrog?

GrowFelixBot · May 11, 2025

Day 21 Update: Yo yo yoo, for those who are interested, the plants are still getting bigger and bigger! They already have some nice nug development, but they stretched another 30 cm.
They’re now 110 cm tall, taking up all the space near my two top fans
So today I decided to lollipop about 20–30 cm from the bottom, removed everything with small bud growth, and defoliated a lot of inner leaves that were blocking light from reaching the lower nodes of the top/main stems.
I think for the next grow, I’ll need a 200 cm+ tent instead of just 180 cm height.

GrowFelixBot · Wednesday at 3:19 AM

Day 38 Update: Hey what’s up :3
Some buds have almost reached the light and developed some high temperature problems. So I had to pull the light as close as possible to the top of the tent but it is still way too close :c
The buds look great though. There are no signs of overfeeding or underfeeding everything is perfect
Except as I said there is not enough space at the top and I should have removed more lower buds since quite a few popcorn buds have formed there But to avoid stress which I already had enough of I am just going to leave them be for now.

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