Merica! F*ck yeah!

PeyoteReligion

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I dunno about Colorado, but in Washington horse sex has been illegal since some Boeing dude died from perforated colon via receiving horse cock. But before that happened, it was totally legal in the state. If you life in a state that condones horse copulation, just go ahead and die getting fucked by a horse and they will change the law, in your name.

So we have legal cannabis consumption, and no legal horse sex. Winning on both fronts.
 

skunkd0c

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It made me feel very slow and careful.
When you complied with the commands issued were they polite to you, did they say please and thank you
or was it more aggressive, get on your knees !

i am assuming your pot was taken by cops, although i don't think you specifically said it was, just taken at gun point

why was a gun used, did you initially resist , or were they overzealous, or is it standard procedure
or are you a known aggressor, just wondering

i did wonder that if a cop says, get on your knees, if you say, "say please first", will they shoot you ?
i guess it could depend on what kind of day the cop has had, perhaps its best not to take that risk, disregarding politeness lol
 

Doer

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When you complied with the commands issued were they polite to you, did they say please and thank you
or was it more aggressive, get on your knees !

i am assuming your pot was taken by cops, although i don't think you specifically said it was, just taken at gun point

why was a gun used, did you initially resist , or were they overzealous, or is it standard procedure
or are you a known aggressor, just wondering

i did wonder that if a cop says, get on your knees, if you say, "say please first", will they shoot you ?
i guess it could depend on what kind of day the cop has had, perhaps its best not to take that risk, disregarding politeness lol
Once was cops and both were thief and no one said please.

With the cops is was very professional and not very rough. With the thief, it was a horror show. There were women and childern upstairs. I had 3 other big guys with me, in the kitchen, thankfully, and we convenienced him wordlessly, he could not shoot us all.

We just naturally spread out immediately and We ignored his command that we stay grouped. We lost the ounce of hash, but the guy paused and tossed us back a couple of grams as he left. Said we needed it. :)
 

skunkd0c

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Glad it all worked out for you, children upstairs enough said

folk staying grouped , yeh, that does not fit in with the flight or fight response which i would assume would be the natural reaction for most folk
in that situation, impulsive behavior takes over i guess many would be unable to comply unless they freeze which i think is less common

still, they could of said please :)
 

Doer

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At least he said thank you. :)

Well, now we know. Fear is the mind killer. But, we were very stoned on Afgan hash. All 4 of us immediately began to game him. We weren't afraid, at all. That was later. Good to be stoned.

One guy went for a knife on the drain and as a kind of a ruse, another very tall guy jumped up over to stop him and by then he was surrounded except for Sun Tsu, escape route, we left, back out the kitchen door. I'm still pinned behind the kitchen table and become the Speaker.

He tried to make a move right then for the rest of the house, but my very large brother, just chest butted him, and said, NO!

Now I'm talking to him. Real quiet, friendly but insistent, almost a whisper, on his side. "You can't get us all." But, very reasonably and worried for him. I continued with the Thug Whisperer bit.

And that grabbed his attention, and we almost had him.

But, he saw it, at the last instant and pulled the gun back to his ribs. Then another friend, the very tall guy, says from almost behind him, in a flat tone of voice, opposite of mine...."you should leave."

By then, the first guy has a very large knife, not the little meat knife he went for. I, who have been sitting calmly, pinned behind the table, stand up and show that I'm about to turn the table up into the room on him, but, say, in a weird, whining tone of voice, that surprised even me..."don't take all the hash, leave us soooooommmme." But, my face was not whining.

I'm making eye gestures toward the door.

He took the bag, calmly, as we all were, (except my giant brother still in his blocking position, scowling fiercely), knife guy is hanging loosely at his side, but looking very evil, the tall guy, 6' 5" is still right behind....

He fished out a palm full of pieces and set them them down and left. When we looked, we saw he took less than 1/2, now that I remember.

He just wanted to get he and some friends stoned I think and we were just sitting there with the screen door latched. Loud and hashed.

He could have just asked us and we would have been happy to more party, just hippies with an OZ. Now, race doesn't matter here, does it? In Pensacola, it does. Just about that part. It never occurred to him to ask, I think. So, he had a ruse about a cat," are we missing our cat?" and he motioned under his arm. That got the screen door latch opened. The gun was under his arm.

Hmmm.....I would not have been thinking ruse, without that, I bet. As it was, we all were.

Many years later, I became a student of conflict and thus a student of Sun Tsu. What happened in that kitchen that night was straight Sun Tsu, particularly in that we naturally left him an out, and that we naturally controlled his attention and demeanor.

