looking to start another grow op

Hi-
let me first explain my situation.

I am a student at a university in AZ. I currently have a good grow in Colorado paying for my school. (i have my card and everything)

I fly out once a month and go clip and get half the profit that pays for my living/school/expenses.

However, in November AZ is voting for medicinal as well and I don't have enough to buy a home.

In AZ there aren't basements but im looking to start a grow.
I don't have enough money to buy a house but i have ~ 10k to buy supplies to get this going, so I'm trying to rent.

My question is: if I were to rent I would have to grow in bedrooms, and this house really wouldn't be lived in. How do I grow without the chance of mold?

and 2nd question is, being that i'm a renter, after my lease is up, could the landlord come back to me and make me pay for the damages? would this be a legal issue or could i deny all allegations?


Any answers would be awesome, Thanks and keep it going!

Not sure if it is possible to grow without mold in open spaces such as a room. The room would have to be air tight so to speak to prevent the spread of mold through moisture. There has been a ton of large scale grow ops where mold pretty much destroyed the house in which the house could not be saved.

I do know for sure though that liability damages have been sought after and awarded in many cases now giving precedence to any party seeking compensation for damages caused by a grow op in the U.S.A. . As the dwelling would be in your name you would be responsible for any damages incurred while it is in your name, most landlords have clauses stipulating no subletting which would be your only way out so to speak and even then you would still be liable for the damages and could have to pay in the long run.

My advise.... rent a place in the country and build a green house... only way to ensure you can't get sued for damages and keep nosy neighbors from watching your every move.

Cheers,
BR.

mold isn't really an issue in arizona. I live just next door in the same climate and the only mold I have ever seen is where there has been a consistent leak leading to standing water which was left for over a year, and in all cases the water damage was more of a concern than the mold. Under normal circumstances mold just isn't much of an issue in the desert. Just don't cut anything up, don't do any damage (normal tenant stuff, just don't do anything a normal landlord would be unhappy about). put down tarps or get tubs to prevent any water damage. Take the normal precautions and you should be just fine.

I figured it wouldn't be as much of a problem in arizona im just trying to not screw over a landlord on my capital gains

I was thinking about making tables, what about putting holes in the ceiling to attach lights?

heres a pic of what i got going now, do you think this would be okay?

I've hung lights in apartments, but they were holes small enough to putty and put a dab of paint over. That looks like it might be some decent weight. In an apartment I would think about a 2x4 frame to suspend things from. As long as you weren't cutting holes for vents, and you suspended your infrastructure from a frame, I think you could easily have a similar setup without leaving anything a landlord would care about. The only concern I might have is electricity, but if you don't feel good about letting a landlord know you plan to grow you could tell them you run some servers that take a lot of juice, or keep aquatic plants, or any number of other things that draw a lot of power.

oh and you might want to go with actual tarp, or better would be tubs. You wouldn't want to get sued over water damage

ohhh servers thats good.

im gunna say that :]

thanks for the input!

Bottom line is, if you're going to use/rent someone else's house, take good care of it. You can do a nice grow op without destroying the house and being able to bring it back to what it was before. As far as lights, they are no more heavy than a hanging plant. Buy ceiling hooks that don't require large holes (the butterfly wing type) or better yet, find the ceiling rafters and just use the wood screw hooks that make smaller holes. And when you move out, use "DAP" to fill in the holes. You won't even need to paint over the sealant. Put tarps on the carpets and if you drill a hole in the wall, patch it. Don't screw the house owner cause if you do, you deserve to have him come after you. I know I would. Enjoy the grow.

Some of the larger tents may be an answer for you they will help keep the house clean and avoid water spills and it saves you from having to poly a room. You will still need to deal with ventilation to get the air outside but tent will help with minimal damage.

http://www.secretjardin.eu/index/catalogue/objet-20/lang-en

The landlord and you should be on the same page. Tell him what you are doing and guarantee the house will be in the same condition as you received it. If your margins can't cover rent and repairs, then it does not make business sense.

FWIW mold will be the least of your problems in AZ, it's the heat that will kill you.

DawgMountain said:

Bottom line is, if you're going to use/rent someone else's house, take good care of it. You can do a nice grow op without destroying the house and being able to bring it back to what it was before. As far as lights, they are no more heavy than a hanging plant. Buy ceiling hooks that don't require large holes (the butterfly wing type) or better yet, find the ceiling rafters and just use the wood screw hooks that make smaller holes. And when you move out, use "DAP" to fill in the holes. You won't even need to paint over the sealant. Put tarps on the carpets and if you drill a hole in the wall, patch it. Don't screw the house owner cause if you do, you deserve to have him come after you. I know I would. Enjoy the grow.

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I have those same hoods, they are around 15 lbs each. You get 6+ of them, plus ductwork, and it also looks like he has some sort of frame built out of aluminum (they almost look like I beams ). And I dunno, I personally wouldn't want to patch up the hole left from the size of bolt I would feel comfortable with using in that sort of setup. I guess he could minimize it, but if he wanted it closer to the picture then imo I would avoid drilling and filling and build a frame

building a frame. i like it.


that picture is of my op in colorado but its done in a crawl space.. they dont exist in arizona so i have to work with what i got.

does any1 know of a RIU user that has a frame in some pictures that i could look at?

Imma be heading to AZ for a few months, I have some old friends over there I haven't seen in ages. I'm looking for some trim work while i'm there and have alot of experience with the green. I might be able to help ya out in finding a place out there. Just get back at me amigo. Hit me up on facebook on a message or whateves. facebook.com/Reppinda603