Lucas Formula Recipe from Scratch "Really"

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he has been crucified for getting people to think, we can't have too many people thinking on their own, it could have negative affects on snake oil sales

I don't care how rude someone is, if they are saying things that can be backed up in a lab and measured I can take their rudeness... At work (I'm a computer programer and work with a lot of special hardware) I often work with engineers that are really talented and really arrogant, I would rather work with these types than say people who are just try to get a pay check. Some of my mentors are very unstable and sometimes treat me harshly, but I know that if I can just keep in mind that I'm not looking to be made to feel good, but rather get to the facts, it is all good.

I've seen fatman argue with people and make them look really ignorant. They could be grateful to have their ignorance exposed or they could get their pride hurt and get pissed. The ones that get prideful and pissed should be thrown out of these forums if these forums are about getting a better understanding. If the forums are just fronts to sell stuff and promote products, then people like fatman *should* be removed. After all, it is business here, not science.
 
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jjfoo said:
he has been crucified for getting people to think, we can't have too many people thinking on their own, it could have negative affects on snake oil sales

I don't care how rude someone is, if they are saying things that can be backed up in a lab and measured I can take their rudeness... At work (I'm a computer programer and work with a lot of special hardware) I often work with engineers that are really talented and really arrogant, I would rather work with these types than say people who are just try to get a pay check. Some of my mentors are very unstable and sometimes treat me harshly, but I know that if I can just keep in mind that I'm not looking to be made to feel good, but rather get to the facts, it is all good.

I've seen fatman argue with people and make them look really ignorant. They could be grateful to have their ignorance exposed or they could get their pride hurt and get pissed. The ones that get prideful and pissed should be thrown out of these forums if these forums are about getting a better understanding. If the forums are just fronts to sell stuff and promote products, then people like fatman *should* be removed. After all, it is business here, not science.
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Absolutely!

I look at it this way, there are NO perfect people. Usually people that have a extremely gifted ability tend to lack some things in other areas. Fatman is a genius but doesnt have the grace to ignore his naysayers and continue with his teachings. Then to compound that, the people who need his teachings let their ego's get in the way and resort to foolishness because they cant battle with wit. It becomes a on-going cycle. I would rather put up with someones shortcomings so that I can move forward with whatever I need done. I think others need to do the same.
 
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jjfoo said:
he has been crucified for getting people to think, we can't have too many people thinking on their own, it could have negative affects on snake oil sales

I don't care how rude someone is, if they are saying things that can be backed up in a lab and measured I can take their rudeness... At work (I'm a computer programer and work with a lot of special hardware) I often work with engineers that are really talented and really arrogant, I would rather work with these types than say people who are just try to get a pay check. Some of my mentors are very unstable and sometimes treat me harshly, but I know that if I can just keep in mind that I'm not looking to be made to feel good, but rather get to the facts, it is all good.

I've seen fatman argue with people and make them look really ignorant. They could be grateful to have their ignorance exposed or they could get their pride hurt and get pissed. The ones that get prideful and pissed should be thrown out of these forums if these forums are about getting a better understanding. If the forums are just fronts to sell stuff and promote products, then people like fatman *should* be removed. After all, it is business here, not science.
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Now, let's examine this for a minute. Every grower I've ever known is arrogant, myself included. This is a site full of growers. You get all these arrogant, egocentric personalities together and without some rules and social norms you would have an all out melee, constantly! Why should a particular person get special treatment because they are "smarter" or a "better" grower? His rudeness isn't the only thing that got him banned. There are always 2 sides to every story and without both of them you've got half a book! I don't know about everyone else but a half a book is pretty useless to me.:?

There are many other knowledgeable people on this site and if the fatman was your only reason for being here well..............you're really missing out. :roll:
 
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patlpp said:
So don’t come out acting all innocent making nice when you know you were part of it TROLL. Like I said, thin-skinned pussies trying to saving face was FATMAN's problem.
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You have no clue what my intentions are or anything about me yet you are making ASSumptions again. When I apologize, I'm sincere, or I won't apologize. I also tried apologizing to you and you know it. If I'm such a phoney why not post the PM for everyone to see how insincere I am? I explained my version of what happened. I'm not going around calling you names and insulting you am I? I'm done with your drama. Call me all the names you want. Insult my thread, I could care less. I listed my sources and yes, some of it is copy and pasted. Is that suddenly a crime? I neve made any wild claims. I did do the research though. Something which had not previously been done on here evidently. And I will point out that YOU CAME TO ME FOR HELP IN ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT WATER! Now all of a sudden my thread sucks. Unbelievable dude! I came into the fatman's thread to see his setup because I am planning on building an aero setup. I know about fatman's prison drama but I don't see how posting pics of something that is perfectly legal and without plants is a problem. I'm not the only one who wanted to see pics of his setup. What you fail to acknowledge is the fact that the fatman also instigated problems with me on multiple occasions. Sending me unsolicited pm's threatening to go to the mods and calling me names! Yet the fatman can do no wrong in your eyes. Your girlfriend is gone. Drop it and go to the site she's at now already! I'm going to drop this now as I've said all I can and don't wish to continue this pointless banter with you any longer. :peace:

If you don't mind I'd like you to explain to everybody exactly how I'm responsible for the fatman's banning when I had stopped posting in his thread 2 days prior to his banning. I had no correpsondence with him for 2 days and it was a completely seperate incident which got him banned. Oh yeah, and I never reported any of his posts or his pm's to the mods. And since you like to say I have to have the last word, I'm going to go ahead and let you have the last word this time so fire away. Have a nice day.:blsmoke:
 
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fLaPzZ said:
He told the truth, and some people don't like hearing the truth.
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He also instigated problems with people and then snitched on them to the mods. I always thought cannabis growers didn't like snitches and here was one of the biggest ones this site has ever seen. I just don't get it.:?
 
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patlpp said:
i'm really sorry for all the bad things i said. i have sand in my verginer.
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Bwahahaha!!! My sides hurt, stop it! I did see what you wrote before it got edited. I'm glad to be held in such high regard by somebody. Nothing but love baby, nothing but love. ;-)
 
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