Malawi and Kazulu Landrace strains

gcubebuddy · May 28, 2021

Hi all, i am wanting to know if anyone here has had any experience with African landrace strains?
I am sprouting 4 malawi and 4 kazulu seeds, so i can cross them with each other and with
Lao Village Thai and Highland Thai.... i heard from another person in another post that
landraces tend to hate being fed and to use Coco Core for them....

i was wondering if anyone had any experince with these strains.

BobThe420Builder · May 28, 2021

I've grown Malawi, but been awhile, don't remember how it took nutes

I've Grown Golden Tiger a few times lately, 16week flowering strain. It hated N in flower, went with basically bloom nutes only and lots of PK booster

Both the Malawi and GT where Ace seeds, great strains, still have a bunch of both , seeds, left

Shua1991 · May 28, 2021

I grew malawi back in 2016-2017 and golden tiger back in 2018-2020, both using soil and fox farms nutrients.

GT is (Koh Chang Thai x Malawi), both bred by ace, any particular queries?

EhCndGrower · May 28, 2021

Gonna be starting a Malawi myself from Ace Seeds hopefully within the week for a tent grow. Gonna LST her good before the 12/12 switch and hopefully grow a monster

gcubebuddy · May 28, 2021

BobThe420Builder said:
I've grown Malawi, but been awhile, don't remember how it took nutes

I've Grown Golden Tiger a few times lately, 16week flowering strain. It hated N in flower, went with basically bloom nutes only and lots of PK booster

Both the Malawi and GT where Ace seeds, great strains, still have a bunch of both , seeds, left

Hi, quick question i have heard this term in another chat as well "nutes" - what exactly is that?
lol i have not heard that term before...

also thanks for responding to my post

BobThe420Builder · May 28, 2021

Nutes = nutrients

coolkid.02 · May 28, 2021

The terms Landrace and heirlooms are overused and are each a little different.

Landrace is undomesticated and wild, these plants are rare to come by and are typically very sensitive.

Malawi and the like are often worked heirloom varieties that are easier to grow in various environments.

coolkid.02 · May 28, 2021

The real question is why do you want to cross these lines together? it’s a lot of time, effort, and resources to invest in a project.I would recommend growing those lines to see what potential they have first. Then decided if the plants are worth your time to cross. Just my 2 cents. Best of luck on your journey.

gcubebuddy · May 28, 2021

Thanks for all the reponses. ya onething i am wondering, for example with the Lao Villiage i am currently growing, i have read that to grow indoors, i should put it straight into flower mode. when i did that with my Lao Landrace strain, it has taken forever for them to go into flower... infact i fianly took clones of one of the female plants and planted them outside, where they seem to be doing better. For the malawi and Kazulu, do they have the same issue - long flowering times that would require any modification on lighting? also with potting soil, and nutrients?

what i am wanting to do, is to cross the Lao and Highland Thai, then cross Malawi and Kazulu and then cross the offspring with each other...
once i get a cross of all of those, i was going to cross it with something that has a shorter flower time, to make it more manageable...

gcubebuddy · May 28, 2021

coolkid.02 said:
The real question is why do you want to cross these lines together? it’s a lot of time, effort, and resources to invest in a project.I would recommend growing those lines to see what potential they have first. Then decided if the plants are worth your time to cross. Just my 2 cents. Best of luck on your journey.

I am trying to create a pure sativa for my nephew who is currently in business collage, and is planning on starting his own dispensery. i wanted to have it ready so he can hit the ground running with it. i also have plans for a pure hash indica as well.

gcubebuddy · May 28, 2021

Here are pics I posted on another chat.

rockethoe · May 28, 2021

As far as I know to breed a line successfully, especially in that little time, you're going to need a whole bigger volume of progeny to select from, than what is in those pictures of your garden.
From your posting history I see your interested in starting breeding. Im certainly no expert, only a beginner myself when it comes to breeding, but I highly recommend Carol Deppe's book "Breed Your Own Vegetable Varieties" It has a great run down on genetics, selection etc. and is appropriate for a beginner. It presents a very readable and learnable take on the science of breeding.