I also read the Dune Series after that and noticed my natural application of the VOICE by weirdly whining his Out of Here, thought....take some Hash...
 

skunkd0c

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At least he said thank you. :)

Well, now we know. Fear is the mind killer. But, we were very stoned on Afgan hash. All 4 of us immediately began to game him. We weren't afraid, at all. That was later. Good to be stoned.

One guy went for a knife on the drain and as a kind of a ruse, another very tall guy jumped up over to stop him and by then he was surrounded except for Sun Tsu, escape route, we left, back out the kitchen door. I'm still pinned behind the kitchen table and become the Speaker.

He tried to make a move right then for the rest of the house, but my very large brother, just chest butted him, and said, NO!

Now I'm talking to him. Real quiet, friendly but insistent, almost a whisper, on his side. "You can't get us all." But, very reasonably and worried for him. I continued with the Thug Whisperer bit.

And that grabbed his attention, and we almost had him.

But, he saw it, at the last instant and pulled the gun back to his ribs. Then another friend, the very tall guy, says from almost behind him, in a flat tone of voice, opposite of mine...."you should leave."

By then, the first guy has a very large knife, not the little meat knife he went for. I, who have been sitting calmly, pinned behind the table, stand up and show that I'm about to turn the table up into the room on him, but, say, in a weird, whining tone of voice, that surprised even me..."don't take all the hash, leave us soooooommmme." But, my face was not whining.

I'm making eye gestures toward the door.

He took the bag, calmly, as we all were, (except my giant brother still in his blocking position, scowling fiercely), knife guy is hanging loosely at his side, but looking very evil, the tall guy, 6' 5" is still right behind....

He fished out a palm full of pieces and set them them down and left. When we looked, we saw he took less than 1/2, now that I remember.

He just wanted to get he and some friends stoned I think and we were just sitting there with the screen door latched. Loud and hashed.

He could have just asked us and we would have been happy to more party, just hippies with an OZ. Now, race doesn't matter here, does it? In Pensacola, it does. Just about that part. It never occurred to him to ask, I think. So, he had a ruse about a cat," are we missing our cat?" and he motioned under his arm. That got the screen door latch opened. The gun was under his arm.

Hmmm.....I would not have been thinking ruse, without that, I bet. As it was, we all were.

Many years later, I became a student of conflict and thus a student of Sun Tsu. What happened in that kitchen that night was straight Sun Tsu, particularly in that we naturally left him an out, and that we naturally controlled his attention and demeanor.

I also read the Dune Series after that and noticed my natural application of the VOICE by weirdly whining his Out of Here, thought....take some Hash...
i have never been robbed myself, but i have been in one or two situations where my ability to protect myself from serious harm was questionable
luckily for me i have escaped unharmed (perhaps some damaged pride/ego)
i do get what you say about fear being postponed i experience that too, its quite amazing how calm and thoughtful folk can be under real pressure
only to blow up over the trivial things in life, something i can be guilty of myself

i am glad they said thankyou, lol,

just mindless opportunists, and like you say, if they had asked you most likely would of given for free
most of us smokers are well aware of what its like to have nothing and are happy to share to a point even with strangers
but i guess for them it wasn't just about getting high, or they would of asked, they wanted to take to feel in control

peace
 

Doer

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i have never been robbed myself, but i have been in one or two situations where my ability to protect myself from serious harm was questionable
luckily for me i have escaped unharmed (perhaps some damaged pride/ego)
i do get what you say about fear being postponed i experience that too, its quite amazing how calm and thoughtful folk can be under real pressure
only to blow up over the trivial things in life, something i can be guilty of myself

i am glad they said thankyou, lol,

just mindless opportunists, and like you say, if they had asked you most likely would of given for free
most of us smokers are well aware of what its like to have nothing and are happy to share to a point even with strangers
but i guess for them it wasn't just about getting high, or they would of asked, they wanted to take to feel in control

peace
All very true, Gunga Din. I hope the time never comes again, and hope you keep your head, if it does. :)

One thing is true. All the senses are in overdrive. If we don't waste that in panic shouting or whatever, things can become very clear. What to do next, seems obvious, timing is just a roadmap, not referred to.

And as the 2/5 US Marines in Afghanistan are saying.....it is addictive. I wasn't ready to hear that. But, I have been in martial fights with drunks and the same thing. I'm Marshall, they aren't. They don't even appreciate how they are being manipulated. I always let them win, by me saying OK OK!! But, they have their ribs worked good. So, they are in a better fame of mind to Win, but not know until the next day.

