LP's and Wannabee's Get Your Own Forum-Don't post on the PATIENT forum

[BCOGYODA]

This thread is just for patients to voice their opinions on what they think about LP's and Wannabee's posting their business stuff in the CANADIAN PATIENTS section of this forum.

LP's and Wannabees DO NOT post on this thread.

I personally feel that this part of the forum has been set aside for Canadian marijuana patients to voice their opinions, concerns, questions, etc.

AND NOT for LP's or Wannabees to be parading around trying to rally together, brainstorm, make business plans, etc..in our part of this forum.

I feel that if they want to use this forum as such then they should ask the mods to set aside a special area for them to do these kinds of things.

IMO patients don't need to be reading LP's and Wannabee's BS about their business plans and questions they have about it.

IMO they should be on some entrepreneur wannabee forum somewhere other than on a PATIENT designated forum space.

How do you patients feel about this? Are you guys/girls tired of seeing them in this PATIENT designated part of Rollitup?

 

[WHATFG]

I really like this idea!!! I was considering fading to black but...I too am tired of trying to defend my position. I'm tired of hearing that I make things sound like the sky is falling...for fuck sakes the sky is falling for me and every other patient that really wants nothing more than to feel well.

 

[eliminare]

I personally like reading what LP's and wannabes have to say, but I do think there should be a dedicated sub section here for them.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Rollitup mobile app

 

[Doobius1]

It is good to know whats going on. Its about gathering info. Getting ready to fight or shut it down? We dont need trolls and flip floppy twits butting in at every turn. I promise to stay out of Wannabe World if they stay out of Chicken Little Land

 

[cannadan]

well I hope this works....I brought up a similar thread to this a few weeks back.....and it didn't fly long....but who knows i'll cross my fingers...
there a quite of few of us that shared the same sentiment....
I am beginning to think some of these newer posters are possibly HC posers trying to bolster the HC message or their own work...
there theme is always the same, and who really reads the mmpr document many times but isn't a patient or caregiver?(maybe HC employee's)
torturing patients with your on line presence should not be in your job description.
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thank you doobius1

 

[VIANARCHRIS]

I think LP's should have their own forum as they do not have the same goals as the patients, I don't have anything against them personally, they just do not have the interests if the patient as their focus. The LP's are for-profit entrepreneurs trying to profit off the suffering of patients, and while I can't blame them for trying to benefit from the new rules, they are in the opposite side of the fight. I encourage everybody to refuse to register with an LP and watch this program die from non-compliance. Some of these LP's have millions invested and will not last long with no customers. I just got invited to an info meeting in my community to listen to an LP trying to get my business. He's advertising the best rates I've heard so far, starting at $6/g, but it's still over 600 times what it costs me to produce. An ounce would be $168+ $21 tax + $25 shipping for a grand total of $204.00/OZ. I can get an ounce of the best BC bud from anyone on the local 'black market' for $140! The most expensive oz I ever bought in this town cost me $160...and I called that guy a crook! I equate doing business with an LP an endorsement of the government's attack on my rights and freedom. My best advice to the LP's is to find a lawyer to take on your class action against HC when the courts once again rule in favor of the patient and you all go under. But you should get your own forum...or maybe we'll just give you this one when we win the court challenge.

 

[Manofculture]

Keep it together - we are all Canadians at the end of it. I hate that the GOV has forced LP's down our throat, I don't blame the LP's at all

 

[ThirstyRoss]

You are whining about the whiners Ross.

Yes, quite. It's a frightfully bad habit.

 

[ispice]

There is literally one active thread about LP's for LP's, every other thread is from patients complaining(rightly so) about the MMPR.

If you cannot ignore one thread or ignore individual members you are probably not fit to participate in any community.

I am a patient and am also an LP wanna be. Wanna be as in just like DG's with the MMAR and just like compassionate care givers before the MMAR. Forgive me for wanting to help sick people and also being forced to register with the government so as to avoid going to jail by doing so.

You should have the right to grow your own medication if you are sick and able, just as much as someone has the right to purchase their medicine from a quality tested source if they are UNABLE to grow their own medication.

Perhaps this forum should be isolated to complete non grower patients, only those disabled enough to not have the ability to care for themselves?

I am a medical cannabis user as well as a provider. What inherently about LP's makes them worse than any other provider, NOTHING, their individual actions determine their reputation.

