LowMaster Auto, Matanuska Mint Auto, Bubblicious Auto, Green-o-matic indoor

I'm sure they will, but they'll not be bushy or produce shit. I think if I was smart I'd yank the big ones and germinate all my LowBoldt and other 3 AK47's it just seems stupid to toss nice looking plants. I did contact Herbies to see what they think, that strain is not even forsale anymore on there site.

atleast try and get a refund or replacement beans from herbies. If you force flower, did it say how long the flowering cycle is?

max temp: 85.5f
min temp: 66.0f
humidity: 30% to 50%

cfls are about 1 to 2 inches from plant tops... too close, not close enough?


GOM (24 days old)

Bubblicious (10 & 11 days old)

Mint (6 days old)and......10days old

LowMaster (14 days old)

I sent Herbies an email. Nick always gets back to me. I didn't ask for anything seeing how they Replaced the LSD with LowBoldt on last order plus they did germinate and they tool them off there site. As for the Flowering, I think I saw some thing on the Joint Doctors site to try backing off lighting to 6 to 8 hrs. I'm at 8 hrs of dark starting lastnight. Hell they get to sleep longer than I do. Just not a fair world sometimes, but it always works out in the wash. Your plants are ready to take off I'd say. Just make sure the nutes and PH are right. I know thru my grow I started at 24hrs per day. When I backed off to 20/04 they took off.

no nutes yet, theres happy frog tomatoe feed in the soil, plus bat guano, compost, worm castings, and mycomaddess. Just been fed straight 7.0 water with a 1/4 dose humboldt roots and a 1/4 dose of Super B+.

Ill start feeding them when they are 3 weeks old roughly. The GOM will get fed tomorrow because they are due a first feeding.

this is the gray area with soil grows and automatics. if i dont need to feed til the 2nd or 3rd week, should i feed more for veggie or bloom, or a mix of both? because autos virtually have little to no veggie cycle.

I read a post yesterday, were this one dude gets aleast 2.0 ozs per plant. All he's using from start to finish is General Hydroponic Bloom. He says that for autos it has everything needed to grow them from start to finish. If I can I'll find it and post the link, but it said he had been doing it for a long time. Might be worth looking into, all those mutes cost alot.

yea very true. Im a big bargin hunter, even when it comes to nutrients. I have a hybrid system, so im not exactly loyal to one brand. if it was sold in a plain paper bag, as long as it works and works well. Im into organics with my grow. not 100% but mostly. Ive tried chemical ferts and they are just... unnatural .

with the balanced soil I have (compost, worm casting, happy frog tomato feed) Im going to try the "bloom formula" from the start of feeding with one of my bubblicious. These girls have had many reports of being slow bloomers and non autoflowers. I would be curious to see a few things:

1) will it make the "bloom treated" plant flower faster?
2) yield more?
3) begin flowering earlier?

I have limited space and I want a place for everyone. Not just the bubbagirls. but they are the best growers, along with the lowmaster. The mint is in slow motion, they have looked like sprouts for atleast a week now, and I got the pictures to prove it. Infact Ill try to force flower those bubagirls at 3 weeks. Maybe Ill wait til 4 weeks old. and the GOM are the after thought... i always for get about those.

I got my replacement beans from dutchbreed.com today. They sent it on friday, it got here monday morning. UK to eastern Europe. 12 reg beans... they dont do feminized. I dont know why, but its as nature intended.

Waiting to get shipping confirmation on my Il Diavolo Automatica seeds... oooooooooooooOOOOOOO I had a credit with everyonedoesit.com.

All I know is that I found the thread in grow journals and he uses it from start to finish. 2 ozs per plant with LowRyder #2 not bad. Hey I posted a photo in my journal, would you take a look. I think it is finally starting to flower?? If you do not mind please take a look before I screw up and go 12/12? Thanks. I'm going to be a little busy today. I lost a friend two days ago and I have to goto the visitation. I also have to play fishing Guide for him tomorrow and Monday thru Wend next week. Thanks! Oh yea, you asked the flowering period is 45 days, let's hope not they'll be 4 to 5 feet tall.

samples of my allstars

bubba girls are starting to go nuts 12 days old



lowmaster 16 days old (these plants stay super stocky, most under a ft)


mint (slowly but surely at 8 days old)



GOM showing pistels at 26 days old, ill get some more pics, my battery died mid camera shoot

ok so ive come to the conclusion my soil is too dense. I really am pissed at myself for over looking this simple matter. I settled with generic compost soil, instead of going heavy on the coco soil. thats why most my mint beans never mad it that far, as well as them being water logged. the dense soil isnt draining properly from some of the nursery cups.

