mexican dirt weed seeds

i got some mexican dirt weed seeds and i threw im my aerogarden, what do you guys will be the quality of my grow?, im guessing they are outdoor and hopefully will have a big yeild, let mne know thanks

I think it will be just about as good as buying seeds from a seed co. You'll have some nice size colas and it will smell delicious. It will get you very high as well. Dirt weed is only dirt because of the way it was dried, cured, packaged, stored and shipped.

I've had that shit many times, and all I can say is "garbage in, garbage out."

yeah my expectations are very low, but ill start a grow journal and maybe ill get some good results..., they are growing incredabliy fast, from just poppin in from yesterday i already have three that are a inch and quarter to an inch and half, but hey it is a weed after all.

Good luck, brother. I hope you end up with some good smoke.

GrowSpecialist said:

I think it will be just about as good as buying seeds from a seed co. You'll have some nice size colas and it will smell delicious. It will get you very high as well. Dirt weed is only dirt because of the way it was dried, cured, packaged, stored and shipped.

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I agree but you still will not get the same quality you get with good genetics thats for sure.

Mexi weed isn't the genetics you would get from the pro strains, and won't match quality of anything. It's stuff that's good to throw out there and take minimal care but not the highest yielding or most resin covered stoniest stuff.

Also those aerogardens are so tiny and space is so very limited you should be growing with something that flowers well at very small heights, not some sativa dom strain used to growing 6 feet tall. (I think mexi is sativa isn't it?)

It's a shame you have an aerogarden. You could have built a better setup AND bought quality seeds for less than the cost of that toy.

Most mexi pot is hybrid now for better yeilds

It's a shame you have an aerogarden. You could have built a better setup AND bought quality seeds for less than the cost of that toy.]


yeah i understand this is just my test experiment, im way low matenince, so we just said "fuuuuck it", well just see what happens

and btw, thanks for all the input, i enjoy your guys ideas and stuff

mistaboombastic

I'm glad you agree with some of my points... but you're wrong about shwag being mostly hermie. Those guys down there in Mexico know what they're dong when it comes to growing. All of the handling stages AFTERWARDS are a different story. Growing acres of hermies will not make the money they're after. Shit weed is seeded because they don't get all of the males out in time... and because theres just too many plants to go through to separate every single male. Also, they need males to be present so that they have seeds for the next crop. I'm sure SOME of their plants are gonna be hermies... but they haven't allowed their genetics to dictate that hermies are the majority.

You don't think those Mexican growers ever get their hands on seeds that are from other special strains of weed? You don't think they take those seeds and throw em out there in their crop and just have a huge mixture of strains going on out there? I think ALL weed strains are potent and capable of yielding nice big buds.

I don't buy seeds from seed companies. Why? Because its a waste of money and an unworthy risk. My grows are ALL of seeds I get from my bags (which I purchase from my dealer). I've always had fat colas and Trichome laden buds. I've seen close up pictures of buds from all over and NONE of them had any more Trichomes than the bagseed I've grown (and I've used bagseed from many different sources). Also, the colas and buds I've grown (from commercial bagseed mind you) have always been just as large as any I've seen in pictures of these "great" strains sold by seed companies.

Like I always say "you can't blame it on the strain". There aren't strains that are of a low potency and there aren't strains that inherently have small buds. The Mexican growers sure as hell don't continue to grow plants from genetics that will be of small yields and low potency.... but they ARE hasty in their drying/curing process because they're anxious to hurry up and get their product to the buyers and they compact it into bricks in order to get large amounts of it into America and other places where it must be smuggled. Thats why its SHIT when it gets to us.

Bottom line: I don't think there are any strains of weed in existence that are of low quality. There aren't strains that produce small colas... and there aren't strains that are significantly less potent than others. Why would someone use up acres of land to grow impotent, small yielding weed? They don't... they grow GOOD weed... and the dry it quickly and then compress it into bricks (which damages the Trichomes).

I'll let you all in on another tid bit of information. The BAGSEED I grow is grown under FLUORESCENT tubes. I don't use MH or HPS lights. I don't even use CFLs. How is it that I can take seeds from my bags (which is medium quality weed), grow them under Fluorescent tubes ONLY) and STILL have large colas and lots of Trichomes? I'll tell you how. Its because you don't need to buy seeds online or through magazines and you don't have to use MH or HPS lights. A lot of growers just BELIEVE that this is the way you need to do it in order to get big buds with lots of Trichomes. They're wrong. They are wasting their money on seeds, buying MH and HPS lights (which are expensive), and the electricity to run them. I think a lot of growers need to stop trying so hard and quit being so meticulous about growing. Just give your plants what they want... and they will do what they have evolved to do.

