lower tuition for illegals

cannabineer said:

But here's the thing. The statement from you that drew me in was "Limiting sex is not bad."

There it is, declarative and unqualified. You assume the duty of defending it as stated. No revisions, qualifications, circumscriptions. Don't nudge the goalposts when you think we're not looking. I was hoping for something like a debate by the rules of reason. You've established the premise, and i have been questioning it. You can't just change what you're saying. you have to prevail by the rules of debate, or you are duty-bound to expressly and formally retract, yes, to declare that you weren't right.
So let's have at it then. I challenge your bold claim, and ask that you back it up with an acceptable source, one not drawing at its core upon "revealed truth", which i hold to be neither. cn

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silasraven said:

your making this way too complex for something so simple. sex before marriage isnt for me, was just that. i dont need to back that statement up with anything because it doesnt need it. your wanting a why and a debating of why sex before marriage blah. i dont know how to debating sex before marriage isnt for me. i had sex with a women i wasnt in a relationship with, it didnt stimulate me. i had a relationship without sex and we pushed the boundries of what we said we thought was exceptable an it really blew my mind. i got more pleasure out of never going below the belt then i ever thought possible. so for me keeping sex limited is the key to opening up another world.

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Trousers said:

What about illegal aliens that have premarital sex that results in a citizen?

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minnesmoker said:

Wait... I implied that, once married, men have less sex than priests. Rational deduction would be "sick of sex" not "no sex before marriage! Oh, and this guy's right, no sex AFTER marriage, either!"

And, anti-sex dude. Seriously, you should try it. It's awesome! Seriously amazing. Like, something I could do every morning, afternoon, and night. Know what's more fun than premarital sex with a woman? Premarital sex with 2 women!

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Trousers said:

What about illegal aliens that have premarital sex that results in a citizen?

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silasraven said:

never said anything on the matter of sex after marriage, just before. its just having the limits with the relationship i had was awesome, now that i know, if get married ( not sure if its supposed to happen) then sex will be far greater than fore play.

im speaking of me. my thought on sex before marriage. i dont do it. they can do what they want. and just because someone gets a kid as a result sex and has them here doesnt make them legal cit. seca go make your own tool brown. ive stated there are more than mexicans as illegals. stop being a racist.

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Carne Seca said:

Oh please, silas. Your racist rants of the past clearly indicate why you're pissed off about this. Go blow smoke up someone else's ass. Just so you know, one of my grandfathers was born in Mexico and my mother was half Hispanic. She was also half Jicarilla Apache. I guess that makes her a Mexican in your eyes.

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silasraven said:

and just because someone gets a kid as a result sex and has them here doesnt make them legal cit.

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silasraven said:

she is half mexican and half native. so she has mexician cit and what ever lands the apache own ,she should by the indians laws be able to claim lands in america. i know some one who is half indian and he still doesnt get anything like he's supposed to. never had i had a past racist rant. and this isnt about race. Id love for you to even tell me the name of the thread. its all been about something else. never their race.

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Carne Seca said:

Really? Half Mexican? She has never been to Mexico neither has any of her family. My grandfather that was born in Mexico was on my Dad's side. My great-grandfather fled to Mexico to escape incarceration for polygamy. Yet you automatically ASSUMED that it had to be the brown side of the family. Her Hispanic father was a native New Mexican whose family have been here since the 1500's. Not racist, huh?

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Trousers said:

What about illegal aliens that have premarital sex that results in a citizen?

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thecoolman said:

We definitely need to change that law so if neither parent is a citizen neither is the child.
We have way to many anchor babies hear now.

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silasraven said:

everything i saw om ur posts seems to be leading to mexico this and that. that bean in ur eye is up ur ass. no wonder your a mormon mr smith hasnt taught you shit. uve gone on this whole time about mexicans and bs but ive never once said where the boarder was hopped from. canada,mexico, or from which boarder in cananda it was hopped concidering new foundland to be so close. im done with you

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Carne Seca said:

It was all your assumption no matter how you try to squirm out of it. And I reiterate, you are so full of shit.

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Keep backpedaling. It's just proving your blatant ignorance.

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silasraven said:

if you are one of them i dont care, if you hopped a boarder and are offended come talk to me cause all you will get a a go F%%^& urself. this is bullshit, i have to pay more than in state tuition and i cant afford it, but someone can come here and get a lower rate for their college. screw these illegals and getting more for doing it the wrong way. they should be forced to pay a higher rate just like everyone else who is out of state because they are not a citizen. im tired of paying for illigals in this country. you people have it so flipping easy. you spit out a kid and go to college for less than a usa born cit. take my jobs get on every government program and your not supposed to be here. GO THE F BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM. you dont deserve this country when you screw the legals over. dont forget there are tons of people who come to this country legally and work the 7 years to become documented citizens, they are everywhere you look, they deserve this bill not you illegals
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ion-rate-gets-final-house-ok/?test=latestnews

DENVER – The cheers of immigrant students echoed through the Colorado Capitol on Friday after the House passed a bill allowing students who entered the U.S. illegally to pay lower college tuition, a measure that will soon become law.
Students hugged and wiped away tears outside the House chamber after the vote, sending the proposal to Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper, who is expected to sign it sometime this month.
The historic vote comes a decade after the bill was first introduced. Along the way, Colorado lawmakers grappled with immigration and passed strict enforcement laws, including one to deny non-emergency benefits to illegal immigrants.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...final-house-ok/?test=latestnews#ixzz2N3EYehUA

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UncleBuck said:

so you got yourself hit by a goddamn train, dropped your million dollar medical bills onto the rest of us, you depend on our taxes for your disability check, food stamps, medicaid, and god knows what else, and you have the balls to bitch about others?

you wortless lump of shit. i wish that train would have severed the other end of your useless body.

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thecoolman said:

We definitely need to change that law so if neither parent is a citizen neither is the child.
We have way to many anchor babies hear now.

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