Low Stress Training (LST) Guide

SoCalCraw · Feb 1, 2017

I definitely see what they're talking about when they say auxins come into play, I topped a Critical mass clone 2 weeks into flower and have been using intense LST. You can just see the branches start to pull up within hours and see the bulk of the plant really come out. Here's a pic of the CM, I just tied her down after having to cut the bucket since I think I planted it too low (water wasn't ditching as fast as I wanted it to) so hopefully that helps! You can see the lush green LSTing will bring you

She's exactly 1 month from being planted from peat cloning pods into sunshine #4

Bosgrower · Mar 7, 2017

At 35 days from seed and a week from topping at the 3rd node, these Blue Widows seem healthy but so compact that I'm not sure I can start LST until there's more spacing. Am I reading this right?

New to growing so any advice would be welcome.

Soil grow, 2x4x5 tent, 2 Quantum boards @ 1050ma at 30", 1 gal pots, plants are 5" tall.
For complete details
https://growdiaries.com/diaries/994-dinafem-blue-widow-1st-grow

visajoe1 · Mar 11, 2017

Bosgrower said:
At 35 days from seed and a week from topping at the 3rd node, these Blue Widows seem healthy but so compact that I'm not sure I can start LST until there's more spacing. Am I reading this right?

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New to growing so any advice would be welcome.

Soil grow, 2x4x5 tent, 2 Quantum boards @ 1050ma at 30", 1 gal pots, plants are 5" tall.
For complete details
https://growdiaries.com/diaries/994-dinafem-blue-widow-1st-grow

you're right. give it a few more days to a week at least. what is your goal with them? top/lst only? scrog?

Bosgrower · Mar 11, 2017

visajoe1 said:
you're right. give it a few more days to a week at least. what is your goal with them? top/lst only? scrog?

Dinafem recommends topping and scrog ... but unless these beauties stretch a bit I may have to use mainlining. Just uppotted to 3 gal ... there are more roots than plant so maybe that's where all the energy has gone. Big mass of fine feeder roots with no visible tap.
There's really no info on these in early veg so it's making this a challenging first grow

visajoe1 · Mar 11, 2017

Bosgrower said:
Dinafem recommends topping and scrog ... but unless these beauties stretch a bit I may have to use mainlining. Just uppotted to 3 gal ... there are more roots than plant so maybe that's where all the energy has gone. Big mass of fine feeder roots with no visible tap.
There's really no info on these in early veg so it's making this a challenging first grow

you're fine. you have great light, good medium/pot size, temp/rh are good. I'm assuming you have a fan in the tent? You need constant air circulation. Lots of roots is good. Dont over think it. Just focus on your feeding and watering schedule. you can probly flip in 2-4 weeks depending on how large you want it

Bosgrower · Mar 11, 2017

visajoe1 said:
you're fine. you have great light, good medium/pot size, temp/rh are good. I'm assuming you have a fan in the tent? You need constant air circulation. Lots of roots is good. Dont over think it. Just focus on your feeding and watering schedule. you can probly flip in 2-4 weeks depending on how large you want it

Thanks !!! Its difficult to get feedback on early grow issues ... if and when I learn what I'm doing I'll be sure to pay it forward

tikdo · Mar 23, 2017

my first try to lst , on this chocolate skunk auto flower strain

Bosgrower · Mar 24, 2017

visajoe1 said:
you're fine. you have great light, good medium/pot size, temp/rh are good. I'm assuming you have a fan in the tent? You need constant air circulation. Lots of roots is good. Dont over think it. Just focus on your feeding and watering schedule. you can probly flip in 2-4 weeks depending on how large you want it

Just thought I'd post this follow up. Day 49 from seed ... they're still "vertically challenged" but getting bushy and developing lots of tops. At this rate it looks like at least 9 weeks in veg to get enough vertical growth to take clones before flipping.

Bosgrower · Apr 20, 2017

I'm in the second week of flower and I've got close to 2 dozen pre-flowering tops on each of the plants. I had originally planned on a scrog but at this point I can't see the need for any more tops ... LST on these Blue Widows has been extraordinary. Any thoughts on my decision would be appreciated.

Bosgrower · Apr 21, 2017

PS ... I evicted the tomatoes today because I needed the room to keep the plants from spreading into each other this early in stretch

VanIsleJay · May 1, 2017

This is a mother I've been training about 8 months, just did a big trim and round of clones so she's extremely sparse at the moment

mjinc · May 19, 2017

VanIsleJay said:
This is a mother I've been training about 8 months, just did a big trim and round of clones so she's extremely sparse at the moment

How many clones do you get off at a time?

VanIsleJay · May 19, 2017

mjinc said:
How many clones do you get off at a time?

30-40 per month sometimes month and a half depending on flower room demands.

I started her from seed about this time last year.

She's not usually this sparse... I has just cleansed up all the lower leaves as they don't get light, and tied her off to some bamboo to promote more growth sites.

mjinc · May 20, 2017

VanIsleJay said:
30-40 per month sometimes month and a half depending on flower room demands.

I started her from seed about this time last year.

She's not usually this sparse... I has just cleansed up all the lower leaves as they don't get light, and tied her off to some bamboo to promote more growth sites.

Thanks for that! Do you just take what you need? If you were to max it out without hurting the plant, how many do you think you could get off it? I was just wondering as I watch some of the clone stores and they are getting 100's a month off their mothers

Willofthepeople · May 20, 2017

Still working on it, but so far I've learned a lot from this thread.

I had a question about using wires and open paperclips to stake branches down on a 1 month old plant in a 3 gallon pot.

I'm putting all these stab holes several inches into the soil every time I use another paperclip. Does this have a negative impact on the roots? I mean I must be breaking roots and root hairs with every jab?

Are plant ties used above the soil a preferred method for training?

Bosgrower · May 20, 2017

If you have fabric pots large safety pins and pipe cleaners do the trick

VanIsleJay · May 23, 2017

mjinc said:
Thanks for that! Do you just take what you need? If you were to max it out without hurting the plant, how many do you think you could get off it? I was just wondering as I watch some of the clone stores and they are getting 100's a month off their mothers

Yah take what I need and sometimes just trim back to keep her tame as I don't need 100 cuttings a month.... it's only under two t5s right now and gets ambient lights from my 315CID light. If I had her under a stronger light I don't see a problem with 100 plus a month but after a while you should give her a rest, or have another strain or mother to switch to.

HamBone? · Jun 5, 2017

LST is so easy to do and its fun to watch. Ill never grow tall again...

farmerzooticals · Jul 7, 2017

Some Dairy Queen that I'm LSTing the crap out of cause she just loves it. Can't wait to flip her

L30nPh3lps · Jul 31, 2017

Is this overdoing it?

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