MEDIDEDICATED

Next chapter to my hash studies. Hash will smile in your face and dissapear when going to harvest it. Then realize why and look back like you sneaky son gun.. Was there the whole time. So my drying is david blaining the hash a few percent or more who knows each time I did that how much.

60/60 your herbs hash makers! The last time I figured out how to raise yoeld was hand trimming. 60/60 and hand trim ya herbs! This increased yield by 2%. Same clone literally the same cut. Was 17% but could of been 19%. So I definatly not lose my pheno yet. The color is way better too.

Have you tried fresh frozen hash rosin? Saves trimming and drying. Just gotta find a good strain to wash and a freeze dryer.

MooseTheGoose said:

Have you tried fresh frozen hash rosin? Saves trimming and drying. Just gotta find a good strain to wash and a freeze dryer.

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I know all about it but its tough enough making my goals as is with flower rosin. I dont mind the trimming I just do a rough growers trim real fast. Minimal agitation from plant to the press. It dont make sense to go that route if Im happy wnough which I am.

I made drysift rosin its a bit stronger and cleaner but I just need something to bite on. That gets me high and tastes ok. It would just be so much extra work when I was fine with flower rosin which is easy to come by.

That would just add a whole extra step with potential to lose yield. Flower rosin Its literally a whole beast in its own lane to study but at least its easier. The others are much harder.

medidedicated said:

I know all about it but its tough enough making my goals as is with flower rosin. I dont mind the trimming I just do a rough growers trim real fast. Minimal agitation from plant to the press. It dont make sense to go that route if Im happy wnough which I am.

I made drysift rosin its a bit stronger and cleaner but I just need something to bite on. That gets me high and tastes ok. It would just be so much extra work when I was fine with flower rosin which is easy to come by.

That would just add a whole extra step with potential to lose yield. Flower rosin Its literally a whole beast in its own lane to study but at least its easier. The others are much harder.

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Was just putting it out there. A good buddy of Mine started with flower rosin and the switch to fresh frozen saved him so much time and effort. Just pluck fan leaves buck buds into a bag, freeze, wash, put in the freeze dryer and press. It's definitely not without its risks. One of his first runs was a gorgeous white runtz flower. Did not wash for shit tho. Swear I saw a tear come to his eye when he washed a full room of it and didn't even get half a tray of heads. (He learned to do a test wash a couple days before harvest)

Just called it for this one. Few more days and will be all red haired so can go when I feel like it. Thursday or saturday when I got nun goin on.

Apply 60/60 like I learned as this babycakes is caked with hash like always. Even when shes low it was probably my horrendous dry routene making it even worse.

Should be a lot of bud. Will start vegging right to pack tents in good make it a adrenaline rush again but with all tents full. I got all the clones lol.

Its gonna be a big jar of honey lol the most beautiful ever besides like one other time. Ounce wise. I got a new tent I think I figured it out. The missing component to grow. A dry space.

I told my fam 2x2 but its gonna have to be a 2x4 I made the space for it already within my own space I took up already. Thats my justification and position. Il tell them Il take it down when not in use but will just get them used to it.

I showed them what I showed yall and they were like damn ok. They understand I just lost 500$ or more easily in last two rounds not even full capacity. So this would actually help get to point of shutting down since lost genetics aint the issue.

I really chasing my tail wondering if to keep going and do a bunch of new strains/phenos last. Im a bit finacially strained and need to shut down soon or at least half of it which is possible. The damn portable ac 800w tho.

Just need to get to a position to shut down which is actually going well I got 7 months worth atm. After a couple runs Id be at like 12 months worth. Its gettin hard to make decisions.

I been spendin all my money on the grow for a year or more so having nothing just hurts. I could grow a couple packs of a couple phenos that grew well with my main pheno so I can graft.

Im gonna need a mother so one spot will be open for new phenos or just perpetuate and be one plant over. Plant count wise. So new uncompqtible phenos will just take up space but if I just had a certain amount.. I can just grow to top it off.

I want to get to that position. I want to also find keepers that would make this twice as easy and allow for unlimited use for what I can possibly dab. Well Im starting to hold more than I ever held at once like 150gs here soon after this plant harvested.

