Lucas Formula double Bloom???

So I think its 8ml Micro and 16ml bloom for the GH lucas formula. I mean taking out the grow and adding more micro makes a little sense to me, but doubling the bloom?? Thats a lot of bloom, more than any of the GH Feeding charts say to ever even use in flowering! Is this correct or can I reduce the bloom and why double bloom?

A very particular question also is Im keeping mothers and want them NOT to go into flowering after vegging for long periods. Wouldn't adding that much more bloom make certain plants that are prone to flowering want to do it moreso than if I used something with less bloom? does anyone have a lucas formula for just vegging?

I think he says for vegging under flourescent lights change to 5ml micro / 10ml bloom and when under HID switch to 8 / 16... If im vegging under a MH could I still just use 5ml / 10ml? Also, if my plants have been using house-garden for veg nutes for months, could switching to lucas formula with more bloom make the plants want to go into flower mode, especially strains that are more prone to flowering from stress?
Thx!

Plants do not go into flower based on nutrients received. It's based on the light schedule.

You can boost them into flower by giving them a lot of bloom fertalizer and some are more easily stressed into flower than others, but I know what you mean. What about the ratios? Why so much bloom for veg in the lucas formula?

tyepoe said:

You can boost them into flower by giving them a lot of bloom fertalizer and some are more easily stressed into flower than others, but I know what you mean. What about the ratios? Why so much bloom for veg in the lucas formula?

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You can't boost a plant into flower by nutes it's all light.

I think your confusing plants that are just either mature enough to show their sex without going into flower or a stressed out plant that threw a part but isn't flowering. Flowering is either auto by an auto strain with ruderalis and other auto types, or one that you introduce flowering by changing the light cycle to put plant into flower. Just because you give bloom ferts on 18/6 doesn't mean it'll flower. If anything to much and you'll prob burn your plant or lock out what the plant is really using. Keep your mothers under a normal light sched with grow or micro and it won't flower. Give it bloom and 18/6 and it won't just flower cause u gave it bloom.

Thanks. The main thing i'm curious about is why, in the lucas formula, there is so much bloom. There is more micro which makes sense, but why more bloom than is in any General Hydroponics feeding schedule, even during bloom?

tyepoe said:

Thanks. The main thing i'm curious about is why, in the lucas formula, there is so much bloom. There is more micro which makes sense, but why more bloom than is in any General Hydroponics feeding schedule, even during bloom?

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that's because its Lucas formula he cuts out the grow and double the bloom. The double make up for the grow you took out. He figured and uses just micro and bloom. Instead of bloom, micro, and grow. Take out the grow double the bloom. If you did the 3 step you wouldn't use as much bloom and put the grow back in. But in reality you don't need the grow with those Nutes. All in all its a formula that works with those Nutes and takes out one u don't need to buy thus saving money. Start at half what he says and work up if your worried about burning plants. Many people use Lucas formula just tweak a little on the strength if needed

Looking at my bottles I use 2 teaspoons a light feeding and 4 for a heavy per gallon which the 2 teaspoons is a little over 8ml so it's not off by much. The 4 teaspoons is 19ml. That is my bloom ferts.

tyepoe said:

You can boost them into flower by giving them a lot of bloom fertalizer and some are more easily stressed into flower than others, but I know what you mean. What about the ratios? Why so much bloom for veg in the lucas formula?

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No you cannot.

tyepoe said:

Thanks. The main thing i'm curious about is why, in the lucas formula, there is so much bloom. There is more micro which makes sense, but why more bloom than is in any General Hydroponics feeding schedule, even during bloom?

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Instead of using the grow he doubles the bloom because it provides all he nitrogen I believe.

I just use GH Maxibloom all the way throughout. 1 small scoop per gallon and 1ml of CalMag and ph up to around 6. It works.

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adower said:

Instead of using the grow he doubles the bloom because it provides all he nitrogen I believe.

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Ya actually I checked and it seems the bloom has the nitrogen... I thought it was the micro that had it. It all makes sense now. In fact if you add all the numbers up with the Lucas Formula it would be 10 - 10 - 9 so that creates a slightly higher, balanced diet.

Although is adding more micro and double bloom really more cost effective by just eliminating the grow???

tyepoe said:

Ya actually I checked and it seems the bloom has the nitrogen... I thought it was the micro that had it. It all makes sense now. In fact if you add all the numbers up with the Lucas Formula it would be 10 - 10 - 9 so that creates a slightly higher, balanced diet.

Although is adding more micro and double bloom really more cost effective by just eliminating the grow???

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Yes. Well I buy them by the 2.5 gallon jugs.