the info i get on the mint is that its sensitive to light, and denser soil. exactly what I am running. the mint is a cross of a mother plant from dutch breed seeds. the mother plant is a kush hybrid with traits from a berry strain crossed with joint doctors lowryder #2 until it auto flowered consistantly. the blueberry traits are what make it sensitive to nutes, light, and dense soil.

its a blessing in disguise. from the begining i had germinated far more seeds than i would take to harvest.

this is what i think will mature to harvest after the masters and mint show sex and the weak plants are removed:

atleast 2 bubblegum
atleast 1 lowmaster
atleast 3 mint
2 GOM

thats 8 to maturity that i will forecast... or atleast theyll get damn close

the point is i only have enough light for just about 8 plants. and ive seen those bubblicious, they get waaaay bushy

Hey that's more than enough to last for your stay is it? Sorry I was out of pocket. I had to work for my friends brother who died so he could attend his brothers funeral. I did tell you I pulled one of my plants didn't I? I put it over at my neighbors and set her up a one plant bubblponic system. I may have to do the same with another. Herbies told me to go 12/12, so they should be fine, hell they're already too big. You should see how the plants acted by taking just one out, the AK47's doubled in size that's why I may the another out. I wish I could get all three of those large ones out and germinate my last three AK47s. I emailed my guy at Herbies and he said next order I could have five of whatever I wanted which was nice of the
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yea in the end i will have more than enough for my stay. my wife doesnt smoke much so whatever i dont use for personals, ill sell here or store it for long term while im gone. Ill always be back for visits and coming to free sweet smoke is A++++

all be known, im kinda afraid these girls will produce too ... much lol. i know that sounds weird but it might turn into a rain forest in my grow tent . and ill have to find a way to move a bunch of buds.... aww i know poor me .

we will see.

I will not feel too sorry for you. I guess that's why nobody responed to my last post in sick plants. Oh well, I think I'll have enough room now so no big deal. So I haven't seen any journal photo's, do have any more?

great journal bro been thinking of starting a balcony grow useing af ...but i see most people r doing it indoors

will be following the GOM's. I have 10 going on day 6

It's not hard, yea you'll screw up but hey that's part of learning.

Methcol360 said:

great journal bro been thinking of starting a balcony grow useing af ...but i see most people r doing it indoors

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i did a green-o-matic grow outside. they did great, just make sure they are getting as much direct sun as possible. more than 4 hours would be nice. they can handle the weather but i would only plant these ladies outdoors during april thru september. but it depends were you live.

just be ready for a smaller harvest, 7-10 grams per plant. but the smoke is lovely and potent. its a good combo of price (5 fem beans for 35$), speed (they finish in 8 to 9 weeks), taste (sweet, dank, smooth), potency (medium high, day time weed).

the more light=more yield.... not more nutrients=more yield. keep that in mind with your outdoor/indoor grow.

thankyou everyone!!!

btw the two GOM i have were stunted from birth. i had my wife germinate and start these beans before i arrived. so they sat in a window sill for the first 10 to 14 days of its life. Which made it a bit stringy, but they are bouncing back in the indoor set up, one has showed full sex and will start to flower soon, the other is days behind it im sure. please remember stunted only means that as adults they may not reach maximum yield (potential). the potency and taste will still be there with the right care. and the yield will still be enough for some early smoke while the other girls grow up. so either way you dont loose much.

i know growers that use the GOM as nice early smoke while their 12/12 strains are growing. you can have them in the garden regardless of the light schedule and they take up almost no room.

Ive never seen these GOM yield more that 15 grams per plant. just to keep that in mind. sometimes i dont care if a strain is a heavy producer or not, for me my grow is for personal use so any free smoke is good smoke. plus this is one super fun hobby!

I will always hold quality above quantity. Thats whats most important to me, it would be different if i was a commercial grower.

pictures, just some samples of the girls from yesterday.

bubblegum girls:

(14 days old)

mint:
(10 days old)

lowmaster:
(14 days, 16 days)

GOM
ill get some pics today, i forgot to shot these
(28 days old)

Ganja.gomer, I'm going to make another order of LowRyder #2 and EasyRyder. What's a good yeilding and potent grow besides AK47? Your plants are looking nice.

ive heard the oynx and Mi5 from shortstuff have bigger yields. have you looked at those super autos?

the easy ryder is a bigger producer under ideal conditions as well.