Mars vs Timber Grow Lights

innerG said:

This forum is nothing but FUD when it comes to LEDs

I’ve grown good bud under all kinds of them, Spectrum King, Optic LED and even a cheapo Viparspectra.

You get what you pay for but you can grow some good bud with any of them if you know what you’re doing. More $ gets you more coverage and features like spectrum control, dimming, build quality, etc. Many people advocate building you own which is a good bang for the buck, but you have to understand that there are no warranties and few of those are weather-sealed.

Go on YouTube and watch some PAR tests/reviews/grows if you want to get a good idea how different lights stack up.

Here is some ‘shit’ I grew under a blurple Chinese LED, or maybe its ‘crap’:
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I feel you bro, so many trolls that never grown anything here, they are just bored and with too many free time, just look up my thread, trying to help ppl and cunts show up to help nothing at all and just post shit and then the damn threads are huge so no one can find the info they need. Nice bud by the way!

GroErr said:

You'll get along just fine in here, enjoy your temporary stay...

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Cunt, do you mind to stop crying? Are you 10 years old or some shit? do you even have aything better to do? I used mars and its part of my experience and point of comparison, you havent said anything smart or important at all, "enjoy ur temporary stay" lol fucking asshole this is roll it up a damn forum, who cares about you, maybe in real life you are no one and you care so much about this site cos of that, sorry about u. Troll and loser.

My Name is Mike said:

Yeah, I'm calling you a fucking liar. I literally emailed @RainDan from Timber less than 24 hours ago with a few intensity and distance questions from a kit I purchased well over a month ago that I'm just now getting going. He replied in detail without any type of negative attitude or bullshit response. Not to mention a phone conversation that lasted more than 20 mins prior to my purchase that addressed all the dumb questions I had. I went through Timber because of that attention to detail.

Also, never had any heat issues with my LED setup. You have zero credibility to me. I'll ignore the rest of the bullshit that spewed from your mouth.

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Why not ignore from the start and shut up then mate? You are not smart enough to get a full reply from me anyway, learn to read, bye.

This shit is too anoying, so good luck anyone looking for info, ppl like this fucks any help anyone try to share. I dont care if some of you dont know how to use a light and couldnt get results with mars, I did, great results, the light had problems after year and a half, thats no good, but it was cheap and I got replacements in a week, they say congrats to me in my birthday, I dont need to ask cos they will sent info that think I could need, I had them on fb, skype and email, great customer on my experience. Timber Grow LIght is looking solid so far, plants are growing nice and the light looks like it will last, if not I will let ppl know but so far I like it a lot, customer support is not bad, I never said anything about attitude or anything like that, but I have a bachelor degree on the area and I can tell is not good compared to many other companies and they could go an extra mile easily, as simple as after the purchase I never heard from them again at all.

So you can ban me or close the thread I dont care its fucking roll it up, nothing else than a forum. Bye everyone thanks to the trolls for fucking anything up. Next time smoke some weed, chill and ask, but I am sure you guys dont know shit about growing weed, we are not so many lucky ones to live in a country where is legal to grow it.

BYE!

Without pictures, your thread SUCKS...

GroErr said:

This is a new member posting for the first time and flogging MARS shit, or is it crap, oh wait, it's both!

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Flogging Mars? He said it's doing a good job in veg AND customer service has been insanely good I smell a troll

Of course disaster awaits

We'll see what he has to say about customer service then lol

Lebowskijoe420 said:

Cunt, do you mind to stop crying? Are you 10 years old or some shit? do you even have aything better to do? I used mars and its part of my experience and point of comparison, you havent said anything smart or important at all, "enjoy ur temporary stay" lol fucking asshole this is roll it up a damn forum, who cares about you, maybe in real life you are no one and you care so much about this site cos of that, sorry about u. Troll and loser.

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Lol, who's crying? I'm laughing at you making an ass of yourself with a brand new account, spewing crap on every post about shit products that I debunked 5 years ago. With your attitude and lack of social skills you'll either be banned or just get tired of fighting with people here and go back to Facebook or wherever you came from.
Enjoy your Mars toy and their great customer service

Lebowskijoe420 said:

Thanks for the post Dan, first I am sorry it was not exactly look it up on forums but on look it up on youtube, I call this bad customer support because I am an advertiser and comparing to what mars offered on support its a huge gap (and I mean huge, not a mean comment just honest), also I did not get instructions on the light at all, had to look it up on youtube.

"No problem – I have just sent the PayPal invoice to that email address per your request.



I do not have a video, but there are numerous ones on line that people have made on YouTube. We also include written instructions, although it is fairly self-explanatory.



The kit you are purchasing will be about as effective (PAR wattage output) as a 600 W HPS SE light.



I hope this helps.



Regards"

Thanks for posting here thou, I appreciate it and will update about how its going, hope its awesome and so far is going good.

