Mandala Seeds - Satori Grow

Hey Folks,

I've finally got around to starting my 2nd grow. This time, I'll be growing Satori seeds from Mandala.

Here's the breeders info on the strain if you're interested...

Satori

I popped the seeds straight into a nice potting mix last Friday. I am using Murphy's multi purpose compost this time with some perlite and vermiculite added to the mix. I spent a lot of cash on Canna soil for my first grow, so I'm trying to save some money this time by just using a general multi purpose compost. 3 bags for a tenner, instead of 1 bag for 15 quid!! I've also added some perlite and vermiculite to the mix as well.

Mandala have some excellent growing guidlelines on their website, which I plan to follow as closely as possible. I have got myself an EC truncheon and will be monitoring my salt levels in my water and nutrient solution for this grow. Mandala say you should never feed at an EC higher than 0.8 in soil.

"With a nutrient solution of 0,6-0,8 EC you can't do much wrong unless you make a mistake with the feeding frequency"

My tap water after standing has a PH of 7.4 and 0.7 EC. After PH-ing my water down to 6.5, EC is at 0.8. This means I will need to use mineral water when feeding to keep the EC down around 0.8. Mineral water has a very low salt concentration (low EC), so I will be able to add nutrients to the solution and still keep the EC around 0.8 for feeding to the plants.

This all sounds like a lot of hassle, but Mandala strains have low nutrient requirements, so I won't actually be feeding them that much anyway. That's the plan anyway.

Incidentaly, I also have some Mandala Hashberry seeds too, but I will get the Satori's sexed and out of my veg space before I start the Hashberry's off.

So anyway........here's a few pics of my progress so far.....4 days in soil and 2 have broken the surface already!

This dude grows some nice plants. Watch this one.

SmokerE said:

This dude grows some nice plants. Watch this one.

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HAHA, I hope I don't fuck this one up now! No pressure!! Cheers Smoker mate, I'll try not to dissapoint anyway.

3 of my babies are out of the soil now and are doing fine so far. 1 seems to be pushing the soil up a bit, starting to come up. The other 2 are still sleeping! Hopefully they will all be out of the soil by tomorrow.

Just a quick update at the end of Week 1. It's now 8 days since I popped my Satori's into the soil.

2 are still sleeping!! 1 was a bit slow to surface, took 6 days. The first 3 were out of the soil within 3 days.

Just a quick update so I don't get too far behind on my journal entries! I'm so busy at the moment, I'm struggling to keep it up to date.

I nearly killed all my little Satori babies last week!! I had to go away with work for the week and I only remembered to ask my mrs to water them the once. They really needed 2 x waterings while I was away! So when I got back home at the weekend and went to check on them, I found some very sorry looking seedlings indeed. The first set of young fan leaves were very brown and crispy as the plant had sucked all the moisture out trying to keep the rest of the plant alive I guess. The rest of the leaves were still green (ish), but were all very limp and shrivelled up!

So I gave them all a good drink and a few hours later they were looking much better again, except for the crispy first set of young fan leaves which I know won't recover now, but I'm not bothered about them anyway.

Out of the 6 seeds I planted, 4 are doing just fine and I'm hoping these are my 4 girls. 1 is a runt and the 6th one never made it out of the soil, hopefully 2 of my males....fingers crossed anyway!

I'll get some pics up soon when I get chance.

ooh! those are the two mandala strains i'm most interested in growing (well, and mandala #1)... so i'll be keeping a close eye on this thread

best of luck!!!

SnowWhite said:

My tap water after standing has a PH of 7.4 and 0.7 EC. After PH-ing my water down to 6.5, EC is at 0.8. This means I will need to use mineral water when feeding to keep the EC down around 0.8. Mineral water has a very low salt concentration (low EC), so I will be able to add nutrients to the solution and still keep the EC around 0.8 for feeding to the plants.

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You got it!

Mineral water 'should' have an EC of around 0.2-0.3 ish, so that leaves you about 0.6ish for nutrients. You could also try using say 50/50 distilled/tap water or 70/30 distilled tap water. Tap water still has decent quantities of Mg in it.

I also agree on ditching the Canna soil - it's good stuff, as is Allmix, but it's way over-priced for what it is.

Did you dig up the ones that didn't show and have a look? Because you know I had exactly the same problem with mine - I dug it up and put it back in and it sprouted and became my best plant - go figure.

