M4S73R's Perpetual Organic LED Grow.

m4s73r

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Finally got everything ready for plants. Got the drip lines up on stakes, got pulley's added to the back light corners for front of tent adjustment. I went ahead and seeded in some clover in the bed. Hopefully Sluggo takes out any remaining sow bugs and my clover will come up nice and green. Beer cups worked amazing, glad to have this experience in my toolbox.

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itslegalnow

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Whew what a long night. Got both lights hung, girls xplanted into the new bed. Did a good watering in. Ill post some more up later.

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I’ve seen these pots a few times now. I like this idea. Do the current plants benefit from the top cover or is is more for future plant generations to benefit from? Also do you see a dramatic difference in top cover? I’ve heard people over water to keep top cover healthy. Is that why u wait until canopy was full and shading top cover plants so they don’t dry out? Your grow is awesome btw.
 

Hollatchaboy

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Finally got everything ready for plants. Got the drip lines up on stakes, got pulley's added to the back light corners for front of tent adjustment. I went ahead and seeded in some clover in the bed. Hopefully Sluggo takes out any remaining sow bugs and my clover will come up nice and green. Beer cups worked amazing, glad to have this experience in my toolbox.

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Lookin good and ready!
I have a question, I have my cover crop grown in. Does it look like too much? Should I chop now?

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itslegalnow

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Well the traps are FULL. 3 days pulling the little bastards out my bed and they still in there. I finally admitted that I needed some help and ordered some Sluggo Plus. Its for organic gardens. I was really trying to not do that, but I have to admit when im beat. I got plants coming, dont have time to be messing around.
Got some pulleys from the hardware store. Going to be switching up light hangers in the back of the tent to some pulleys. I did this already in the Hugelkulture bed. Now I can stand at the front and Adjust all 4 points with out having to walk around it to get the light level. One of these days I will have these attached to electric hoists.


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I’ve read that food grade diatomaceous earth works well. I’ve heard mixing into soil can also be useful. I’ve used massive amounts on my basil and had excellent results.
 

m4s73r

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I’ve seen these pots a few times now. I like this idea. Do the current plants benefit from the top cover or is is more for future plant generations to benefit from? Also do you see a dramatic difference in top cover? I’ve heard people over water to keep top cover healthy. Is that why u wait until canopy was full and shading top cover plants so they don’t dry out? Your grow is awesome btw.
Thank you! Its been a journey.

As for the cover crop. They do benefit from it.
Having roots in soil keeps your Rhizosphere up and running at all times.
It helps in keeping your soil biology alive and providing nutrients to your plants. Thats while its alive.
When you mow it, it provides leaf litter for your soil biology to eat. Mow often.
It helps with retaining water.
It helps with moving water through your soil by wicking it to the surface.
I’ve read that food grade diatomaceous earth works well. I’ve heard mixing into soil can also be useful. I’ve used massive amounts on my basil and had excellent results.
DE does work well. However, in organics, its the carpet bomb approach. See DE will kill most all of the critters in your soil. Im not looking for that. Im looking to get rid of once spacific bug. So this is a more targeted approach. For pill bugs the beer trick works, or Sluggo Plus. Never tried the basil do they run from it or eat it and die?
Lookin good and ready!
I have a question, I have my cover crop grown in. Does it look like too much? Should I chop now?

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Yes sir. mow that shit down. And from this day forward never let it get more than 2-3 inches tall. Mow it often. if your doing a living soil approach. If your doing a earthbox, then cover it with your plastic and let it all die and decompost into the soil. Earth boxes dont need living mulch like Beds do. But they do benifit from the organic matter (roots/leaves) that are now breaking down and feeding your soil biology making your plant grow faster. So if you got a clone ready to go, cover that and drop your clone.
 

Hollatchaboy

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Thank you! Its been a journey.

As for the cover crop. They do benefit from it.
Having roots in soil keeps your Rhizosphere up and running at all times.
It helps in keeping your soil biology alive and providing nutrients to your plants. Thats while its alive.
When you mow it, it provides leaf litter for your soil biology to eat. Mow often.
It helps with retaining water.
It helps with moving water through your soil by wicking it to the surface.

DE does work well. However, in organics, its the carpet bomb approach. See DE will kill most all of the critters in your soil. Im not looking for that. Im looking to get rid of once spacific bug. So this is a more targeted approach. For pill bugs the beer trick works, or Sluggo Plus. Never tried the basil do they run from it or eat it and die?

Yes sir. mow that shit down. And from this day forward never let it get more than 2-3 inches tall. Mow it often. if your doing a living soil approach. If your doing a earthbox, then cover it with your plastic and let it all die and decompost into the soil. Earth boxes dont need living mulch like Beds do. But they do benifit from the organic matter (roots/leaves) that are now breaking down and feeding your soil biology making your plant grow faster. So if you got a clone ready to go, cover that and drop your clone.
Yea it's the earthbox. I wasnt sure is I overdid it with the cover crop. I dumped a lot of seeds in. Lol

I don't have a clone ready. I figured the cover crop was going to take longer to grow in, but I'll cut one Thursday when I get home. Should I cover the crop right away, or should I let it keep going until my clone is ready?
 

m4s73r

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Yea it's the earthbox. I wasnt sure is I overdid it with the cover crop. I dumped a lot of seeds in. Lol

I don't have a clone ready. I figured the cover crop was going to take longer to grow in, but I'll cut one Thursday when I get home. Should I cover the crop right away, or should I let it keep going until my clone is ready?
Oh yeah cover it now. We dont need it to get old. just grown in green and then killed off.
 