Here in Florida, I can either buy commercial weed (which is fairly green and gets us very high) for $40 a quarter... or we can buy "dro" for $100 a quarter ...which is of the perfect texture, is covered in crystals, tastes fantastic and gets you as high as you've ever been. I've learned that "dro" doesn't have to be grown hydroponically under MH or HPS lights to be high quality. The reason why I'm so sure is because the weed I grow is JUST AS GOOD... and I grow in SOIL under fluorescent tubes.

At harvest time, I dry and cure it properly... and then I package it LOOSELY (not compacted). The weed I grow is almost completely consumed by ME... but occasionally I sell a bag here and there to close friends and I call it "dro" when I sell it to them for $100 a quarter. Nobody has ever disputed it being "dro". They've always told me that it was excellent and then asked for more.

I hope I've straightened things out for the new growers on this site... so they can finally grow weed at a minimal cost. Save seeds from your bags. Don't buy seeds online or through magazines... and don't spend hundreds of dollars on MH or HPS lights. Just give your plants a sufficient amount of light, the proper nutrients and a good soil... and you will have some of the most high quality weed that you've ever smoked.

Thank you, Mexicans... for sending me free seeds.

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I'm going to put the link to this post in my sig so that it may help other growers in the future. I'm going to include the best tips I can give in a numerical order.

1. Save your bagseeds. Don't buy seeds from seed companies unless you want a specific flavor (like Tangerine which tastes exactly like Tangerines or some other flavorful strain). Even then, you need to seriously think about whether you're willing to associate your identity with buying seeds. Would you like to run the risk of a seed company's records being seized and the feds tracing purchases to you?

2. Don't run with the herd. You don't need Metal Halide or High Pressure Sodium lights to grow a lot of good bud. Fluorescent tubes will due just fine and they are MUCH cheaper.

3. Make sure that you plant your seedlings in a nutrient free soil. There are 2 reasons for this. Soil with nutrients will burn and kill seedlings. Also, you will be able to add nutrients at will.

4. Let the soil dry out before you apply water. Over watering is a common mistake. Water your plants... and then wait until the soil is dry 2-3 inches deep.

5. During the vegetative stage, let your lights stay on 24/0. Plants love light and they (contrary to what others might say) don't need "rest". During veg, they need all the light they can get. If you do this, your plants will be short and wide... and they will be ready for flowering a lot quicker.

6. Top your plants. My method of topping is waiting until your plant is about a foot tall and then pinching off the newest leaves at their base. If you do this every now and then, you will create 2 colas where there would be 1.

7. During the vegetative cycle, give your plants a vegging nutrient formula. A good nutrient formula for vegging is high in Nitrogen (which is the nutrient used by plants for leaf growth) and lower in Phosphorus and Potassium. For vegging, I use Miracle Grow All Purpose (24-8-6).

8. During flowering, give your plants a nutrient high in Phosphorus. Phosphorus (which is used by plants for flower growth). I use Miracle Grow Bloom Booster (15-30-15).

9. Let your plants get at least 2 feet tall before flowering. When you're ready to flower, reduce the light cycle to 12/12 (which is 12 hours of light and 12 hours of dark).

10. Use a fan to blow on your plants. They need a fan for 2 reasons. One reason is to reduce the heat in the area. The second reason (and the most important reason) is because wind strengthens the stems. The thicker/stronger the stem, the bigger the buds.

11. Wait until 75% of the bud hairs are brown before harvesting. Also, wait until at least SOME of the Trichomes are amber. If you follow that advice, you'll get the best (most balanced) high. This way, you'll get a buzz that you'll feel in your body and in your mind.

12. Dry your harvest properly. Don't throw it in the microwave (like your friends might suggest). Hang them up in a dark, well ventilated, cool area until they feel dry on the outside.

13. Cure your buds after drying. This is an extension of the drying process and will make your weed taste delicious. Place the buds in air tight jars and open each jar every day to let dry air in. Move the buds around so that they all get some fresh air. Do this for a few weeks. Once the buds feel like they are just as moist on the outside as they are on the inside. Remember not to pack them down in the jar. Packing them will damage the Trichomes. Now they are ready to store and smoke.

14. Store your finished product in air tight bags... and DO NOT compact them.

15. Don't try too hard. Don't spend hundreds of dollars on Mh/HPS lights... or hydroponic systems. Don't be so meticulous about what brand of soil/nutrients/light proportions. Plants are happy as long as they get what they need. They have grown successfully in the wild for millions of years... and they didn't need babying.

16. If you can grow outside rather than inside, do it. No light compares to sunlight. Your yield will be much better.



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Those are my basic tips. (in general) if you follow these tips, you will spend the least amount of money and yield the best results. You'll also run into little or no nutrient problems.