Also runts aren't always runts - the slowest growing plant in my previous grow turned out to be the only female.

I also think now that pre-soaking these seeds might improve their germination rate.

Anyway, glad to see you're underway - if you get any problems I might be able to help with - you know where I am

Best of luck with the Satoris - I know you're gonna be as happy with them as I am with mine

lumberjack_ian said:

ooh! those are the two mandala strains i'm most interested in growing (well, and mandala #1)... so i'll be keeping a close eye on this thread

best of luck!!!

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Thanks Ian mate.....I'm really pleased with the Satori's so far. I'm itching to start off my Hashberries too, but I have to be smart about it....I just don't have the space at the moment! Day 21 picture update to follow very shorlty!

babygro said:

Also runts aren't always runts - the slowest growing plant in my previous grow turned out to be the only female.

I also think now that pre-soaking these seeds might improve their germination rate.

Anyway, glad to see you're underway - if you get any problems I might be able to help with - you know where I am

Best of luck with the Satoris - I know you're gonna be as happy with them as I am with mine

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Hey bbg, thanks for checking in on my grow. My runt is doing great now actually and is starting to catch up with the others. Last one never made it at all though. Duff seed I reckon. It looked a little small and dodgy when I planted it and I was going to select a better looking one instead, but I didn't want to discriminate too much. Good things.....small packages and all that crap!! HAHAHAHA! Obviously not in this case!! Anyway, 5/6 aint too bad. I did get 10/10 with my snow whites using the wet towell method! so something to think about anyway.

I might try the wet towel method with my hasberries and see how they get on. They've been sitting in my cupboard for a couple of months now, so I know they're not as fresh as they could be. Pictures coming next, so you can see how my little satoris are doing for yourself. Laters!!

Update - 3 weeks - Day 21

So it's been 3 weeks since I popped my Satoris into the dirt. I nearly dehydrated and killed them all in the 2nd week, but I'm glad to say they've recovered really well and are doing great. Only 5 out of my 6 planted seeds made it. 1 was a runt, but is catching up now, I think it could still put the others to shame!

The "runt" is the back middle one in the attahced pics.

I've not fed any nutes yet, just been watered with standing tap water PH'd to 6.5 and nothing else. They are in need of a repot now though and I'll be doing this later today or tomorrow. The new fresh soil will keep them nicely fed for a couple more weeks yet so I still won't be using any nutes.

Anyway....here's the pics after 21 days from seed.....

lookin nice and healthy there sw, nice to see someone else on here with hashberry.. good luck with it and im a subscriber!

so far so good man keep up the good work they are looking great

What lights are they livin under SW? They look tight...Nice work so far

Hey Morp, Turbo....thanks for stopping by my journal.

daddychrisg, cheers mate....I'm vegging under 2 x 125W blue spec envirolites. Envirolites indoor growing envirolite grow lights reflectors for more info

no problem man if you need any help let me know

Do you have a nice hood for those envirolights? I have not looked into a distributor for the US. We seem to have a harder time getting those larger CFL's over here.. I can't give up my 400w MH for veg! Talk about growth! But in the summer it get's a bit warm, so those enviro's look pretty nice ... Cheers, thanks for the info...

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Do you have a nice hood for those envirolights? I have not looked into a distributor for the US. We seem to have a harder time getting those larger CFL's over here.. I can't give up my 400w MH for veg! Talk about growth! But in the summer it get's a bit warm, so those enviro's look pretty nice ... Cheers, thanks for the info...

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Yeah, I got a double reflector with 2 x E40 fittings for the bulbs and it just plugs direct into the mains. You could also check out eco lights which are basically the same....Ecotechnics UK Ltd

These big CFL grow lamps put out very little heat and you can literally have them 2-3 inches off your plants.

I repotted my Satoris last Friday (Day 21) to 6" pots. They've not been fed any nutes yet, just PH'd (6.5) water every 2-3 days.

I'm very pleased with how they're doing so far!

Picture Update - Day 24

The middle front one is my "runt"
The small pot on the left is my dead seed that never made it.
For all the others growth is very similar so far and they are looking good!

I wish we could fast forward this thread and hear about how the smoke is! Looks great so far SW, keep up the love!

ive read quite a bit about mandela seeds,they seem to have put in the time and effort going to india to get good breeding and then stableizing the strains,i wish i could grow some,baby grow is growing them too,im waiting to see how they end up.