Maintaining terpene profiles post harvest

Seawood

Seawood

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Being only my second year at growing outdoors and my third harvest, I have an overwhelming common theme going on here...the smell of hay. I’ve dried slowly over 7-8 days and jarred and cured properly allowing air exchanges multiple times per day, reducing burping until the humidity levels out and the buds are “cured”. The beautiful aromas when the plants are harvested slowly dissipate and are replaced by the common hay-like smell....so disappointing. Only thing I can think of is the trimming process. Has anyone done a comparison with wet vs dr trimming and how it relates to terpenes? I have buds hanging now and a few more plants to go over the next couple of weeks and looking for other’s experience with this. I just dry trimmed one branch as an experiment and what a pain in the ass. Soooo slow. But if this is what it takes then so be it. That being said, the stuff I wet trimmed is already getting that hay smell after 4 days hanging. I want my pot smelling as sweet as it tastes. Help.
 
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KryptoBud

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Seawood said:
Being only my second year at growing outdoors and my third harvest, I have an overwhelming common theme going on here...the smell of hay. I’ve dried slowly over 7-8 days and jarred and cured properly allowing air exchanges multiple times per day, reducing burping until the humidity levels out and the buds are “cured”. The beautiful aromas when the plants are harvested slowly dissipate and are replaced by the common hay-like smell....so disappointing. Only thing I can think of is the trimming process. Has anyone done a comparison with wet vs dr trimming and how it relates to terpenes? I have buds hanging now and a few more plants to go over the next couple of weeks and looking for other’s experience with this. I just dry trimmed one branch as an experiment and what a pain in the ass. Soooo slow. But if this is what it takes then so be it. That being said, the stuff I wet trimmed is already getting that hay smell after 4 days hanging. I want my pot smelling as sweet as it tastes. Help.
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I'd bet you might be harvesting early any pics?
 
Seawood

Seawood

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Krypto, I know that was an issue with a couple of the autos I grew this summer but don’t think that was an issue with the photos. First pic is from one I cut Monday. Pic was taken sep 21. Plant was done, I’m sure. 2nd pic is from a top I cut yesterday. This one I’m not sure on...would stretch it another week but the weather isn’t looking great.
 

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Gemtree

Gemtree

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I find more leafy/hairy strains can smell like hay, or not have any smell unless you squeeze them, if the terps arent super overpowering like a really orange or raunchy kush terp. I like strains with just fat swollen calyxs, tiny hairs, and super high bud to leaf ratio.
 
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LinguaPeel

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Only drug dealers trim their pot before it's dry. The FBI is watching you now.

Sucks none of the big indoor growers will share this info, but as a gorilla grower, I left lots of half rotted crops go untouched. The rotted areas would get the rot smell, no weed, the middle areas would get the hay smell, no weed, and the salvageable colas were the dankest ever, all weed, being left untouched and rooted with no water in the cool fall. I coin the phrase Middle American Vine Ripening Drought Weather Stress Farming Tek.

The presence of any foreign substance be it mold soap fertilizer pesticides I don't care, thats the number one reason I'm seeing buds not finish properly, just fucks the whole natural process up. And number two is harvesting green plants full of photosynthetic activity and abusing them after harvest rather than prior. 12/12 starts bloom it doesn't ripen the buds until you take a step closer towards old man winter.
 
Seawood

Seawood

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Well Mother Nature, old man winter and any other environment controlling qwifs can kiss my ass. I’m not letting 5 months and 3 lbs worth of hard work go to hell to get a 25% dank harvest in 2-3 more weeks after the rot and mildew have raped and pillaged my ladies.

I’ll stick with my hay-smelling, mostly cloudy trich mid-grade ditch weed until further notice. Still gets me higher than I need to be.
 
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Observe & Report

Observe & Report

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IME, hay smell is from jarring too wet. I think that "perfect cure every time" thread and especially the line "once humidity drops to X curing stops" has ruined more good buds than anything else. After I stopped farting around with the jars and a hygrometer and burping and all that nonsense and just let my buds get fully dry before jarring I stopped having problems with smell disappearing. Takes 3-4 weeks in my setup at mid 50's humidity.
 
Seawood

Seawood

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PJ Diaz said:
Genetics.
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I dunno, man...I ran Dinafem and RQS this grow and same results.

This is what I don’t get...leave a jar open in a room in the house, walk away and come back 20 min later and it smells like an Amsterdam café. Go stick my nose in the jar and nothing but hay.
 
matakumbaPro

matakumbaPro

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Observe & Report said:
IME, hay smell is from jarring too wet. I think that "perfect cure every time" thread and especially the line "once humidity drops to X curing stops" has ruined more good buds than anything else. After I stopped farting around with the jars and a hygrometer and burping and all that nonsense and just let my buds get fully dry before jarring I stopped having problems with smell disappearing. Takes 3-4 weeks in my setup at mid 50's humidity.
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You dry your MJ for 3-4 weeks at 50% RH? You hang them whole and untrimmed I assume, correct?
 
Gemtree

Gemtree

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Seawood said:
I dunno, man...I ran Dinafem and RQS this grow and same results.

This is what I don’t get...leave a jar open in a room in the house, walk away and come back 20 min later and it smells like an Amsterdam café. Go stick my nose in the jar and nothing but hay.
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Dinafem and rqs arent that good. Get some relentless or bodhi or ever connoisseur if you have to buy from euro banks
 
Seawood

Seawood

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Gemtree said:
Dinafem and rqs arent that good. Get some relentless or bodhi or ever connoisseur if you have to buy from euro banks
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Really? I thought they were pretty solid seedbanks, based on reviews. I’ll buy anywhere...not partial, just want the best genetics I can get.
 
Gemtree

Gemtree

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Seawood said:
Really? I thought they were pretty solid seedbanks, based on reviews. I’ll buy anywhere...not partial, just want the best genetics I can get.
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They aren't terrible I just prefer newer genetics like dosidos, gg4, grandpas breath type crosses.
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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That one fact about buds being fully dry before jarring is vastly overlooked and so.much bad info says that you will overdry this way.

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Observe & Report said:
IME, hay smell is from jarring too wet. I think that "perfect cure every time" thread and especially the line "once humidity drops to X curing stops" has ruined more good buds than anything else. After I stopped farting around with the jars and a hygrometer and burping and all that nonsense and just let my buds get fully dry before jarring I stopped having problems with smell disappearing. Takes 3-4 weeks in my setup at mid 50's humidity.
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Gemtree

Gemtree

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I've jarred lots of weed at 60-65% and it never smelled like hay once I started growing better genetics and dry trimming so Im going with those.
 
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