Lowrider "feminized" (not really feminized?)

I've been planning on growing a bunch of these lowrider plants, and I'm going to order all feminized (of course) seeds. I've read around that sometimes they aren't always female (more often than you'd think).. Anyone have this problem?

Ok, so the deal with autoflower plants is, in order to make it worth your time and money, you need to seed the first batch you grow to be self-sufficient and not buying seeds every couple weeks.

That being said:

subcool said:

Feminized seeds are a marketing ploy to rob you of your hard earned dollars.

From a good friend of mine

Folks will disagree with me, but I don't feel there is anything stable at all with FEM seeds.

At best, you get a breeder that knows what he/she is doing. By that, I mean you have a breeder who has a special female that has been watched and studied for a long time to know that it is stable. By stable, I mean it doesn't have a tendency to produce male flowers under environmental stresses. This forced female (by using colchicine) will produce "XX" and "XY" pollen resulting in progeny that are "XXX" and "XXY". This is the most ideal, and honestly, both are hermi. This is fine though if all you care about is that generation. In other words if you are just going to grow these seeds out, harvest, and then not try to clone or continue the line then you are fine. To me, this is the only real functional application of feminized seeds. For the most part, you will have a 99% female crop with maybe a few hidden nanners on some of those "XXY" females.

At worst, you get a breeder that just wants to make money. They find a dank cut but don't check to see if it is stable before applying the cholcicine. Or, or, or, they look for a fairly dank female that puts out a male nanner or two in flower anyway (without cholcicine). Either way, you are going to get nutty pollen that could be "XX", "XY", "XXY", "XYY". When I hear horror stories about folks having big time hermi problems with fem seeds, it tells me a lot about the breeder they got them from. These seeds are highly unstable and are a waste of the grower's time.

If you plan on cloning and keeping a female alive, then don't waste your time on fem seeds unless you just absolutely have to have a certain female. I'll never waste my time with fem seeds. I would rather spend my time selecting from males and females and finding that one super female to keep. Of course, my setup is condusive to that. As I said, some folks need feminized seeds based on how their grow is set up. So if you can only grow from seed and you can't keep clones, then "Stable" or rather "Reliable" feminized seeds may be an option. Personally I would rather buy double the regular seeds and just cut out the males. This is typically cheaper as feminized seeds are usually more than double the price of regular seeds.

And please, for the love of the plant, if you are planning to breed, DO NOT used a feminized female. Remember, your most ideal case is that she is "XXX". Still a hermi, and the progeny from her crossed with a stable male will be "XXX" and "XXY". HERMI HERMI HERMI. Hermaphrodites are one step closer to our favorite plant turning to hemp. A self pollinating sea of low THC, low yielding plants.

Anyway, rant over.

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why I use female seeds.

I am a medical grower tired of the downside of morphine therapy.

So I plant four female seeds. I then clone four female cuts. I now have in four months a two month no sweat perpetual harvest. Clone as I go and dont eep mothers.


I bought from marjuana seeds nl. I get a kick out of the 100 perecent female ratio and how every plant comes out looking like the online pics do.

But yeah, breeding seems a bad idea. I would not have time tho now to sit around and look for females to clone from. From these four female seeds I have already foudn the plant I like. She can tolerate high ph that a bacteria rich soil creates! I mean it, pheno choosing is fun!

The seed harvest idea was also in my plans.. Gonna sacrifice a female for an entire plant of seeds.. Should get quite a few!

Lowrider is not a plant you can clone. I would say definetly do a seed run.

dirt clean said:

why I use female seeds.

I am a medical grower tired of the downside of morphine therapy.

So I plant four female seeds. I then clone four female cuts. I now have in four months a two month no sweat perpetual harvest. Clone as I go and dont eep mothers.


I bought from marjuana seeds nl. I get a kick out of the 100 perecent female ratio and how every plant comes out looking like the online pics do.

But yeah, breeding seems a bad idea. I would not have time tho now to sit around and look for females to clone from. From these four female seeds I have already foudn the plant I like. She can tolerate high ph that a bacteria rich soil creates! I mean it, pheno choosing is fun!

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None of that matters with autoflower plants, though. Breeding is the only option, it's not an opinion.

A feminized autoflower plant is a slap in the face. One male plant and one female plant and you have seeds forever. 10 fem seeds and you are coming back in a couple weeks for more seeds. And if you ever want to cross it out to a male you like, too bad, because the resulting seeds would yield hermie plants.

So the smart thing for him to do would be to get a regular pack of seeds and grow them all out next to each other and let them have one big orgy. Collect the seeds, sow 100, pull all the males but one and put it aside with a chosen female. Crop your fifty (or whatever) sensi females, and your one pollinated female.


"If you plan on cloning and keeping a female alive, then don't waste your time on fem seeds unless you just absolutely have to have a certain female. I'll never waste my time with fem seeds. I would rather spend my time selecting from males and females and finding that one super female to keep. Of course, my setup is condusive to that. As I said, some folks need feminized seeds based on how their grow is set up. So if you can only grow from seed and you can't keep clones, then "Stable" or rather "Reliable" feminized seeds may be an option. Personally I would rather buy double the regular seeds and just cut out the males. This is typically cheaper as feminized seeds are usually more than double the price of regular seeds."

That seems to make a lot of sense for your situation, Dirt Clean.

wow guys, I am sorry that i wrote that. I must have been a little loaded and distracted by "female seeds". ow.

I grew lowriders for this reason: = I wanted to veg some plants for a few months so I thought I would grow lowriders for the veg period harvest then have something to smoke while the others flowered. IDK what I was thinking, rofl.

I fudged it up by adding too much N or something and they were so slow to flower that to stay legal I just chopped them! I dont recomend this.