Memo to Congress:

Dankdude

Well-Known Member
Fed up after watching the minimum wage stagnate at poverty level for nearly a decade, a growing number of states are introducing their own pay raises with cost-of-living adjustments. Congress should follow their lead.

Americans are divided about many things, but on at least one issue they stand united: During the past decade, polls have consistently shown that Americans overwhelmingly want Congress to raise the minimum wage. According to a report earlier this year from the Pew Research Center, 83 percent of the American public -- including 72 percent of Republicans and 75 percent of those who earn over $75,000 a year -- favor boosting it to more than $7 an hour. But, since 1997, Congress has refused to act, leaving the minimum wage stuck at $5.15 an hour.

Frustrated by Congress' intransigence, a growing number of states have made an end run around Washington. Before Election Day, 22 states had enacted laws -- by passing ballot measures or by legislative action -- to raise their minimum wages above the federal level.

On November 7, voters in another six states -- Arizona, Colorado, Missouri, Montana, Nevada and Ohio -- approved measures to raise state minimum wage levels by $1 to $1.70 an hour. But in each of these six states, voters took another important step. They agreed to increase the minimum wage each year by indexing it to inflation. Four other states -- Oregon, Florida, Washington and Vermont -- had already approved minimum wage laws that are not only higher than the federal level, but also include annual cost-of-living adjustments (COLAs). Washington State's minimum wage, now $7.63, is the nation's highest.

Nancy Pelosi, who will become Speaker of the House in January, has pledged to hike the federal minimum wage to $7.25 an hour as one of the Democrats' first acts after taking control of the House and Senate. This would give at least 6.6 million low-wage workers a direct pay increase; millions more will have their wages hiked because the floor has been raised.

But with the Democrats now in a stronger position in Congress, many union leaders and community groups want them to push not only to raise the federal minimum wage, but also to include a path-breaking cost of living adjustment, so that inflation doesn't continue to erode its purchasing power.

Since 1997, when Congress last raised the minimum wage, its buying power has declined by 20 percent. The federal minimum wage is now the lowest it's been since 1955 (in inflation-adjusted dollars). The highest during that period was in 1968, when it was worth almost $8 an hour in today's dollars. Progressive Democrats in Congress should up the ante and demand a minimum wage hike to at least the poverty level -- $20,000 a year, or $9.60 an hour -- with a COLA clause, too.

"Periodically adjusting the minimum wage to keep up with inflation just makes common sense," said John J. Sweeney, President of the AFL-CIO, a major proponent of hiking the wage.

"Whenever we have given them the chance, a large majority of voters -- including large numbers of Republican voters -- voted for minimum wage increases with indexing," said Maude Hurd, president of ACORN, the national community organizing group that has played a key role in many of the state-level minimum wage battles. "The President and Congress should follow their lead."

In November 2004, ACORN and several labor groups led a successful battle in Florida to raise the minimum wage by one dollar to $6.15 an hour and to increase it annually based on the consumer price index. There, where Bush beat John Kerry by 381,000 votes, voters favored the minimum wage increase by 3.1 million votes -- or 71.3 percent to 28.7 percent -- despite the opposition of the state's business community and Governor Jeb Bush.

ACORN and its union allies then looked for other key states in this year's races where they could not only win ballot measures to hike the minimum wage with a COLA provision but also target voter mobilization efforts to increase turnout among likely Democrats -- a liberal counterpart to conservative efforts to put anti-gay marriage measures on the ballot.

They identified six states with potentially close Senate, House or gubernatorial races.

In Missouri, Proposition B -- which will increase the state's minimum wage from the current federal base to $6.50 and index it to inflation -- garnered 76 percent of the statewide vote and won a majority in every county. It was supported by all age groups and income levels. Four-fifths of voters earning less than $50,000 supported raising the minimum wage, as did almost three-quarters of those earning over $50,000. In Montana, 73 percent of voters approved an initiative to raise the state minimum wage to $6.15 and require annual cost-of-living increases. The grassroots campaigns to hike the minimum wage increased voter turnout, especially in the cities, and helped Democrats Claire McCaskill and John Tester win close victories in Missouri and Montana, respectively, helping their party to a majority in the U.S. Senate.

After he was elected in 2002, one of Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich's first acts was to sign a bill to raise the state minimum wage from the federal level to $6.50. During his successful campaign for re-election this fall, Blagojevich, a Democrat, frequently pledged to hike it again. A week after his victory, he proposed and the state Senate approved an increase to $7.50 an hour with an annual inflation adjustment. This proposal now moves to the state House. If the Illinois House approves Blagojevich's plan, it will be only the second state -- after Vermont -- to raise the minimum wage with a COLA clause through the legislative, rather than ballot measure, route.

