Low Stress Training (LST) Guide

SoCalCraw

SoCalCraw

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I definitely see what they're talking about when they say auxins come into play, I topped a Critical mass clone 2 weeks into flower and have been using intense LST. You can just see the branches start to pull up within hours and see the bulk of the plant really come out. Here's a pic of the CM, I just tied her down after having to cut the bucket since I think I planted it too low (water wasn't ditching as fast as I wanted it to) so hopefully that helps! You can see the lush green LSTing will bring you :)

She's exactly 1 month from being planted from peat cloning pods into sunshine #4
 

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Bosgrower

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At 35 days from seed and a week from topping at the 3rd node, these Blue Widows seem healthy but so compact that I'm not sure I can start LST until there's more spacing. Am I reading this right?

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New to growing so any advice would be welcome.

Soil grow, 2x4x5 tent, 2 Quantum boards @ 1050ma at 30", 1 gal pots, plants are 5" tall.
For complete details
https://growdiaries.com/diaries/994-dinafem-blue-widow-1st-grow
 
visajoe1

visajoe1

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Bosgrower said:
At 35 days from seed and a week from topping at the 3rd node, these Blue Widows seem healthy but so compact that I'm not sure I can start LST until there's more spacing. Am I reading this right?

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New to growing so any advice would be welcome.

Soil grow, 2x4x5 tent, 2 Quantum boards @ 1050ma at 30", 1 gal pots, plants are 5" tall.
For complete details
https://growdiaries.com/diaries/994-dinafem-blue-widow-1st-grow
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you're right. give it a few more days to a week at least. what is your goal with them? top/lst only? scrog?
 
Bosgrower

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visajoe1 said:
you're right. give it a few more days to a week at least. what is your goal with them? top/lst only? scrog?
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Dinafem recommends topping and scrog ... but unless these beauties stretch a bit I may have to use mainlining. Just uppotted to 3 gal ... there are more roots than plant so maybe that's where all the energy has gone. Big mass of fine feeder roots with no visible tap.
There's really no info on these in early veg so it's making this a challenging first grow
 
visajoe1

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Bosgrower said:
Dinafem recommends topping and scrog ... but unless these beauties stretch a bit I may have to use mainlining. Just uppotted to 3 gal ... there are more roots than plant so maybe that's where all the energy has gone. Big mass of fine feeder roots with no visible tap.
There's really no info on these in early veg so it's making this a challenging first grow
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you're fine. you have great light, good medium/pot size, temp/rh are good. I'm assuming you have a fan in the tent? You need constant air circulation. Lots of roots is good. Dont over think it. Just focus on your feeding and watering schedule. you can probly flip in 2-4 weeks depending on how large you want it
 
Bosgrower

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visajoe1 said:
you're fine. you have great light, good medium/pot size, temp/rh are good. I'm assuming you have a fan in the tent? You need constant air circulation. Lots of roots is good. Dont over think it. Just focus on your feeding and watering schedule. you can probly flip in 2-4 weeks depending on how large you want it
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Thanks !!! Its difficult to get feedback on early grow issues ... if and when I learn what I'm doing I'll be sure to pay it forward
 
Bosgrower

Bosgrower

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visajoe1 said:
you're fine. you have great light, good medium/pot size, temp/rh are good. I'm assuming you have a fan in the tent? You need constant air circulation. Lots of roots is good. Dont over think it. Just focus on your feeding and watering schedule. you can probly flip in 2-4 weeks depending on how large you want it
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Just thought I'd post this follow up. Day 49 from seed ... they're still "vertically challenged" but getting bushy and developing lots of tops. At this rate it looks like at least 9 weeks in veg to get enough vertical growth to take clones before flipping.

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Bosgrower

Bosgrower

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I'm in the second week of flower and I've got close to 2 dozen pre-flowering tops on each of the plants. I had originally planned on a scrog but at this point I can't see the need for any more tops ... LST on these Blue Widows has been extraordinary. Any thoughts on my decision would be appreciated.

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Bosgrower

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PS ... I evicted the tomatoes today because I needed the room to keep the plants from spreading into each other this early in stretch
 
VanIsleJay

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mjinc said:
How many clones do you get off at a time?
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30-40 per month sometimes month and a half depending on flower room demands.

I started her from seed about this time last year.

She's not usually this sparse... I has just cleansed up all the lower leaves as they don't get light, and tied her off to some bamboo to promote more growth sites.
 

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mjinc

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VanIsleJay said:
30-40 per month sometimes month and a half depending on flower room demands.

I started her from seed about this time last year.

She's not usually this sparse... I has just cleansed up all the lower leaves as they don't get light, and tied her off to some bamboo to promote more growth sites.
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Thanks for that! Do you just take what you need? If you were to max it out without hurting the plant, how many do you think you could get off it? I was just wondering as I watch some of the clone stores and they are getting 100's a month off their mothers
 
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Still working on it, but so far I've learned a lot from this thread.

I had a question about using wires and open paperclips to stake branches down on a 1 month old plant in a 3 gallon pot.

I'm putting all these stab holes several inches into the soil every time I use another paperclip. Does this have a negative impact on the roots? I mean I must be breaking roots and root hairs with every jab?

Are plant ties used above the soil a preferred method for training?
 
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VanIsleJay

VanIsleJay

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mjinc said:
Thanks for that! Do you just take what you need? If you were to max it out without hurting the plant, how many do you think you could get off it? I was just wondering as I watch some of the clone stores and they are getting 100's a month off their mothers
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Yah take what I need and sometimes just trim back to keep her tame as I don't need 100 cuttings a month.... it's only under two t5s right now and gets ambient lights from my 315CID light. If I had her under a stronger light I don't see a problem with 100 plus a month but after a while you should give her a rest, or have another strain or mother to switch to.
 
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