The MMPR is horrible for criminalizing personal production, the MMPR is not horrible for implementing a licensed production aspect for those unable to produce or even procure their medication, it is far from perfect, the MMPR is the problem not all the LP's.... some of whom do not put the share holder first but the patient.

Some people just cant see the world other than in black and white, considering we should all be high here I though that the colours would seep through...

 

[ThirstyRoss]

There is literally one active thread about LP's for LP's, every other thread is from patients complaining(rightly so) about the MMPR.

If you cannot ignore one thread or ignore individual members you are probably not fit to participate in any community.

I am a patient and am also an LP wanna be. Wanna be as in just like DG's with the MMAR and just like compassionate care givers before the MMAR. Forgive me for wanting to help sick people and also being forced to register with the government so as to avoid going to jail by doing so.

You should have the right to grow your own medication if you are sick and able, just as much as someone has the right to purchase their medicine from a quality tested source if they are UNABLE to grow their own medication.

Perhaps this forum should be isolated to complete non grower patients, only those disabled enough to not have the ability to care for themselves?

I am a medical cannabis user as well as a provider. What inherently about LP's makes them worse than any other provider, NOTHING, their individual actions determine their reputation.

The MMPR is horrible for criminalizing personal production, the MMPR is not horrible for implementing a licensed production aspect for those unable to produce or even procure their medication, it is far from perfect, the MMPR is the problem not all the LP's.... some of whom do not put the share holder first but the patient.

Some people just cant see the world other than in black and white, considering we should all be high here I though that the colours would seep through...

This forum needs more intelligent posts like this, and less inane blather/trolling/nonsense like WHATFG and BCOGYODA post!

 

[WHATFG]

Great advice...idiot! Don't you realize HC is part of the Government? And if they file a class action suit against HC, and win, HC will have to PAY THEM?

You do realize that the Govt of Canada, and by extension, HC, gets its money from the taxpayers? So if your suggested course of action comes true, we will all be paying for that lawsuit...great, thats just a genius idea!

Also - what is so hard about just not reading the LP & "wannabe" threads? You guys act like you own this forum - here's a hot tip for you, you don't! It's a public forum and you can JUST NOT CLICK those threads if you find them so awful.

Goddamn whiners man.

If you had nothing to contribute, why not click on by? Did it occur to you that WE are sick and tired of every fucking conversation ending with how a LP is going to do whatever their going to do? We are all well aware how the gov't operates. While we don't own the forum, it is supposed to be dedicated to Canadian patients, not LP's. I'm tired of being called a whiner, asshole.

 

[spider9]

I think thirstyross and punky could be the same transvestite taking turns in one sick mind with KG acting as their pimp what does any of their crap have to do with patients except that I now know that I do not want to deal with the small LPs just like I don't want to deal with the big one's. if they were that stupid to sign up to this new system and lose their shirts them it deserves them right no suing the tax payers because of their own stupidity.

 

[leaffan]

My son is a patient.
He needs marijuana along with other drugs to function.
I am currently his DG.
I am also an LP wannabe.
So I will make this post on my son's behalf.

My son has concerns with the possible changes coming up. He would prefer it to stay status quo.
His biggest concern is losing his pink paper. Once that pink paper is gone will it ever come back? His thoughts on this is not to surrender it. If he has to go to an LP, he will get a new doctor's document instead of sending in his pink.
Price is a concern. Will his university's health plan pay for it?
Strain selection isn't as much of an issue for him. He is a fairly new patient ( horrible accident 3 years ago ) and hasn't really tried too many different strains. I guess he has been fortunate to get the pain relief and nausea relief from the few different strains I have grown for him.
He doesn't like the notion of being "locked in to one supplier for a year" for many reasons, service, price changes, availability, etc...
He is concerned with the money I have spent on setting up his grow. How am I to get compensation for my costs? Do current licensed growers have to launch a law suit to get compensated for the money spent on garden set ups?

I will add that I have always tried my best to be helpful to patients here. I do see both sides of the coin.

 

[WHATFG]

My son is a patient.
He needs marijuana along with other drugs to function.
I am currently his DG.
I am also an LP wannabe.
So I will make this post on my son's behalf.