In 2004 and 2005, California's Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed bills passed by the Democrat-controlled legislature that would have raised the minimum wage by a dollar and included a cost-of-living adjustment. This year the Democrats approved legislation to raise the minimum wage from its current $6.75 an hour to $7.50 in January 2007 and $8 in January 2008 and include an indexing provision. Seeking to attract Democratic voters in his ultimately successful re-election bid, Schwarzenegger agreed in September to sign the bill if its sponsors eliminated the COLA clause.

"We had a choice -- give him an ideal bill that he would veto or get a dollar and a quarter per hour more for our workers," said Assembly Speaker Fabian Núñez, explaining why the Democrats accepted the deal. "We decided to side with doing the right thing for the poor people."

While business groups invariably oppose any proposal to raise the minimum wage, they are particularly adamant against incorporating a COLA provision. But linking increases to inflation is neither a new nor radical idea. Just last month President Bush signed legislation providing COLA to military veterans who receive disability benefits. Many union contracts require employers to give annual wage increases based on the consumer price index. The federal government already has a cost-of-living adjustment (based on the annual increase in consumer prices) for the 48 million seniors who receive Social Security. Indeed, this 1975 provision has kept many seniors from falling into poverty. Since then, seniors don't have to await a special act of Congress to receive a benefit increase; no longer does inflation drain value from their Social Security checks.

Since 1997, the last time they raised the minimum wage, the Republican-controlled Congress has voted to give members cost-of-living pay raises totaling $31,600. Corporations routinely provide their top executives with huge pay and bonus increases that far exceed the inflation rate, even in years when these companies' own profits and stock value decline. In one year alone, for example, the median pay for the CEOs of America's 100 largest companies increased 25 percent to $17.9 million in 2005.

What about the working poor?

Labor unions, anti-poverty community organizations and faith-based groups will be pushing Pelosi and her Democratic colleagues to take up the COLA cause when they take power in January. Shouldn't workers at the bottom end of the American economy -- who spend almost all of their hard-earned wages on basic necessities -- get an annual raise to help them keep up with the steadily rising cost of housing, food, gasoline, clothing and health care?
 

medicineman

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Great post, couldn't have said it better myself. Lets keep it real, everyone deserves a decent living if they are working for it!
 

medicineman

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Great post, couldn't have said it better myself. Lets keep it real, everyone deserves a decent living if they are working for it! Dankdude I think you and I are the only ones that found this interesting. I can't believe the libertarians didn't jump on this and call us commies for wanting a decent wage for the working poor, how dare we suggest such a thing. Wouldn't that mean the owners of the society would have to take a cut in pay? don't believe it for a minute. those greedy Stards will just raise the price of everything so the precious bottom line is protected! Again, great post, we slipped it by them!
 

Dankdude

Well-Known Member
I think you are right, Most bosses out there could care less how your living situation is, that is why any increase of the Minimum Wage is going to be fought tooth and nail. They would lose their slave labor.

Everyone says, the prices will go through the roof, hardly. Although in a restaurant you may have to pay a dollar more for that Steak your eating.
 

Wavels

Well-Known Member
The minimum wage is another example of the governmental deprivation of freedom!
Odious and counterproductive, as are most government meddlings!
"Most" bosses are not Ebenezer Scrooges....some indeed are jack balls, but most?
I disagree.
 

medicineman

New Member
"Most" bosses are not Ebenezer Scrooges....some indeed are jack balls, but most?
I disagree.
I think you haven't worked for many bosses, Most I've ever worked for,(there were 2 exceptions out of about 25) were more concerned with getting the job done than the workers welfare, and that means in the most expediant way possible, not necessarily the safest. And the owners I've worked for were downright greedy. I never got a check that overpaid me but I've got several that underpaid me and I had to fight to get my due. There were a couple of downright great bosses, and I worked my ass off for them and never complained if i missed an hours pay. It's all about attitude. If a boss can stay positive and motivate employees by example rather than words, then the employee-boss thing can be beautiful. The odds are against it as the bosses bosses are usually assholes. Pretty much, IMO you have to be an asshole to get to be a boss! Here I must explain that I was never a slacker, I always tried to give a days work for a days pay. I have observed many slackers on the job, and for them I offer no excuse. They should have been fired. Slackers make it hard on the real workers in a team situation!
 

bigballin007

New Member
Does anyone truly see the impacts of enacting laws with out first analyzing the effects that they have on our communities and people's families.

I believe the government has gotten away from the whole idea of how to be an American.
The government has taken a role to protect us but at the same time they are invading our personal freedoms. They want to step in to the middle of every financial aspect of a persons life, yet avoid family issues that they have nothing to gain from.

The recent news concerning swift concerns me. I believe if all of these people were paying taxes and abiding by the laws, other than using their real names then they should be allowed to obtain legal status. They want nothing more than a job and hope and they found it here yet the government choses to give them the boot. These people should have the opportunity to at least have a chance of staying here.