My most ever was like 115gs. After next harvest will be like 230gs. Thats why I just kept running the same thing had it not dissapoint me sometimes. Shit I should just take all cuts same pheno until Im ready to grow one run of 5 phenos maybe twice or just once, screw it. Then shut down.

Thats something to look forward too, Im pooped. Im racking up tons of experience tho.

Id say my first QP of dabs but I already had one Im pretty sure. I just couldnt get past that and would dab it to nothing almost just leave an oz. Im saving money making my own but to only be barely off from buying from store is crazy.

Just need to stop a moment evaluate things. So I pay equal monthly but Im jarring more I just need to accumilate which actually is happening. Just need to have faith in this pheno. I cant wait to find something better tho.

I guess just need to lay it out. I want to see the finacial benefit of this hobby to the full. I need something to work with that pays well or need to find that, but I have it. I want something better. It boils down to that. I keep chasing in that circle.

So just alleviate the first which is do able right now. End of runs do a 5 plant run once, maybe twice but Il be paying for it. I havent worked this pheno to the fullest and even still learning how to not lose yield, idk what else there is to know, I screwed something up purposely and switch it back basically.

So Im still getting ready to work with something better Im about ready. Im otherwise losing on opprtunity to work this pheno and get what I know I can first. Which can be 15-20% 17% average. Thats about as good as it gets before its unicorn status.

It really does make the calculator go crazy estimating yield. A good run like that and it really could equate to real life yield. But by then Im not stressing about one more thing. I would be in a better position to invest. Not as frantic and overlooking things like making things work in the first place.

Like getting over the general goal of seeing actual money return first even tho I did save thousands. Even tho buyung equipment and energy costs. When its all turned off thats when Il start to smile financially like dropping a bad habbit. I didnt have to tho baby!

Was about to repeat myself but I said it well enough. Just add that harvest wise sure I know how to keep the yield. But if I dont get that 7-8oz, or full 20% or both, same thing can happen with new pheno. Need to know how to work the ins and outs of the pheno and always get that yield.

Maybe it dont work like that, to just get a unicorn and always yield 30% and lots of bud same amount each time. Il look for it but never know what issues that pheno will give you that I take this one for granted. Or simply also have. Just opens the risks of making slow progress on all goals.

They can sound good on paper like they say. In actuality tho. So might as well accomplish what I should be able to first. Just prioritize.

Was trying to say that I dont want another similar performing pheno which I think I have a good amount of hiding in there somewhere. To use when I need to restart. Then when Im able to, run a whole pack back to back or all at once if possible. Of what I think will be the unicorn.

Thats what I mean by prioritize. I was gonna make a new journal to do that then thought about it some. When I hunt Il run all seeds of the packs I think could be unicorns. Sometimes might have to pull a freebie and see what the mystery bean will produce.

You might see a subpar pheno online looking for what the freebie might be. But theres always that genetic lottery that it could just become something killer that you didnt see photos of online anywhere. Other qualities too.

I guess Im just really really considering options as before I had spots open so why not flip beans. Now its time to really choose so I decided that. Just finish my first goal.

As usual ec in 1.7 ec out 1.77 ph in 6.0 ph out 5.8 maybe 5.7. Clean roots looks more abundant but that not equate to more yield even tho extra 2 wk veg. So not lost pheno but enviorment and performance, got to crack the code if I want 8oz as thats just the most she does.

For sure gots to be some loss of vigor just not a problem but a well broken in clone.

Setup dry space just needed a drop cloth plastic sheet to isolate the 25sq ft area get the humidity low enough for wet bud. Dont want it much passed 60rh if at all. 63F in there right now usually drops even more over night.

Veggie or not, here I grow! Next round movin upstairs this weekend. Maybe let em veg a week longer. Trunks looking thin but maybe enviormental. 60-70F night and day. Could just been some wear on the pheno idk. Heres where I add important notes I refer to later and probably missing a few.

This time they got the bags on em from beginning so less dryback in the drybacks. Fabric pots growing little beards. Keeps em humid. Feels like I got to fight for the 7-8oz rather than no regard for veg issues enviormental.

Well I figured out how to make a dry space, with drop cloth. I should figure out something for veg area I think my stoney idea I once asked if would work might work. Basically same thing, make a sealed off drop clothed area with small space heater and have the one open intake vent suck that warm air in.