My son has concerns with the possible changes coming up. He would prefer it to stay status quo.
His biggest concern is losing his pink paper. Once that pink paper is gone will it ever come back? His thoughts on this is not to surrender it. If he has to go to an LP, he will get a new doctor's document instead of sending in his pink.
Price is a concern. Will his university's health plan pay for it?
Strain selection isn't as much of an issue for him. He is a fairly new patient ( horrible accident 3 years ago ) and hasn't really tried too many different strains. I guess he has been fortunate to get the pain relief and nausea relief from the few different strains I have grown for him.
He doesn't like the notion of being "locked in to one supplier for a year" for many reasons, service, price changes, availability, etc...
He is concerned with the money I have spent on setting up his grow. How am I to get compensation for my costs? Do current licensed growers have to launch a law suit to get compensated for the money spent on garden set ups?

I will add that I have always tried my best to be helpful to patients here. I do see both sides of the coin.

You are a very loving parent. I don't want to lose my pink sheets either. It is almost like a a badge of honour. I say hang on to everything until we here back from Conroy. I honestly believe we will be able to continue as we are, in which case your son can focus on studies and not worrying about an unfair system.

 

[spider9]

Leaffan I did not include you if Hc gets their way the DG and patients who grow their own should be compansated for their losses but any LP stuff should get nothing this LP systems was a sham from the begining and any one who went along with it should lose because of their greed alone.

 

[Kootenaygirl]

Where were you guys last week, I could have used a good workout.

You know where I stand, I think it is funny that the best non MMPR subject you have is eliminating MMPR discussions.

Bring on something more interesting than how canadian patients are dealing with the changes, or in other words the MMPR, we all vote with our posts and views.

True colors shinning through WHATFG! tch tch tch... really aligning yourself with the likes of Cannadan, Spider9, Doobious1, Martyg, and BCOGYoda.

I liked you better as an independent with an open mind.

Spider9 is my #1 bitch, she is into quantity and not quality, if it wasn't for me (pimp) she would give it away for free, and don't you just love the naughty mouth on her!!

 

[VIANARCHRIS]

Great advice...idiot! Don't you realize HC is part of the Government? And if they file a class action suit against HC, and win, HC will have to PAY THEM?

You do realize that the Govt of Canada, and by extension, HC, gets its money from the taxpayers? So if your suggested course of action comes true, we will all be paying for that lawsuit...great, thats just a genius idea!

Also - what is so hard about just not reading the LP & "wannabe" threads? You guys act like you own this forum - here's a hot tip for you, you don't! It's a public forum and you can JUST NOT CLICK those threads if you find them so awful.

Goddamn whiners man.

I was polite in my last post but I don't like being called an idiot...asshole. Thank you for pointing out the complexities of the various governmental departments and where the financial responsibility of flawed legislation and resulting lawsuits lie. Glad to hear the LP's are so flush with money that they can take the hit without seeking compensation. It leaves Harper more money to give to foreign governments to wage war on their people, among other things.
Also - you do realize that the thread was merely a discussion on whether this forum is the right spot for a group that is looking to profit from sick people. No one hand LP posters an expulsion order. Should the patients on the patients forum have to get a new forum to discuss LP's? I think not. Here's a great idea for you...while you are browsing the 'patient forum' and you come across a post bitching about LP's, don't read it. What's so hard about just not reading those threads?

Goddamn vultures man.

 

[spider9]

I will gladly go to jail before supporting the new Lp system. research Calgary Alberta court case in 2007 where a patient charged with giving away 2 oz to other patients who did not have their lic. was given 4 months in jail but did not have to report to jail until the prison system arranged a way for him to receive and smoke his meds. I will go to jail and they can pay for my meds as I am on Canada pension my pension keeps on coming in even if I am behind bars. but I believe he never did have to report to jail so lets go I am ready.

 

[ThirstyRoss]

I was polite in my last post but I don't like being called an idiot...asshole.

Well, just like I said to WHATFG, stop staying idiotic things, then people may stop thinking of you as an idiot! It's really quite simple!

Also, like WHATFG (same poster perhaps?), calling me an asshole doesn't hurt my feelings in any way shape or form, so, yeah, good on ya!

 

[WHATFG]

True colors shinning through WHATFG! tch tch tch... really aligning yourself with the likes of Cannadan, Spider9, Doobious1, Martyg, and BCOGYoda.

I liked you better as an independent with an open mind.

I feel like I'm standing in front of my mother and she's shaking her finger at me. Do you honestly think that patients want to hear about all your business plans? And it's not just you. I think I'm in pretty good company. At least these guys are trying to help me not bend me over and have their way!