Do we really want to seal our borders and act as if it will stop them come on get real! Everyone knows where theres a will theres a way! I believe this is going to make some people act more violent to wards us.

Any and all laws, no matter how little the States think it is, needs to be well thought out and equally and fair to everyone. Laws enacted today are causing criminal acts and I see an epidemic heading our way.

The war on drugs is absolutely worthless and a complete waste of tax dollars. What is to gain other than money and keeping people in poverty is there from these laws?

If we were any more spied on by our government they would know every time I sat on my toilet and took a dump. Is there not a line somewhere?

Change needs to happen real soon or there will be no turning back and I believe that the war we are in will turn into WWW3 as it is in it's early stages of beginning now.
 

medicineman

New Member
What you are saying in essence is to let any foriegner that needs a Job come into our country and take a job for peanuts,
that used to be a good paying job for American citizens. Those meat packers used to get 19.00 an hour and now the illegals are getting 7-10 an hour. If you bring in the Bangladeshians, we could cut it to 1.00 an hour and the Mexicans would starve. Basically you are saying, lets make this a third world country where everyone in the labor market competes on a world average pay scale. Boy, the corporations would love your plan. The problem with your plan is that no-one in America wiuld be able to pay their mortgages and the housing market would collapse along with the retail markets as no-one could afford to buy any of the goods on a dollar an hour. There are circumstances to opening our borders, most of which favor corporations. Thats why nothing is being done about it. Let those illegals go back to their countries and make it work for them. We don't owe the world a living!
 

bigballin007

New Member
Yeah kinda like the white man since this is not our land in the first place then the true Indians need to boot the white man out too huh. It is people like you that have made this country into a future war zone. Everyone here in this country thinks that they own this land, that piece of property, well you don't own shit in reality. I'm not saying let anyone in, just everyone deserves a chance at life and a job and hope.
As far as your stupid remark about not being able to pay your bills cause they would lower the wages for the average Joe is a bunch of Bullshit. Have you looked around for a good paying lately? Where are they at cause they sure the hell are not around here in the first place. Our economy needs people to make less money so prices of goods and services return to a lower rate. How long can a buck be worth 40 cents? Now more than ever the line between being dirt poor or flat out rich is vast. There is no middle class , you either have it or you don't.
These are human beings and they deserve to be treated like a human instead of out casted to the side because you fear it will lower your wages! Greedy bastard! These people have a huge impact on the reason why some goods are able to be obtained at a reasonable cost to the consumer.
If we move them all out who is gonna do their jobs for the same wages, are you? They are going to have to hire new employees $20.00 an hour and all of a sudden you think everything will be fine. Prices will triple! The poor here in our country will not be able to even afford a loaf of bread with your plan!
I hear you argument before it even comes.( everyone will have higher paying jobs) You could not be more wrong. There will always be poor people for one reason or another, health is a major reason! Now the retired who are barfly even making it how can they adjust to higher prices when their on a fixed income? Disabled citizens receive approx. $600.00 a month what is that going to do to them?
The whole idea is because of greed and the USA being scared!
Wake up people look at the big picture and understand that people need to help each other and work for a common goal instead of the separation that is going on and invoking world violence.
 

medicineman

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far as your stupid remark about not being able to pay your bills cause they would lower the wages for the average Joe is a bunch of Bullshit. Have you looked around for a good paying lately? Where are they at cause they sure the hell are not around here in the first place. Our economy needs people to make less money so prices of goods and services return to a lower rate. How long can a buck be worth 40 cents? I believe this to be the most ignorant post I've ever read. You've just completed my theory on why there are no good paying jobs. Outsourcing and the influx of cheap labor. Are you blind. The gist of my post was the fact there are no more good paying jobs for the middle class because of the above reasons. I'd like to know how you propose for the homeowners with 1200-2500 mortgage payments will pay for their houses on 7.00 an hour, for that is what the corporations would like to see. I'm saying the illegals have been and are bringing wages down and prices are not dwindling. Let's start with one fact: Illegal! If they come through legal immigration ways, I'm all for them. If they sneak accross our border, then back they go. Don't try that "we stole the land from the Indians" Bullshit, it doesn't compare to this. Maybe we should start with you, would you like to cut your wages, maybe you could survive on 7.00 an hour, I doubt it. What you want is for everyone else to get their wages cut so prices will come down and you can buy more stuff. I think you qualify in the greedy prick arena!
 