I don't want a brawl against a bunch of guys and his friends. I let him win. <wink> ...not messing his face bloody, is a better way out. Face is saved? But, these are just techniques. See my .sig.

The first pain we inflict is on ourselves in training.
 

skunkd0c

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All very true, Gunga Din. I hope the time never comes again, and hope you keep your head, if it does. :)

One thing is true. All the senses are in overdrive. If we don't waste that in panic shouting or whatever, things can become very clear. What to do next, seems obvious, timing is just a roadmap, not referred to.

And as the 2/5 US Marines in Afghanistan are saying.....it is addictive. I wasn't ready to hear that. But, I have been in martial fights with drunks and the same thing. I'm Marshall, they aren't. They don't even appreciate how they are being manipulated. I always let them win, by me saying OK OK!! But, they have their ribs worked good. So, they are in a better fame of mind to Win, but not know until the next day.

I don't want a brawl against a bunch of guys and his friends. I let him win. <wink> ...not messing his face bloody, is a better way out. Face is saved? But, these are just techniques. See my .sig.

The first pain we inflict is on ourselves in training.

Thanks chief
i don't think folk are allowed to say Gunga Din here anymore political correctness again

i hope if that should occur i escape unscathed keeping a cool head in the process lol

its just if those cops tell me to get on my knees, or on my stomach pointing their machine guns at me i am going to be fighting the urge to say

"well say please then" lol
i don't have a death wish or anything, i am just a fan of politeness :)
 

Doer

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Thanks chief
i don't think folk are allowed to say Gunga Din here anymore political correctness again

i hope if that should occur i escape unscathed keeping a cool head in the process lol

its just if those cops tell me to get on my knees, or on my stomach pointing their machine guns at me i am going to be fighting the urge to say

"well say please then" lol
i don't have a death wish or anything, i am just a fan of politeness :)


No...nonononono...it's not that kind of situation. Quick and silent compliance may do more than just save your ass.

IAC, Kipling was glorifying the Wog here and it is too bad that is not seen as complementary, as many I know see it.

A Better Man than I, Gunga Din. If you can keep your head while all others are losing theirs...A better MAN.

The other side of these law dogs is they are the first brush of self-rule and also citizens and they can just let you off. Broad discretion there. You might just want to make their day with politeness before you are ordered down. But, Down you go and live.

I have gotten off several times, many times actually. And the only times I have been seriously popped with weight, was when I was not the one talking, alas.

I've been thru a highway checkpoint with a 30 kilo block on the back seat covered with a blanket. "Have a nice day!" Cop mutters 'no problem' as he beads the next car. You must not fuck with them.

I once played the abject puppy so hard, my face hurt, after. Law had grabbed my collar for stepping out of the vehicle I could not let him sniff, and I had locked the door behind me. THINK FAST!

I fell back and actually whimpered. I exposed my throat and almost howled in fear to match my facial horror, I let him see.

I was 20 and quite the surfer gangsta, though, that term was not in vogue.

"Get up, boy. I ain't gonna hurt you." Said kindly....(it worked) OK, OK. pant, pant, pant. You scared the crap out of me. (and I let that happen too, to be real)

Can w-walgulp, I just need to walk a second, back toward...? (motion) I'll be fine. (deep sigh, another wooble) YOU all right!?>> Yassu, yasu I'll be fine, now. thankeee sur.

Probably cause, in my favor, now, with the doors locked. It is just something my friends and I trained ourselves with, mental deceptions and ruses. The Spice must flow, if you get my drift. :)

I do this a lot, in fact. Every time I deal with Law, they are dealing with me. It is not like they expect. But, it is the same thing they are trained in.

Psycho-social confrontation modification, now called Mental Judo. That is even down to that clinch break, by a scream in the ear...the certain type and distance etc. is just technique.

It is all the VOICE.

Now I can do, weapon take-aways, with VOICE distractions...in theory.
 

skunkd0c

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No...nonononono...it's not that kind of situation. Quick and silent compliance may do more than just save your ass.

IAC, Kipling was glorifying the Wog here and it is too bad that is not seen as complementary, as many I know see it.

A Better Man than I, Gunga Din. If you can keep your head while all others are losing theirs...A better MAN.

The other side of these law dogs is they are the first brush of self-rule and also citizens and they can just let you off. Broad discretion there. You might just want to make their day with politeness before you are ordered down. But, Down you go and live.

I have gotten off several times, many times actually. And the only times I have been seriously popped with weight, was when I was not the one talking, alas.

I've been thru a highway checkpoint with a 30 kilo block on the back seat covered with a blanket. "Have a nice day!" Cop mutters 'no problem' as he beads the next car. You must not fuck with them.

