Marine Critically Wounded in Occupy protest by Oakland PD

You can "stand up to the government take over by the 1%" without kicking the 99% in the balls.

That brings me back to the point of where the problem you're bringing up is entirely imaginary. It's not a real problem. It's a hypothetical problem. No one is kicking anyone in the balls.

Real change isn't going to come with a few quiet protests in a designated protesting zone somewhere. These protests have to be someone disruptive in order to force the politicians to address this issue. And guess what? If you have to take the long way to work, that's worth it if we can get this problem addressed.

You're just finding an excuse to complain.
 
That brings me back to the point of where the problem you're bringing up is entirely imaginary. It's not a real problem. It's a hypothetical problem. No one is kicking anyone in the balls.

Real change isn't going to come with a few quiet protests in a designated protesting zone somewhere. These protests have to be someone disruptive in order to force the politicians to address this issue. And guess what? If you have to take the long way to work, that's worth it if we can get this problem addressed.

You're just finding an excuse to complain.

the only "acceptable" protests are the ones done by heavily-armed tea partiers.

all others need not apply.
 
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when the police state is hurting peaceful assemblers
and when you have violent cops in this fascist police state...
Well they want to provocateur war then they shall receive...
 
That brings me back to the point of where the problem you're bringing up is entirely imaginary. It's not a real problem. It's a hypothetical problem. No one is kicking anyone in the balls.

Real change isn't going to come with a few quiet protests in a designated protesting zone somewhere. These protests have to be someone disruptive in order to force the politicians to address this issue. And guess what? If you have to take the long way to work, that's worth it if we can get this problem addressed.

You're just finding an excuse to complain.

If you want change by disruption... disrupt the god damn government or the enemy corporations. Not the hard working middle and lower class people on their way to work.

I know you love your occupy protests. I have nothing against them at all. I have only heard one story of such an action and I think it was in Tuscon (don't quote me on this, not positive at all). There are lines that a moral person doesn't cross. Go pack the lobby of a Wells Fargo or something.
 
I'm an outspoken advocate of free speech, even challenging my congressman's staff at a local town forum in an effort to get people to be allowed to take posters inside the building. And this was long before the TEA Party was even thought of being formed.

Free speech doesn't include blocking traffic, trashing public parks, throwing items at the public and the police.

Don't be an idiot, man. Open your eyes and see that the folks behind the tools in the parks WANT violence to escalate. Open up a history book for cryin' out loud.

That resembles a response i posted about a month ago when i visited OWS and got shit for it.


Live with it people this is why people are arrested.
 
That's a trick invented by the SFPD in the 1960s. Still used today.

They were making allegations of that in Oakland too. But if the protesters are really attacking the police, then where are the injured cops? \

Where are the injured foot ball players? when dressed for the appropriated occasion the injured appear less often..
 
I'd like to see proof that this has actually happened. Saying they should all pack up and go home because of some "what if?" shit isn't good enough. If you're late due to someone totally out of your control like that and it's verifiable, no one is going to get fired.

If no one is actually getting fired, then your problem doesn't exist and is not a good enough reason to stop it.

Why must you have proof to answer a hypothetical question........ oh you don't have an answer so you are trying to wiggle your way out of it.


Not to mention in the private sector if you are late & not bleeding you have some explaining to do followed by at firing.
 
Where are the injured foot ball players? when dressed for the appropriated occasion the injured appear less often..

So you think that cops in Oakland are actually getting injured, they are just keeping it all a big secret or something? Why would they do that? Releasing that info to the press would have justified their actions. The mayor of Oakland might lose her job over this and you think she would keep that sort of thing secret even though releasing it is in her own best interest? I don't think so.

And you can read about pretty much every injured football player in the paper each week. Usually when cops get seriously injured in the line of duty, that gets in the paper too. Where is that info now? It doesn't exist because these "attacks" on the cops are a falsehood.
 
Why must you have proof to answer a hypothetical question........ oh you don't have an answer so you are trying to wiggle your way out of it.

He must prove it's a real problem or he's complaining about about the OWS protesters for doing something they aren't actually doing. If he can prove OWS protesters are getting people fired, that's one thing. But making the claim that this is happening when it really isn't is pretty weak.
 
So you think that cops in Oakland are actually getting injured, they are just keeping it all a big secret or something? Why would they do that? Releasing that info to the press would have justified their actions. The mayor of Oakland might lose her job over this and you think she would keep that sort of thing secret even though releasing it is in her own best interest? I don't think so.