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Its possible that Dan or one of his stoner buddies forgot about the conversation... we are talking about potheads with memory loss right? i forget where my car keys are sometimes, so i think its possible Dan (or his buddies) forgot his conversation. lol

GroErr said:

Lol, who's crying? I'm laughing at you making an ass of yourself with a brand new account, spewing crap on every post about shit products that I debunked 5 years ago. With your attitude and lack of social skills you'll either be banned or just get tired of fighting with people here and go back to Facebook or wherever you came from.
Enjoy your Mars toy and their great customer service

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Live and let live man. Stop reporting people. Just go smoke one.

Uh oh @RainDan you have been challenged, Biglilboy or whatever prefers this type of customer service.... what can you do to out shine this? It seems all it takes is someone dressed up in a onesie to win this poor lad over.

GroErr said:

shit products that I debunked 5 years ago.

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I know people IRL who have grown good weed with mars lights

Never seen a DIY light in person. The vast majority of people just want to click ‘buy it now’ on Amazon, and a Mars (or other cheap blurple) light will grow decent bud. I’m not sure how big the market is for people wanting to pay more and do wiring themselves. If people want to spend more $ on better LEDs, they’ll probably get a Spectrum King or Electric Sky-type of setup.

If you say the Mars light don’t grow decent buds then idk wtf is wrong, because I personally know total noobs who flowered out clones from a dispensary in soil with blurples and got good results. I saw the grows myself. I also have grown with a similar light to Mars (Viparspectra).

This forum is full of shills and people trying to pawn off bad growing techniques and hardware. I encourage anyone looking at LEDs to do more research on other websites before making a decision.

innerG said:

I know people IRL who have grown good weed with mars lights

Never seen a DIY light in person. The vast majority of people just want to click ‘buy it now’ on Amazon, and a Mars (or other cheap blurple) light will grow decent bud. I’m not sure how big the market is for people wanting to pay more and do wiring themselves. If people want to spend more $ on better LEDs, they’ll probably get a Spectrum King or Electric Sky-type of setup.

If you say the Mars light don’t grow decent buds then idk wtf is wrong, because I personally know total noobs who flowered out clones from a dispensary in soil with blurples and got good results. I saw the grows myself. I also have grown with a similar light to Mars (Viparspectra).

This forum is full of shills and people trying to pawn off bad growing techniques and hardware. I encourage anyone looking at LEDs to do more research on other websites before making a decision.

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Try suing MARS when your eye sight fails from looking at blurple for months at a time

FACT: long ago doctors stopped trying to get their patients to change their diets, because all their patients want/wanted is a pill. enter big pharma whose products mask the symptom, never affecting the cause

Hey They Throw 1 Hellva BBQ Party. Just Saying

Lebowskijoe420 said:

The timber looks better made and hope will last but the customer support was really bad, they wouldnt even tell me the hanging distances, only got this reply "look it up on forums"

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I have trouble believing this. I've dealt with Timber on several occasions, and they've gone out of their way to help me with questions, issues, etc.

Lebowskijoe420 said:

I call this bad customer support because I am an advertiser

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It doesn't say "advertiser" under your name.

Lebowskijoe420 said:

Why not ignore from the start and shut up then mate? You are not smart enough to get a full reply from me anyway, learn to read, bye.

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No. People are calling bullshit on you. You're attempting to trash what most here consider to be a reputable company.

Lebowskijoe420 said:

I never said anything about attitude or anything like that, but I have a bachelor degree on the area and I can tell is not good

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Ghost of Davy Jones said:

Its possible that Dan or one of his stoner buddies forgot about the conversation... we are talking about potheads with memory loss right?

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Stereotype much?

They are a team of techs who previously did repair on high end electronics.

Ghost of Davy Jones said:

Live and let live man. Stop reporting people. Just go smoke one.

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He didn't report anybody.

Lebowskijoe420 said:

Thanks for the post Dan, first I am sorry it was not exactly look it up on forums but on look it up on youtube, I call this bad customer support because I am an advertiser and comparing to what mars offered on support its a huge gap (and I mean huge, not a mean comment just honest), also I did not get instructions on the light at all, had to look it up on youtube.

"No problem – I have just sent the PayPal invoice to that email address per your request.



I do not have a video, but there are numerous ones on line that people have made on YouTube. We also include written instructions, although it is fairly self-explanatory.



The kit you are purchasing will be about as effective (PAR wattage output) as a 600 W HPS SE light.



I hope this helps.



Regards"

Thanks for posting here thou, I appreciate it and will update about how its going, hope its awesome and so far is going good.

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You have no context on his statement
, He said his lights come with included written instructions, although it is fairly self-explanatory

What wasn't clear?
What are you asking for? A personalized video on how to set up your lights?
I quit managing retail because of people like you.
Cheers
CCG