Hollatchaboy

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Oh yeah cover it now. We dont need it to get old. just grown in green and then killed off.
Cool man. Thanks. My thinking is, if I let it grow much longer it's just robbing any nutrition the soil has anyways. I'll cover it now.

Did you ever find out the condition of the logs you buried btw?
 

itslegalnow

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Oh, the Basil was just part of my raised bed vegetable grow. I was companion growing in my garden but i had a ton of Cucumber Beatles and little beneficial insects at the time so i just covered everything in DE and after a week i didn’t see any of them anymore. I washed everything down after that. Eventually i was blessed with wasps and other beneficial insects in the garden. I get it though, it does wipe out everything including the good guys. The beer cups seems like a good idea. Did the bugs hide under the rocks?
 

m4s73r

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Cool man. Thanks. My thinking is, if I let it grow much longer it's just robbing any nutrition the soil has anyways. I'll cover it now.

Did you ever find out the condition of the logs you buried btw?
Nope, although I did get to pocking my soil with my new moiusture meter (has a longer tip) and i was running into hard wood in there. So not all sponge material yet.
Oh, the Basil was just part of my raised bed vegetable grow. I was companion growing in my garden but i had a ton of Cucumber Beatles and little beneficial insects at the time so i just covered everything in DE and after a week i didn’t see any of them anymore. I washed everything down after that. Eventually i was blessed with wasps and other beneficial insects in the garden. I get it though, it does wipe out everything including the good guys. The beer cups seems like a good idea. Did the bugs hide under the rocks?
They did. And im ok with a couple rocks as they give me a portal into how the soil is doing. I lift a rock and see whats going on.
 

Hollatchaboy

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Nope, although I did get to pocking my soil with my new moiusture meter (has a longer tip) and i was running into hard wood in there. So not all sponge material yet.

They did. And im ok with a couple rocks as they give me a portal into how the soil is doing. I lift a rock and see whats going on.
I was just wondering if it was a quick breakdown, or a long slow one. I'm thinking that the long breakdown would be better, as to keep nutrition in your soil for cycles to come!
 

m4s73r

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Grrrr flipped a rock and I still have some. They are much reduced but not eliminated. I may have gotten over confidant.
 

m4s73r

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I was using the tops of the pumpkins we carved. I got sluggo plus on the beds. It will take care of it, im just impatient. I dont like not having something growing on that bed.
 

m4s73r

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Its kinda been a day. Inspected a leak in my drip system. The damn splitter is leaking. So going to have to take that out. I hate undoing water fittings.
 

Hollatchaboy

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Its kinda been a day. Inspected a leak in my drip system. The damn splitter is leaking. So going to have to take that out. I hate undoing water fittings.
Don't be so down. You have a killer setup, and you know how to use it. Look at it this way, you could still be a noob. Lol
 

m4s73r

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Don't be so down. You have a killer setup, and you know how to use it. Look at it this way, you could still be a noob. Lol
Shit man, some days I feel like a noob. Im not down really. Nothing ever happens in my garden so something like this requires me to "do" stuff. I am also not sure im happy with my watering system yet. I switched over from the C sprayers cause of the amount of mist that was blowing around the room jacking up my humidity. The drip lines arent jacking up my humidity but they are not wetting the entire top of the mulch either. The other bed is looking good. Im ready to get these plants in it. I think were going to have 9. the G13xBH finaly sprouted some shoots.

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Girl Scout Cookies not moving.

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The G13/BH looking shitty and stunted.

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And the Painkiller that you can barely see. Its still green. just not growing

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Hollatchaboy

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Shit man, some days I feel like a noob. Im not down really. Nothing ever happens in my garden so something like this requires me to "do" stuff. I am also not sure im happy with my watering system yet. I switched over from the C sprayers cause of the amount of mist that was blowing around the room jacking up my humidity. The drip lines arent jacking up my humidity but they are not wetting the entire top of the mulch either. The other bed is looking good. Im ready to get these plants in it. I think were going to have 9. the G13xBH finaly sprouted some shoots.

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Girl Scout Cookies not moving.

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The G13/BH looking shitty and stunted.

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And the Painkiller that you can barely see. Its still green. just not growing

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I'm using a sip right now, and honestly, it's so easy. Just add water to the res. Wicking and gravity do the rest. I'm never overwatered or underwatered. I thought about trying drip, but the learning curve, for me, would be too steep. Lol

Those top ones are looking good. Hopefully the other ones come around for ya. :bigjoint:
 
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