Working on my 6th perpetual run with this watermelon ultra as clones. Since one was lost to mold I dont count that run. So my first run was 14oz in a tent, then possibly. 16oz but half of it died suddenly. From root rot from bugs as that never happened again since I mastered that by 3rd run. The real 3rd run molded anyway and probably was gonna do that.

I find it hard to consume something like that so I was tossing the dead parts and keeping the good. I wouldnt do that either but only out of snobbyness since I know I can do better. No one can say exactly why thats trash but its less risky than consuming budrot spores which people do anyway.

Anywho what Im getting at is Im starting to track veg time since something might be needed there attention detail wise. Hell I just back tracked the first one the 7oz clones were 7 wk veg. That was the first run so it had that vigor first gen clones.

Then 10 wks did an acceptable 7 oz each and one did just under 8oz in the 3x3 same veg time. Then I did 9wks and lost a lot in one tent was 5.5oz clones. One was close to 7oz and this 3x3 that vegged 11wks idk the numbers yet but looking like a fat 7oz probably 7.25 or 7.5oz max but I didnt weigh it yet its drying.

So thats all over the place bud yield wise but aiming for 10wk veg sounds reasonable. They will grow into the flower tents 80F so should give them a boost vs 60-70F. More space to signal to plant to grow out. Feed 6x a day so buckets due to refill every 2 days so they dont expire. Meant to last 24hrs then throw excess in veg reservoirs in cool basement to last much longer.

I will move 2 clones this weekend to veg two wks longer in vivosun 2.5x5. Then the jellysickle to be chopped next saturday and two clones placed there to veg a week longer, also a clone placed in hydro crunch 2.5 tent. Flip those at 10 wks, then hold a clone back to veg two wks longer which will flip as 12 wk old clone.

That 3x3 clone right before flip will take cuts off it for the next run of 5 clones plus a 3x3 clone. The mother plant I have will make a cut for that 3x3 clone 2 wks later. I just thought what if I just take that 3x3 cut when I take the others which will be 8wk clones? But then it will be 10wk old veg clone when I want 12 wks since Im losing vigor having to write this up and bore yall.

All while maintaining this buffer that allows a smooth operation. They have 4 wk harvest window and veg clones wont be overstuffed with no where to go. Im gettin smooth and jiggy with it. So thats the line up plan, the 3x3 just allows for more yield and slack moving these clones around. Less turn around yearly but less headache too.

Another reason not to take the 3x3 next clone cut at flip off the 3x3 clone is Im not apllying that 2 wk buffer. So it will have a 8wk clone needing somewhere to go when I could have a 2 wk limper needing 12 wks to flower. Nothing worse than cutting a plant too early after all that work.

So take 3x3 replacement cut 2 wks after flip 3x3 clone from mother plant meant for flexibility and salvaging of runted clones. That could take 16 wks just to start growing.

Youd need to be a perpetual pro to follow all this so I will summerize my plan.

Flip 5 smaller clones, hold the 3x3 clone behind for two wks. Take 5 cuts off that then the 3x3 replacement from mother two wks after flipping the 3x3 clone. At the very worst, Il have a tent or two need 12 wks flower to finish but Il have open tents in flower room to scatter some veg clones.

So some clones can vigorously veg two wks longer in warm temps. This allows some gapping in the basement veg tent to allow clones to grow two wks bigger but with cooler temps. This should juice up my veg routene and keep yielding my 7 oz. So each dumbass bucket I fill daily I can tell myself is worth half a pound to a oz of rosin or more.

Its rare that they need more than 10 wls let alone 11 or 12 which never happened. If it does tho itll probably be one or two clones in one tent. Very doubtful it will happen to all tents. Something would be off as ever since I got em healthy its been the typical 8-10wks.

Its more for the ease of vegging and flexibility and to play out like I rambled and concluded. Even if they do tho Im kinda realizing it should be good. Theyd be 8 wks full and just now full in tent and 12 weeks given for all the smaller clones. I say smaller but theyre close to same as the 3x3 which simply has potential to be more.

I just need to add time to make them bigger in flower tents potentially. The vivosun 2.5x5 is pretty big and the baggy fabric that can be fluffed out with coat hangers.. Can tolerate big plants, the last clones were no match for it but they were smaller runty. Avoiding that thiis round.

Less turn over yearly but less headache.