Looks like nitrogen rich/cal-mag?

Yzfirecat · May 8, 2017

OK I got a pineapple chunk that has inward curling tips very green sometimes looks shiney. Notice the leaves drooping and a couple brown spots I'll post pics. I keep all 8 of my plants in the same closet at 75-80 degrees and 60-70 RH. I'm still pretty new and can't put my finger on it. I know she may be over watered a tad. Only plant showing this. 24days old.

kratos015 · May 9, 2017

Do your pots have a gap between them and the floor? You want a little gap between the pot and the floor so that your pots aren't sitting in the runoff, otherwise the water won't be able to runoff as efficiently and as a result the roots on the bottom of your pot could be starting to suffocate.

I am also noticing the "claw" that's associated with nitrogen toxicity, but it doesn't look too severe and I'd say that things are looking pretty damn good for the most part. Just make sure your pots aren't sitting in the runoff and maybe lay off the nutes for the next couple of waterings and they should be just fine. You caught it at just the right time, the plants don't really even look too stressed for the time being but the signs are there.

Lola Grows · May 9, 2017

Yzfirecat said:
OK I got a pineapple chunk that has inward curling tips very green sometimes looks shiney. Notice the leaves drooping and a couple brown spots I'll post pics. I keep all 8 of my plants in the same closet at 75-80 degrees and 60-70 RH. I'm still pretty new and can't put my finger on it. I know she may be over watered a tad. Only plant showing this. 24days old.

I think it's the beginning of a phosphorus or calcium deficiency. The curling comes from the (P) deficiency working it's way inward.If the leaves are getting dull blue & lowers yellowing it's definitely (P).
Calcium would look similar just without the curling ( I think) but I'd read up on those two.

Yzfirecat · May 9, 2017

kratos015 said:
Do your pots have a gap between them and the floor? You want a little gap between the pot and the floor so that your pots aren't sitting in the runoff, otherwise the water won't be able to runoff as efficiently and as a result the roots on the bottom of your pot could be starting to suffocate.

I am also noticing the "claw" that's associated with nitrogen toxicity, but it doesn't look too severe and I'd say that things are looking pretty damn good for the most part. Just make sure your pots aren't sitting in the runoff and maybe lay off the nutes for the next couple of waterings and they should be just fine. You caught it at just the right time, the plants don't really even look too stressed for the time being but the signs are there.

Yea they have room to breath. I make sure my pots stop dripping before they go back in the closet. They never had nuits yet the only thing I gave them was Recharge if you've heard of it. I'll keep an close eye on her. Hopefully it doesn't get worse. There in foxfarm ocean forest with extra castings.

Cx2H · May 9, 2017

Yzfirecat said:
Yea they have room to breath. I make sure my pots stop dripping before they go back in the closet. They never had nuits yet the only thing I gave them was Recharge if you've heard of it. I'll keep an close eye on her. Hopefully it doesn't get worse. There in foxfarm ocean forest with extra castings.

Greetings, not feeding? Fox farm is getting depleted. Recharge is great but it's not plant food, just makes hungry soil.

I see a possible P def creeping in. Need some mg as well.

Short answer feed it.

That loaded soil gets people in def trouble quick.

IMO of course.

Yzfirecat · May 9, 2017

Cx2H said:
Greetings, not feeding? Fox farm is getting depleted. Recharge is great but it's not plant food, just makes hungry soil.

I see a possible P def creeping in. Need some mg as well.

Short answer feed it.

That loaded soil gets people in def trouble quick.

IMO of course.

Thanks for the input. I'm going to get some Botanica cal mag and something with some P to try and reverse this.

Yzfirecat · May 9, 2017

Cx2H said:
Greetings, not feeding? Fox farm is getting depleted. Recharge is great but it's not plant food, just makes hungry soil.

I see a possible P def creeping in. Need some mg as well.

Short answer feed it.

That loaded soil gets people in def trouble quick.

IMO of course.

I thought the purpose of recharge was to introduce microbes and fungi into the soil. Which eats the soil and in return feeds your plants and creates a living soil. Should I stop with the recharge?

Cx2H · May 9, 2017

Yzfirecat said:
I thought the purpose of recharge was to introduce microbes and fungi into the soil. Which eats the soil and in return feeds your plants and creates a living soil. Should I stop with the recharge?

Shortest answer.
You need to feed the soil(microbiology) organic matter so it can feed the plant slowly or do synthetics that feed the plant immediately and salts the microbiology.

Either way you need a couple more tools in the toolbox to get you to the finish line. :-)

ANC · May 9, 2017

It takes a bigger toolbox to do in soil what you can do with a 2 or 3 part hydro mix.

Yzfirecat · May 9, 2017

ANC said:
It takes a bigger toolbox to do in soil what you can do with a 2 or 3 part hydro mix.

Yea I'm building up my tool box. This is my first real grow so I'm working on it. I appreciate all the help and comments guys thanks.

kratos015 · May 9, 2017

Yzfirecat said:
I thought the purpose of recharge was to introduce microbes and fungi into the soil. Which eats the soil and in return feeds your plants and creates a living soil. Should I stop with the recharge?

Yeah that's dead on. That's what he meant by it not being food and making for hungry soil. All recharge is is a group of different microbes that can be used to reinoculate your soil. Not really any reason to stop using the stuff really, not really a way that you can overdo it or anything either as the microbes do a great job of regulating their population all on their own

Yzfirecat · May 9, 2017

kratos015 said:
Yeah that's dead on. That's what he meant by it not being food and making for hungry soil. All recharge is is a group of different microbes that can be used to reinoculate your soil. Not really any reason to stop using the stuff really, not really a way that you can overdo it or anything either as the microbes do a great job of regulating their population all on their own

OK gotcha thanks. 1 question do I need to keep the soil moist for the microbs survive. I really let mine dry out between waterings. Or does it not matter?

kratos015 · May 9, 2017

Yzfirecat said:
OK gotcha thanks. 1 question do I need to keep the soil moist for the microbs survive. I really let mine dry out between waterings. Or does it not matter?

Things should be kept moist for sure as the microbes require both water and oxygen to stay alive. If you let things get too dry then you run the risk of your microbes going dormant or even dying off, too wet and they'll suffocate along with your roots. I'm currently vegging in 2 gallon pots and I water every 2 days or so on average. However much it takes to keep things moist. Think of your soil as a worm bin or a compost pile, you want things moist but not saturated.

HTH

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