Look out superthrive - Organic Competition

grapeoptimo said:

HAHA thats great! As for nutes in the aero i'm running RO water ph to 6.5 which is maybe a lil high but i wanna get your opinion. i put a super tiny amount of clone powder in it as well and about a half cup of premixed BMO water i use for there older sisters!

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The optimal pH for cloning according to highly educated agri-brains is 6.3 Most say 6 to 7.
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My best results have been at 6.7 and 6. Your right where you need to be. The (mixed) BMO Super Plant Tonic will provide a definite advantage - those little mychorizzal fungi will aid in feeding the clones, & increasing the rootball promptly. The worm castings in BMO (highly soluble nitrogen & gentle) are perfect for feeding clones. In a few days you will see little white fungi strands - free floating about. Don't worry about them or remove them - they are benefical.
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When your clones are ready to move, take the extra, free floating white fungi strands and mix them in soil, then cover. Or drop a tablespoon full in the bottom of you Hempy Pots. They will multiple, bond with your plants roots & boost their health & vigor - off the scale.
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If you gently dehydrate (low heat 80 degrees & under) the left over fungi (must be done in the dark), you can keep them for about one month. They must be keep in a cool, dark environment; below 80 degrees but above 55 degrees. They make for a great seed soak. Every seed I have every soaked in a tablespoon of those fungi with about 8 ounces of chlorine free water -have popped. 100 % sucess rate; even with fresh seeds. But of course I don't try to germinate dried out, cracked, super old or super shitty seeds. So, I guess I should say 100 % sucess with decent seeds. Hope this helps..
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BMO SPT Rocks..... Keep it Real...Organic....

littlebat said:

WOOOO Ozark Mountain hippies in NW Arkansas! That's where I'm from originally! It's a beautiful place. A lot of people went to the mountains to dodge the draft during Vietnam and that's why there are so many hippies there.

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The community that makes BMO lives in north central, between Mtn. Home & Mtn. View, Arkansas. Yes, no shortage of Peace Loving Folks around there. Their real decent people. They appreciate everything, want for nothing & are honest. Plus, it's hard to find anyone who can grow better than them. They know how to make things grow organically.
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Ohsogreen said:

Yes.. just go on Ebay and search for Organic Fertilizer or Organic Plant Tonic. I saw seven or eight of them for sale, a few days ago. I was told by the Ebay Seller, Blue Mountain Organics is a small company / community of peace loving Hippies, living in the Ozarks in Arkansas. Seems they have been selling this stuff locally for about five years. The Organic Gardening crowd swears by it. I have gotten excellant results with it. They sell the stuff at a local farmer's / flea market there. They do not have a store or website. The only make up a big batch every 3 months. So, the stuff Ebay is probably a fresh batch. It sells pretty fast. I'll probably buy one myself, later this week.

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I just bought some of that stuff from Ebay...It only cost 10.50 thats with shipping...Hope it works better than superthrive.

dessbarrett... You'll never go back to Superthrive after using BMO Super Plant Tonic. Their new bottles (8 oz) make as much as the pint bottle, they used to sell (8-16 gallons) I just got one yesterday. It has 10 ounces in it. The seller says, BMO fills up the mail order bottles, with two extra ounces, as a bonus. So, that makes (10-20) gallons, even better.
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This stuff is great. I have grown Skunks, AK-47, Lowryder & Lowryder 2 with it. I used it on only half each time, the first few grows. The treated plants did better every time. Their vigor was improved, they were bushier & yielded more.
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Just, remember to go easy on your fertilizers after applying BMO. Because the rootball just explodes, in a matter of days. Making it very efficent at sucking up what is thrown at it; plus it breaks down everything in your grow medium - adding to what your plants are getting. So, throw less at them or you will end up overfertilizing. I learned that the hard way, the first time I grew with it. I almost killed a couple of Skunks with kindness (overfertilization).
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Hope this helps.. Keep it Real ... Organic.....

you seem to know soo much about this stuff! is it ok to take cuttings less than a week after flowering has been induced?

oh and super thrive can super suck my **** i dont think it was beneficial to my plants in any way

grapeoptimo said:

you seem to know soo much about this stuff! is it ok to take cuttings less than a week after flowering has been induced?

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Well Thank You.. I have spent many years studing & practicing Weedology. The answer to that quesiton, in a nut shell. No - the failure rate is much higher after flowering is initiated, for cloning. Not Advised.
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If, cloning is the road your going to travel down. Establish a Mother Plant - keep her under 14 + hours of light & well feed - only grow (higher N) nutrients. I know a fellow brother of the leaf, who has a Mother Plant that has been giving him clones for over 15 months now. I have heard it said - 24 months is possible. That's allot of clones.
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The Waiting is the Hardest Part..... Good Song Lyric ... So, true with Mary.....
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If somone tells you to throw your plants back under a longer light schedule. So, you can cut clones from them; Don't Do It. Keep going forward, not back....
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Note: It is possible to produce some decent bud & seeds, if you wait till the 3rd week of flowering, then pollenate only one bud site. Make it a lower bud site. At harvest time, clip the upper buds & leave the pollenated bud site on for an extra week - to ensure your seeds fully develope.
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well i took 3 clones after flowering so we'll see what happens with them, im gonna go put more powder in it!

grapeoptimo said:

well i took 3 clones after flowering so we'll see what happens with them, im gonna go put more powder in it!