If anyone else here has book or resource recommendations on the subject, I'd love to hear them.

gcubebuddy · May 28, 2021

rockethoe said:
As far as I know to breed a line successfully, especially in that little time, you're going to need a whole bigger volume of progeny to select from, than what is in those pictures of your garden.
From your posting history I see your interested in starting breeding. Im certainly no expert, only a beginner myself when it comes to breeding, but I highly recommend Carol Deppe's book "Breed Your Own Vegetable Varieties" It has a great run down on genetics, selection etc. and is appropriate for a beginner. It presents a very readable and learnable take on the science of breeding.

If anyone else here has book or resource recommendations on the subject, I'd love to hear them.

awesome thanks!

BobThe420Builder · May 28, 2021

Ya

Trying to create a strain for a dispensary is not a viable plan

Why do I want it?
What's the high like?
Why that over a PROVEN strain?

Will take years to get acceptance

I've created a zillion strains for my own enjoyment, try that 1st

rockethoe · May 28, 2021

gcubebuddy said:
awesome thanks!

Also it is available to pirate on lib, if you're into such things - also many other interesting textbooks available there. I downloaded it originally, but found it was fantastic, so bought the hardcopy.

rockethoe · May 28, 2021

BobThe420Builder said:
Ya

Trying to create a strain for a dispensary is not a viable plan

Why do I want it?
What's the high like?
Why that over a PROVEN strain?

Will take years to get acceptance

I've created a zillion strains for my own enjoyment, try that 1st

Certainly a valid point. If you are breeding you should have an end goal in mind. Why are you breeding it? As in, what traits particularly are you looking for? that will help you figure out the selections.

BobThe420Builder · May 28, 2021

rockethoe said:
Certainly a valid point. If you are breeding you should have an end goal in mind. Why are you breeding it? As in, what traits particularly are you looking for? that will help you figure out the selections.

Exactly

I live GDP, I out that shit on everything...lol

And CBD strains, same same

And now the golden Tiger is my new crossing Test Dummy

But I've grown and smoked a bunch of each, so know what I'm hoping for out if the crosses

higher self · May 28, 2021

Yeah seems like OP doesn't really know what he wants out of the crosses besides it being pure sativa. Usually when I'm day dreaming about the chucks I want to make its bc I know the parents or have a general idea of the two combined. Just grow them out 1st reserving males then work with the best plants.

gcubebuddy said:
what i am wanting to do, is to cross the Lao and Highland Thai, then cross Malawi and Kazulu and then cross the offspring with each other...
once i get a cross of all of those, i was going to cross it with something that has a shorter flower time, to make it more manageable...

This is going to take a long time especially using sativa plants bc you have to test the progeny. I would just use the best sativa you get then hit it with that shorter flowering male, find the short flowering sativa phenos & work that line.

gcubebuddy · May 28, 2021

ok awesome thanks everyone. you have given me alot to think about. The reason i was looking towords the african strains, is i have heard that they are more psyco-active than other strains. i was wanting to pair that with the Thai strains as i have smoked that on a regular basis. i also love GDP too :-)

but there seems to be none around here in OK.C.

so in short, teh take away is that i should just test out the strains first before planning anything serious with it right? and preserve pollen from the males when i find them?

higher self · May 28, 2021

I've grown a couple different African strains even Kilimanjaro from World of Seeds, its a good smoke but wouldn't say the high was any different than other sativas. I never really felt much difference in sativas beyond some feel more racy/antsy than others but thats just me.

I mean you can breed/chuck now like the rest of us & just see what you get but as far as serious professional breeding for dispensary, your definitely going to have to do a lot more work. Grow um out round one then chuck round 2

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