I once played the abject puppy so hard, my face hurt, after. Law had grabbed my collar for stepping out of the vehicle I could not let him sniff, and I had locked the door behind me. THINK FAST!

I fell back and actually whimpered. I exposed my throat and almost howled in fear to match my facial horror, I let him see.

I was 20 and quite the surfer gangsta, though, that term was not in vogue.

"Get up, boy. I ain't gonna hurt you." Said kindly....(it worked) OK, OK. pant, pant, pant. You scared the crap out of me. (and I let that happen too, to be real)

Can w-walgulp, I just need to walk a second, back toward...? (motion) I'll be fine. (deep sigh, another wooble) YOU all right!?>> Yassu, yasu I'll be fine, now. thankeee sur.

Probably cause, in my favor, now, with the doors locked. It is just something my friends and I trained ourselves with, mental deceptions and ruses. The Spice must flow, if you get my drift. :)

I do this a lot, in fact. Every time I deal with Law, they are dealing with me. It is not like they expect. But, it is the same thing they are trained in.

Psycho-social confrontation modification, now called Mental Judo. That is even down to that clinch break, by a scream in the ear...the certain type and distance etc. is just technique.

It is all the VOICE.

Now I can do, weapon take-aways, with VOICE distractions...in theory.

Not had much interaction with cops in a very long while
the odd traffic cop from time to time, i try my best to avoid them
i do remember a close call when i was in my early 20s and somewhat reckless

i had hash and some other more serious illegal items in my car, enough for a few years jail time if i were stopped
i was only making a short journey so had not planned for any interruptions other than on route i would pick my girl up on the way
i had only been with her for a few months i knew she was a bit of a handful, that was part of the attraction i guess

it was clear that as soon as she got in my car she was high

after a short while of driving
she says "don't look there are cops behind us" sniggering,
i was looking into her huge coke head enlarged pupils and thinking if the cop sees you i am fucked,

she was not aware of what i had in the car ,i tried to explain to her to act normal
she laughed even more and started making police siren noises lol !

paranoia set in
i thought about making a run for it, i had no chance, cops tend to drive much better than I do from previous experience

in a few seconds i decided the best plan or more of an impulse was to bluff them
if i speak to the cop first, they will not suspect me of any wrong doing, was my thinking

i could not handle the possibility of them pulling me over, i also could not handle the waiting for what might happen
they would see miss giggles high as fuck in the passenger seat search the car, and i would be in jail before tea time
she would most likely be laughing about it with her friends before the end of the day

so i signaled to pull over with hazard lights, i went up to the cop in his car, and said,
"sorry to stop you officer but i am lost, i do not usually take this route home could you give me directions please" ?
the cop was very polite and offered to escort me part of the way home lol

drug run with police escort !!

fear was mixed with a feeling of satisfaction but overall i was not feeling good, i seldom did that sort of thing again
the thought of getting caught by random police just stumbling across me like that, i would never forgive myself, i was lucky

peace
 

Doer

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Not had much interaction with cops in a very long while
the odd traffic cop from time to time, i try my best to avoid them
i do remember a close call when i was in my early 20s and somewhat reckless

i had hash and some other more serious illegal items in my car, enough for a few years jail time if i were stopped
i was only making a short journey so had not planned for any interruptions other than on route i would pick my girl up on the way
i had only been with her for a few months i knew she was a bit of a handful, that was part of the attraction i guess

it was clear that as soon as she got in my car she was high

after a short while of driving
she says "don't look there are cops behind us" sniggering,
i was looking into her huge coke head enlarged pupils and thinking if the cop sees you i am fucked,

she was not aware of what i had in the car ,i tried to explain to her to act normal
she laughed even more and started making police siren noises lol !

paranoia set in
i thought about making a run for it, i had no chance, cops tend to drive much better than I do from previous experience

in a few seconds i decided the best plan or more of an impulse was to bluff them
if i speak to the cop first, they will not suspect me of any wrong doing, was my thinking

i could not handle the possibility of them pulling me over, i also could not handle the waiting for what might happen
they would see miss giggles high as fuck in the passenger seat search the car, and i would be in jail before tea time
she would most likely be laughing about it with her friends before the end of the day

so i signaled to pull over with hazard lights, i went up to the cop in his car, and said,
"sorry to stop you officer but i am lost, i do not usually take this route home could you give me directions please" ?
the cop was very polite and offered to escort me part of the way home lol

drug run with police escort !!

fear was mixed with a feeling of satisfaction but overall i was not feeling good, i seldom did that sort of thing again
the thought of getting caught by random police just stumbling across me like that, i would never forgive myself, i was lucky

peace
I love swapping stories and that is one of the coolest ever. Thank you. I can't stop laughing!..../.help mme;/.']\\a
 
Reminds me of that one time the cops pulled me over when I was high and drunk as fuck (my friends knew I was fucked up), but then this one cop sort of just, let me go free, he asked if I was drunk and I said no :mrgreen: then he asked again a couple more times and yea, it went down something like that, in the end with me driving away un-bothered.

