maximum yield from one plant

st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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The focus should be grams per watt, not grams per plant.

It doesn't matter if you grow one big plant under a light, or 4 smaller ones, your yield is dependent upon how much light (lumens/lux) the plant(s) are receiving in that given footprint.
 
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Moneyplease

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New to all this, my grow is 6 autoflowering plants(3 dif. strains) What is max. possible yield grown in soil under a 400w hid light? It's a flowering light so I went and bought a t5 8bulb light and switched them on during veg. But anyways back on topic, how can I achieve biggest yield? and what method should I use(I've already tried super cropping one of them)

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In 5 gal buckets with foxfarm soil.
Haven't hit it with any nutes yet due to transplanting to better soil(foxfarm, from reg soil)
 
ScoobyDoobyDoo

ScoobyDoobyDoo

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Moneyplease said:
New to all this, my grow is 6 autoflowering plants(3 dif. strains) What is max. possible yield grown in soil under a 400w hid light? It's a flowering light so I went and bought a t5 8bulb light and switched them on during veg. But anyways back on topic, how can I achieve biggest yield? and what method should I use(I've already tried super cropping one of them)

additional info:
In 5 gal buckets with foxfarm soil.
Haven't hit it with any nutes yet due to transplanting to better soil(foxfarm, from reg soil)
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you need to play with you nutes and try and push your plants ppm intake. it takes time to max out yields. from what i have seen the highest yielding horizontal lighting method is SOG. then SCROG. if you don't want that many plants or to deal with a net then just TOP and LST and get a tomato cage.

if you really are looking to max out yield on your bulb then look into vertical coliseum grows. you can pull well over 2gpw on those if your plants are dialed in.
 
bowlfullofbliss

bowlfullofbliss

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Yup, a dialed in indoor grow can yield 1 gram per watt. I manage to get about 1.25 on certain strains, but getting the kind of yield you're talking about is not practical. If you want to train plants and veg for months and months you could pull it off, but you'll need thousands of watts of HID lights, no cfl crap, co2, and all the right gear.
 
bowlfullofbliss

bowlfullofbliss

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ScoobyDoobyDoo said:
you need to play with you nutes and try and push your plants ppm intake. it takes time to max out yields. from what i have seen the highest yielding horizontal lighting method is SOG. then SCROG. if you don't want that many plants or to deal with a net then just TOP and LST and get a tomato cage.

if you really are looking to max out yield on your bulb then look into vertical coliseum grows. you can pull well over 2gpw on those if your plants are dialed in.
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Sorry Scooby, but pulling 2 grams/watt indoors is a pipe dream bro. You'd get one harvest a year trying to veg a plant big enough for all that. Shooting for .5 to .75 for a learning grower is a realistic goal if they drop the coin and get the right gear.
 
ScoobyDoobyDoo

ScoobyDoobyDoo

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bowlfullofbliss said:
Sorry Scooby, but pulling 2 grams/watt indoors is a pipe dream bro. You'd get one harvest a year trying to veg a plant big enough for all that. Shooting for .5 to .75 for a learning grower is a realistic goal if they drop the coin and get the right gear.
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you don't need to do anything particularly special to a plant to get 1gpw. just run the right strain and keep them healthy. plenty of guys running SOG tables and getting 1gpw.

2gpw is not a pipe dream and actually doesn't require you to veg plants for that long. i've seen 2.25gpw on a single 600w bulb. you need to pay attention to the "vertical coliseum" words in my post.
 
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Moneyplease

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Thanks for the responses. One more question, realistically what would the final dry yield be having 6-7 plants under a 400w hid? With only veg. for about a month period. I am starting to understand the whole GPW.
 
ScoobyDoobyDoo

ScoobyDoobyDoo

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realistically you aren't going to be able to fit 6-7 plants under a 400w that have been vegged for 1 month. 400w has a footprint of like 2.5x2.5' either veg less or do less plants. if you are gonna veg for a monht you might be able to squeeze 4 plants under there.
 
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lighting

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the best i got per 1000 watt is 1.16 grams per watt 1160 dry grams per light foot print with 41 days veg i have done SOG's with min of 5 weeks veg 5000 watts and got a disappointing results
You got to realize sogs are really not that effiecient compared to scrogs meaning you only really get to harvest top half of plant all other popcorn buds are shake at the end of the day so your really harvesting 1/2 a plant where as a scrog you can train your canopy to produce more per meter
 

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lighting

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ScoobyDoobyDoo said:
realistically you aren't going to be able to fit 6-7 plants under a 400w that have been vegged for 1 month. 400w has a footprint of like 2.5x2.5' either veg less or do less plants. if you are gonna veg for a monht you might be able to squeeze 4 plants under there.
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why not here i got 5 plants vegged with 175 watts of flourescents since they were clones 3" tall i think they are 8 weeks veg now or close to it do they look like they are lacking in anything ???
 

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top distinction. it is just a bush, trim in the right spots and itll really go a long way. look good tho still for sure, nice n healthy looking
 
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kermit2692

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Trich Fiend said:
i'll add that to the list of reasons i don't live in canada...(really cold, don't like hockey, mandatory minimums, etc...) :-P
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lol dont like hockey!?! why on earth would someone not like the only sport that almost guarantees you get to watch a fight every game, give it a chance once go to a game and learn the rules its actually a very interesting fun sport to watch...and btw we have mandatory minimums in the states too man
 
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kermit2692

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you may yield a bit less per plant but ive run 5 under a 400 before...wound up with an average of 1.5 zips per plant however this was my first time going all organic, also i only let them get to about 14 inches before i flowered them
 
ScoobyDoobyDoo

ScoobyDoobyDoo

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lighting said:
the best i got per 1000 watt is 1.16 grams per watt 1160 dry grams per light foot print with 41 days veg i have done SOG's with min of 5 weeks veg 5000 watts and got a disappointing results
You got to realize sogs are really not that effiecient compared to scrogs meaning you only really get to harvest top half of plant all other popcorn buds are shake at the end of the day so your really harvesting 1/2 a plant where as a scrog you can train your canopy to produce more per meter
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i've never heard of a true SOG grow where someone vegged for 5 weeks. i veg trees for 5-7 weeks. also, true SOG grows don't have a bunch of popcorn. you are growing 1 main cola and that's it really.
 
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ScoobyDoobyDoo

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lighting said:
why not here i got 5 plants vegged with 175 watts of flourescents since they were clones 3" tall i think they are 8 weeks veg now or close to it do they look like they are lacking in anything ???
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try flowering all 5 of those plants under a single 400w light and see what your yield will be. you won't be able to fit them under a 400w light.
 
ScoobyDoobyDoo

ScoobyDoobyDoo

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Moneyplease said:
So I should be safe doing 5-6? under 400w HID
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depends on the size of your plants bro. if you veg them for 2-3 weeks then probably yea. if you veg them for 6 weeks and they are really bushy then no way. think about it. the larger the plant is in veg the larger it will get in flower. also the taller it will get. 400w light won't have the footprint or penetration to cover 6 plants that are 4-5' tall by the end of flower.
 
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