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I'm currently growing two landrace based strains. Malawi from Ace seeds, and Coastal Seeds, Columbian x American Skunk.
I just pollinated the Malawi I'm growing, with Sensi's Shiva Skunk, so that gives me two strains with short genetic trees.
My goal for awhile now, has been to "get back to basics". Simple two way crosses, from landraces, or "anchor" strains. I loved the strains from the 80s-90s when breeding was hot in Amsterdam and No California! Lots of those guys in Cali, formed the breeders in Holland and viceversa back then.

Finding a nice phenotype and making an S1 is not breeding!

We are losing our Canibus roots, and our search for high THC is like drinking from a "Spodie" where everyone pours their liquor in.
Taking a phenotype from a genetic tree of 100s of strains, crossed with another phenotype from 100s of strains, is just creating an homogenized cannabis culture.

I can get high on 17-20% quality smoke with a great terpene profile, just as much as a 28% strain.
It's like the difference between drinking everclear, or a fine wine. You can get just as buzzed off both. Most these hybrids nowadays are so muddled, I can barely tell the difference. I'm not saying I don't love some of the new strains, I'm saying the genetics has ALWAYS been there, but is getting harder and harder to sort out.
I am going to drop the Burmese IBL next.

I collect a lot of older, "anchor" strains. I like the classics and their potential for breeding. Even Swerve, at Cali Conn had some great, Cannibus Cup winners. I have a few of those, like SFV OG, Boss Hogg, Tahoe OG, etc...
I like Bodhi gear because they are a lot of F1s and show variation, so sorting them out is fun.
I like the nostalgia of the old classics, (I'm 62 and smoked them), and the terpene profiles seemed so distinct. I remember Thai sticks in the 80s, and the earthy, spicey, pepper, cinnamon type flavor. I can't describe it, but haven't smelled anything like it in years.
I remember my first Afghan indica, stinking up the car so bad, after I scored an 1/8th, and I drove home with the windows down!
I'm hoping to find, and re-vitalize some of these old classics, and maybe make a few of my own, with some landraces.
Malawi x Shiva Skunk is my first batch!

MeOhMyOhio said:

I collect a lot of older, "anchor" strains. I like the classics and their potential for breeding. Even Swerve, at Cali Conn had some great, Cannibus Cup winners. I have a few of those, like SFV OG, Boss Hogg, Tahoe OG, etc...
I like Bodhi gear because they are a lot of F1s and show variation, so sorting them out is fun.
I like the nostalgia of the old classics, (I'm 62 and smoked them), and the terpene profiles seemed so distinct. I remember Thai sticks in the 80s, and the earthy, spicey, pepper, cinnamon type flavor. I can't describe it, but haven't smelled anything like it in years.
I remember my first Afghan indica, stinking up the car so bad, after I scored an 1/8th, and I drove home with the windows down!
I'm hoping to find, and re-vitalize some of these old classics, and maybe make a few of my own, with some landraces.
Malawi x Shiva Skunk is my first batch!

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@MeOhMyOhio that's DEEP. Hell, I'm just trying to get my first grow since the early 80's to the finish line without killing them. Sure nice to see the guys and gals who are now working on these types of issues to embrace the new while still searching for the O.G. .

That f1 your making is going to be amazing. Sensi seeds has great old school genetics.

Where did you get the sfv og? Ive been developing one strain for several years now. It is mtf x sfv og.

Farmer's Hat said:

That f1 your making is going to be amazing. Sensi seeds has great old school genetics.

Where did you get the sfv og? Ive been developing one strain for several years now. It is mtf x sfv og.

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If that's Matanuska Thunderfuck x SFV OG, that's EXACTLY what I'm talking about!
That sounds amazing! I'll trade you some beans when mine are ready!

I haven't dropped them yet, but I have some SFV OG I got in 2014, from Calli Connections.
For all the shit people gave Swerve years ago, many of his strains won several awards.

I use Sensi seeds a lot. Their genetics are very stable and old school. Many are F4s and IBLs. Decades of breeding and staying in business, says a lot.

MeOhMyOhio said:

If that's Matanuska Thunderfuck x SFV OG, that's EXACTLY what I'm talking about!
That sounds amazing! I'll trade you some beans when mine are ready!

I haven't dropped them yet, but I have some SFV OG I got in 2014, from Calli Connections.
For all the shit people gave Swerve years ago, many of his strains won several awards.

I use Sensi seeds a lot. Their genetics are very stable and old school. Many are F4s and IBLs. Decades of breeding and staying in business, says a lot.

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Happy to trade some beans, around mid October. F4 seeds are finishing up.
I crossed the Matanuska with a male SFV OG because both strains performed phenomenal out here in the PNW. Ive grown them indoors, outdoors, and greenhouse.

I made at least a dozen of f1 hybrids with big bud, white widow, skunk #1, early skunk, silver haze, all from sensi seeds. They were all great for indoor, but the only cross that did well in a greenhouse was the Silver Haze. Unfortunately I lost those seeds due to bad storage. Im planning to get some more silver haze seeds and cross it with the strain im working on.

Farmer's Hat said:

Happy to trade some beans, around mid October. F4 seeds are finishing up.
I crossed the Matanuska with a male SFV OG because both strains performed phenomenal out here in the PNW. Ive grown them indoors, outdoors, and greenhouse.

I made at least a dozen of f1 hybrids with big bud, white widow, skunk #1, early skunk, silver haze, all from sensi seeds. They were all great for indoor, but the only cross that did well in a greenhouse was the Silver Haze. Unfortunately I lost those seeds due to bad storage. Im planning to get some more silver haze seeds and cross it with the strain im working on.

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Those all sound great! That Sensi stock is the old school building blocks of a lot of todays phenotypes. Keep up the good work. That's my type of breeding! A genetic tree with only a few branches.

This is the Malawi girl, out of the tent. She is spending the night in the closet away from the tent for the night. I'll mist the branch with water in the morning, and put her back in the tent.
She has been flowering for 8 weeks now, but keeps swelling and swelling. I started flowering it at 3 weeks in veg. It stretched 5 times its height. The Shiva Skunk male I used was a stout, bushy, tight one. I'm hoping together it makes a strong hybrid, that finishes in 10 weeks or so.

Farmer's Hat said:

Happy to trade some beans, around mid October. F4 seeds are finishing up.
I crossed the Matanuska with a male SFV OG because both strains performed phenomenal out here in the PNW. Ive grown them indoors, outdoors, and greenhouse.

I made at least a dozen of f1 hybrids with big bud, white widow, skunk #1, early skunk, silver haze, all from sensi seeds. They were all great for indoor, but the only cross that did well in a greenhouse was the Silver Haze. Unfortunately I lost those seeds due to bad storage. Im planning to get some more silver haze seeds and cross it with the strain im working on.

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That's a pregnant calyx! I'm hoping to see some of those in a month or so!
The white pistils are browning and curling in on the branch I brushed. I'm sure the pollen took. Now it's a waiting game.
The feeling of growing something you made yourself is very rewarding. Spending years refining and making filial generations is even more rewarding! Keep up the great work.