I don't really remember any feeling of fear, but? possibly there was a feeling of indifference or a feeling of being oblivious to the situation, or something lol. (truth is, there is always an act going on when you're concealing something from the police.
I can remember that.. my friend sitting next to me was pretty impressed at what just happened, but I think I was more? of the attitude that I got lucky and that it could have all gone down a completely different way.
 

skunkd0c

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Reminds me of that one time the cops pulled me over when I was high and drunk as fuck (my friends knew I was fucked up), but then this one cop sort of just, let me go free, he asked if I was drunk and I said no :mrgreen: then he asked again a couple more times and yea, it went down something like that, in the end with me driving away un-bothered.

I don't really remember any feeling of fear, but? possibly there was a feeling of indifference or a feeling of being oblivious to the situation, or something lol. (truth is, there is always an act going on when you're concealing something from the police.
I can remember that.. my friend sitting next to me was pretty impressed at what just happened, but I think I was more? of the attitude that I got lucky and that it could have all gone down a completely different way.
For me the paranoia kicks in mate, as i know as soon as they speak to me and check my name, they will search me
as i am previously known to them, not for anything serious, but still enough for them to search my car as standard procedure
for the most part i have been lucky and have had very little problems from the police overall
as a kid they were total cunts very rude, but as an adult most of them have been polite and pretty reasonable
 

NoDrama

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For me the paranoia kicks in mate, as i know as soon as they speak to me and check my name, they will search me
as i am previously known to them, not for anything serious, but still enough for them to search my car as standard procedure
for the most part i have been lucky and have had very little problems from the police overall
as a kid they were total cunts very rude, but as an adult most of them have been polite and pretty reasonable
They search your car as standard procedure?

Want to have some fun?

Tell them that you do not consent to any searches, then lock the doors to your car when you get out and put the keys in your pocket. Refuse to cooperate in anyway as far as searching of the vehicle goes. Demand your rights.

The cops? They go away after trying every coercive tactic in the book. Stand your ground.

Do this everytime you get pulled over and you will be amazed at how much less you get pulled over. If ever.
 
For me the paranoia kicks in mate, as i know as soon as they speak to me and check my name, they will search me
as i am previously known to them, not for anything serious, but still enough for them to search my car as standard procedure
for the most part i have been lucky and have had very little problems from the police overall
as a kid they were total cunts very rude, but as an adult most of them have been polite and pretty reasonable
Yeh, police are people too! If you treat em nice, chances are they will treat you nice :) though sometimes things just get fucked up, lol, and sometimes they can just be utter pigs, no matter what you do.
 

Doer

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For me the paranoia kicks in mate, as i know as soon as they speak to me and check my name, they will search me as i am previously known to them, not for anything serious, but still enough for them to search my car as standard procedure for the most part i have been lucky and have had very little problems from the police overall
as a kid they were total cunts very rude, but as an adult most of them have been polite and pretty reasonable
When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.
- attributed by Reader's Digest, Sept. 1937.

That attitude the cops see? We don't see it, in ourselves, for a long while.

It is interesting to hear they get to search all with a record. Here is it only for outstanding warrants.

Freedom is to clear your warrants. And even then I had to move out of FL.

Every time I was stopped I was hauled in. Outstanding Warrant.

They love that for a Friday night. Then on Monday,
in front of the Judge, it is,

"That warrant was clear as you have shown. Clerical Error." (another attorney fee) Dismissed.

Self rule in that State. Please, Sur. May I have another? Of course, you may.

Notice there is no persona non-gratis, between the States.
 

abandonconflict

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Pope Francis warns Latin America against legalizing drugs
&#8220;The scourge of drug trafficking, which favors violence and sows the seeds of suffering and death, requires of society as a whole an act of courage,&#8221; Francis said as rain fell on the Saint Francis hospital.
&#8220;A reduction in the spread and influence of drug addiction will not be achieved by a liberalization of drug use, as is currently being proposed in various parts of Latin America,&#8221; he said on the third day of his trip.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/25/pope-francis-warns-latin-america-against-legalizing-drugs/
 
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