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I wouldn't do that. Too much of that IBA (synthetic hormone) cloning powder & your clones will not root. You can have too much of that stuff & more is not better. Mix a 1/4 strength BMO & add - much safer...

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I wouldn't do that. Too much of that IBA (synthetic hormone) cloning powder & your clones will not root. You can have too much of that stuff & more is not better. Mix a 1/4 strength BMO & add - much safer...

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that explains a lot, thanks i have been trying to get cutting of my fruit trees and have not been successful yet, thanks for the tip and thanks for teaching me how to spell

brendon420 said:

that explains a lot, thanks i have been trying to get cutting of my fruit trees and have not been successful yet, thanks for the tip and thanks for teaching me how to spell

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Glad I can help. Don't tell anyone, but I can't really spell either. I just try to use the spell check often. LOL..
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Sorry for the remark the other day... I was not myself....
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+rep for being a gentleman about it.
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typos can get you into trouble in life, i understand, you can tell when i am stoned because my grammatical efforts/knowledge turn off. lol

do you have a journal?

Ohsogreen said:

dessbarrett... You'll never go back to Superthrive after using BMO Super Plant Tonic. Their new bottles (8 oz) make as much as the pint bottle, they used to sell (8-16 gallons) I just got one yesterday. It has 10 ounces in it. The seller says, BMO fills up the mail order bottles, with two extra ounces, as a bonus. So, that makes (10-20) gallons, even better.
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This stuff is great. I have grown Skunks, AK-47, Lowryder & Lowryder 2 with it. I used it on only half each time, the first few grows. The treated plants did better every time. Their vigor was improved, they were bushier & yielded more.
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Just, remember to go easy on your fertilizers after applying BMO. Because the rootball just explodes, in a matter of days. Making it very efficent at sucking up what is thrown at it; plus it breaks down everything in your grow medium - adding to what your plants are getting. So, throw less at them or you will end up overfertilizing. I learned that the hard way, the first time I grew with it. I almost killed a couple of Skunks with kindness (overfertilization).
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Hope this helps.. Keep it Real ... Organic.....

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Thanks that helps alot...Im also going to buy there Bat Guano and Worm Casting too...Can you mix them together?

RE: Ozark Mtn hippies -- NW AR is a strange place. The U of A is there, and so is this awesome little hippie artsy town called Eureka Springs, so it's a relatively cultured place. But then it's still the Bible Belt, and the U of A is a big Greek school, so you have your young Republican contingent. Right by the university there's a little tie-dye store that's been there for years and years, so you see a lot of frat/sorority kids wearing tie-dyed shirts with their letters on them. At this same store, they sell a lot of Grateful Dead stuff (of course), and it's like the sorority girls don't know what it means and they just like the dancing bears, so they buy it. When I last lived there, it was during the first Clinton election. One day I pulled up at a stop light behind a jeep full of sorority girls, and the chick had two bumper stickers. One was Grateful Dead bears and the other said "Don't blame me, I voted for Bush." That, as far as I'm concerned, is pretty much the height of Not Getting It.

hahahaha are you serious that is great

deesbarrett said:

Thanks that helps alot...Im also going to buy there Bat Guano and Worm Casting too...Can you mix them together?

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Yes. You can still use any soil amendment or fertilizer with BMO. Just use less of it. Because Super Plant Tonic is very efficient at making the nutrients in the soil available to your plant(s). Its the benefical fungi in it, that makes it all happen. Mycorrhiza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia So, start low & build up over a few weeks. To avoid overfertilizing.
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With the worm castings, the possibility of over fertilizing does not really exsist. Use normal amounts like 10 - 20 percent mixed in with soil by volume or 4-6 tablespoons of castings to a gallon of (unchlorinated) water for a starting or maintenance tea.
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Keep it Real...Organic

brendon420 said:

do you have a journal?

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No. Not yet. I will be starting one on July 11th for a Lowryder 2 grow.. From " seed to success " on this site.
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LittleBat Re: Ozark Mountain Hippies & Other Not So Normal People

Back in 1997, I got pulled over by a black, unmarked Camaro SS (police car) - driven by what looked like a Hell's Angel, in Madison County, Arkansas. The guy driving, much to my suprize, was the Sheriff of Madison County - His Name - Ralph Baker. He chewed my *ss for driving too fast & told me he could smell the strong odor of MJ in my ride. I thought, I'm screwed. Next, he asked " Is it any good ?". I laughed & said " Yeah, Real Good ". He said "We will see". He then told me to give him some. This was just too Crazy for me. I asked " How Much ? " He said " At least a quarter". I forked it over, he smelled it, put it in his pocket and told me to slow down or I'd end up dead on these curvie roads. He then drove away & I sat there - wondering if I was in the Twilight Zone.
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I'm glad he was easy going, cause I only had about 3 pounds in the car. Yeah, I know what your thinking - why were you speeding. The answer - driving to AC/DC "Back in Black" - got carried away. Now, I listen to Country when making special trips, to avoid happy, heavy feet.
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About a year later, I found out that Sheriff was a Serious Outlaw - they even wrote a book about him called " When Money Grew On Trees " So, Yes I know what you mean - definitely a different kind of place & people.
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How do I use the Bat Guano And Worm Casting ON a Plant that is Almost 3 months old and in the pot she is going to finish in?

And what do you mean about Making a Tea with the Casting??