bigballin007

New Member
LMAO I by far am greedy. LOL I want nothing more than people to get along preserve the earth not fight over it. That includes money as well. all people deserve an equal chance in life whether they are from Mexico Africa or any fucking where. You may not agree with them and the way they live the way they will work for $7.00 an hour but who are you and who is uncle SAM to tell them that they cant work here cause they were born somewhere else. They are just as much entitled to their personal freedom and choice of what profession they chose even if they will do it cheaper than you and in a more productive manner! If we had open boarders in the world people would be free and the violence would stop world wide but it's people like you that says get outta here your not welcome that creates the violence in the world. Wars solve nothing in the end they are stupid! This issue is and will create an enemy on our southern boarder. Open your eyes dude and look at the big picture, thats what is wrong with America today you are all closed minded and think were invincible! The world is changing and as travel has evolved so should the laws to allow people true freedom! As for people's $3000.00 a month mortgage thats the stupidity of most people today to pay that much and the greed of having the biggest the best of everything including your gas guzzling V-8 and SUV. Your completely right I do believe one thing is offered way to cheap and that is all petroleum based oils. OPEC needs to have there wages increased as well so they can build a huge empire too, as with the same, you want by securing jobs here but are you for that? Does every human being not deserve the same opportunities afforded to you? What makes you any better than the next? Because your an American? You have to eat sleep shit and die just like the next to have a place in this world! So just what makes you any better?
 

medicineman

New Member
Obviously you're not an American, So go fuck your self. you have no business posting about American problems in this forum. Tahe care of problems in your country and don't worry about ours. you obviously know nothing about economics as what you are professing would end the American way of life. So I must assume you to be some kind of foriegn terrorist or else an idiot. If you think by letting the borders open wide allowing everyone from everywhere to come here and compete for the jobs we have worked long and hard to build up to this standard is the way to go, then I say to you Fuck you. This country has the highest standard of living because we deserve it. It was us that saved Europes ass in WWII. It is the USA that spends more money to aid disasters across the globe. We invented most of the Industrial revolution and you want us to just give it away. Not on your life. The terrorist that trys to put me out of my place in this country will find it not an easy task, for I will blow his balls off, and bury him for fertilizer! Any more comments dorkwad?
 

ViRedd

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Geeze, what a kind, compassionate post there Med.

And speaking about economic knowledge and what would end the "American way of life" ... you don't have much of a clue yourself.

Vi
 

medicineman

New Member
Geeze, what a kind, compassionate post there Med.

And speaking about economic knowledge and what would end the "American way of life" ... you don't have much of a clue yourself.

Vi
You mean to tell me that you can't see that opening our borders would destroy the status quo? Lord help me I'm dealin with retards here!
 

ViRedd

New Member
You mean to tell me that you can't see that opening our borders would destroy the status quo? Lord help me I'm dealin with retards here!
Well, I'm not for opening the borders. On the other hand, do you mean to tell me that limiting income WOULDN'T destroy the status quo?

And by the way, Med ... you might try to be a little more sensitive with your verbage. You continually refer to members here as "retards." It may not have occured to you ... but there may be members who's children have some difficulties in this area. Not too cool, eh?


Vi
 

medicineman

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Well, I'm not for opening the borders. On the other hand, do you mean to tell me that limiting income WOULDN'T destroy the status quo?

And by the way, Med ... you might try to be a little more sensitive with your verbage. You continually refer to members here as "retards." It may not have occured to you ... but there may be members who's children have some difficulties in this area. Not too cool, eh?


Vi
I believe you are incorrect. I can't remember where I called anyone here a retard before, But if you can prove it then post it! BTW My stepson is afflicted, so I'm no stranger to it!
 

ViRedd

New Member
I think you're right. I did a search using the word "retard" and your name only came up once. Sorry ...

Vi
 

bigballin007

New Member
I was born and raised here in the USA my skin is white my Mother lived here in this country all of her life her mom lived here all of her life her mom lived here all her life and her mom came from Russia and her husband came from Poland so this would qualify me as an American citizen.
I just believe everyone in the world deserves the same opportunities that is offered to the next whether you have twenty children, no money, rich, or where you are born! You don't honestly believe you had a huge part in building this empire of greed do you? It was not just Americans that built this country, many great nations has contributed to building this country! As for the industrial revolution thats to friggen funny man! The industrial revolution came about as nations were able to engage in talks and sharing of recourses, with out the products that are from other countries just where do you think we will get the materials to produce the technologies we see today. We use world wide recourses so don't give me that line of BS about if it we not for America!
The idea is to create a peaceful world where people get along with their neighbors. If people we free to go where they wanted with out people like you then there would not be the need to fight for oil or land because people would be sharing, but it's your type of ideology that is sparking the violence in the world. I would certainly consider you an enemy if I were living in an other country. But seems how I have to deal with people who I consider the true terrorists, I will continue to voice my 2 cents if you like what I have to say or not. Even if I may be alittle slow, My life lessons have taught me well and I know I am entitled to any opinion that I choose. So fuck you for thinking your better than the next because I know where my place is in this world, unlike the typical American!
 
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