And you can read about pretty much every injured football player in the paper each week. Usually when cops get seriously injured in the line of duty, that gets in the paper too. Where is that info now? It doesn't exist because these "attacks" on the cops are a falsehood.

I am saying that the police come to the fight prepared. They have helmets and shields that deflect all the harassment. unless a cop gets shot you wont hear about it. They are similar to football players because they go in to battle with the right gear and they come out unharmed. Except the few...
 
Many “Occupy Wall Street” protesters arrested in New York City reside in more luxurious homes than some of their rhetoric might suggest, a Daily Caller investigation has found.
For each of the 984 Occupy Wall Street protesters arrested in New York City between September 18 and October 15, police collected and filed an information sheet recording the arrestee’s name, age, sex, criminal charge, home address and — in most cases — race. The Daily Caller has obtained all of this information from a source in the New York City government.
Among addresses for which information is available, single-family homes listed on those police intake forms have a median value of $305,000 — a far higher number than the $185,400 median value of owner-occupied housing units in the United States.
Some of the homes where “Occupy” arrestees reside, viewed through Google Maps and the Multiple Listing Service real estate database, are the definition of opulence.
Using county assessors and online resources such as Zillow.com, TheDC estimated property values and rents for 87 percent of the homes and 59 percent of the apartments listed in the arrest records.
Even in the nation’s currently depressed housing market, at least 95 of the protesters’ residences are worth approximately $500,000 or more. (RELATED SLIDESHOW: Opulent homes of the ’99 percent’)
The median monthly rent for those living in apartments whose information is readily available is $1,850.
Of the 984 protesters arrested, at least 797 are white. The median age of “Occupy” protesters taken into custody is 27 years.
Ten demonstrators were arrested more than once. The vast majority of the arrests, it should be noted, were for nonviolent offenses.
The arrest intake documents show that arrestees came to New York from all over the country but particularly from the Northeast.
Criminal charges ranged from “loitering while wearing a mask” and “failure to move along” to “violent behavior” and other more serious charges such as “assault 2 [second-degree assault] caus[ing] physical injury to police [or] firemen.” There was also one charge of “sex abuse 3 [third-degree].” Hundreds were arrested on October 1 for obstructing traffic on the Brooklyn Bridge.
While it would not be fair to conclude that the arrested protesters are fully representative of a movement that is not completely understood, this information forms the most complete snapshot yet of the demonstrations’ more militant participants.
It also reinforces the persistent critique of protesters as entitled, upper-class agitators with few legitimate grievances.
London’s Daily Mail newspaper, for example, recently highlighted signs of wealth among the throngs in Zuccotti Park.
“Sleeping beside the hardcore activists are increasing numbers of wealthy students turning up to make the most of the party atmosphere, drugs and free food,” reporters Paul Bentley and Micela McLucas wrote in October. “While they dress down to blend in, the youngsters’ privileged backgrounds are revealed by glimpses of expensive gadgetry or the absent minded mention of their private schools during heated political debates.”
“I think that it’s accurate to say that our supporters come from all backgrounds,” Patrick Bruner, the operator of OccupyWallStreet.org, a website dedicated to help organize and spread information about the protests, told TheDC when asked about participants from wealthier backgrounds. “That said, a (non-random) survey on our site revealed that our visitors literally are the 99% in regards to economic realities.”
The national median home value of $185,400 reflects U.S. Census statistics from the years 2005 through 2009, the last year data were available.
TheDC was able to estimate home values and apartment rents for 659 of the 972 residences. Thirteen were in university dormitories; six were post office boxes; four were addresses in foreign countries. Many addresses proved to be nonexistent, and a few were not provided to police.
TheDC has elected not to publish personally identifying information.


Heard this on the radio today: http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/02/n...occupy-wall-street-protesters-live-in-luxury/
 
Tonight in Oakland a brand new Mercedes annoyed with the protesters decided to gun it and intentionally drive into one protester. But that wasn't enough blood for him so he then threw it into reverse and back into another protester. Both protesters are now in the hospital. The police questioned the driver and then let him go with charges. The national media has decided that this isn't news but Lindsey Lohan's court hearing is.

Murder is now legal in Oakland as long as you're doing it on behalf of the 1%.

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