Growspecialist

I appreciate you taking the time to write sucha long post but much of your information is tainted and wrong. You want to believe you know the way but you haven't seen the light or tried the light or tried the real deal seeds or have any frame of reference to say what you are saying.

Yes you can grow your weed from bagseed with flouro tubes. That doesn't mean it's just as good and that you get anywhere near the yield and quality that HID lights and proper seeds will bring.

Do you even get mexi there? I haven't seen it here in 20 years or at least nobody tries to sell that stuff to me. I'm sure they have worked on ther mexi strains but I seriously doubt they are comparable to top strains and they probably aren't optimal for your indoor limited height grow. You are probably getting bagseed that IS from good strains because people growing for money aren't going to take the time to grow crap but they do grow and harvest and cure wrong often enough so with care you can often make a bagseed come out better than the bag it came from but in no way will it be on the level of a cannabis cup winner etc unless it is one of those top strains. Most of what you see on the streets is high production stuff like big bud. Which is ok, but certainly not the best.


And there sure as fuxk are weak strains, just as there are strains with practically no THC. Many strains are crossed with ruderalis, the looser auto flowering super weak strain.

At least you should TRY other methods at some time in your life before you spout off like you know it all and claim the rest of the world is wrong and you are right. If your info were correct all the pro's would grow with flouro's because they're all about making money and it would be cheaper and they could grow more square feet with less electricity.

GrowSpecialist said:

Here in Florida, I can either buy commercial weed (which is fairly green and gets us very high) for $40 a quarter... or we can buy "dro" for $100 a quarter ...which is of the perfect texture, is covered in crystals, tastes fantastic and gets you as high as you've ever been. I've learned that "dro" doesn't have to be grown hydroponically under MH or HPS lights to be high quality. The reason why I'm so sure is because the weed I grow is JUST AS GOOD... and I grow in SOIL under fluorescent tubes.

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Ok, ummmmm, I live in Florida, was born here and everything. Im not to sure where in florida you live, but you are paying WAY to much for a quarter of some commercial "mids", I buy the same shit for $60-$75oz, you should be paying $20-$30(max). But the $100 for the "high grade" is the usual price for Florida. I have also noticed that more southern florida calls that really nice seedless bud Kryp, and more northern florida (orlando towards jacksonville) calls it dro. Now I do agree with you about the "dro" part. They call it dro, but its not necessarily grown hydropically. BUT I dont agree with you about the lights. If you had two exact same scenarios of two identical clones, one grown under HPS and one under floro I bet the HPS would do a lil better no doubt. Especailly with multiple plants on one area. And right now Iam growing bagseed, and thats all I have grown so far is bagseed, but I do think that the seeds on reputable seed banks were made for the purpose of growing abviously, and they have good direct genetics. Which makes a grower able to pick a plant based on what they are looking for and not taking a shot in the dark with bagseed. I want to get some auto flowering strains, and maybe some Northern Lights or something.

OregonMeds said:

Growspecialist

I appreciate you taking the time to write sucha long post but much of your information is tainted and wrong. You want to believe you know the way but you haven't seen the light or tried the light or tried the real deal seeds or have any frame of reference to say what you are saying.

Yes you can grow your weed from bagseed with flouro tubes. That doesn't mean it's just as good and that you get anywhere near the yield and quality that HID lights and proper seeds will bring.

Do you even get mexi there? I haven't seen it here in 20 years or at least nobody tries to sell that stuff to me. I'm sure they have worked on ther mexi strains but I seriously doubt they are comparable to top strains and they probably aren't optimal for your indoor limited height grow. You are probably getting bagseed that IS from good strains because people growing for money aren't going to take the time to grow crap but they do grow and harvest and cure wrong often enough so with care you can often make a bagseed come out better than the bag it came from but in no way will it be on the level of a cannabis cup winner etc unless it is one of those top strains. Most of what you see on the streets is high production stuff like big bud. Which is ok, but certainly not the best.


And there sure as fuxk are weak strains, just as there are strains with practically no THC. Many strains are crossed with ruderalis, the looser auto flowering super weak strain.

At least you should TRY other methods at some time in your life before you spout off like you know it all and claim the rest of the world is wrong and you are right. If your info were correct all the pro's would grow with flouro's because they're all about making money and it would be cheaper and they could grow more square feet with less electricity.

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My information is tainted and wrong in YOUR OPINION. I have mine... and you have yours. Just to make things clear, I HAVE tried other methods and the results were no better than I have now. Thats all there is to it. You can rebut my posts all you want and all you'll be proving is that you don't agree with me. Thats fine, There will always be naysayers.

great point -

GrowSpecialist said:

I think it will be just about as good as buying seeds from a seed co. You'll have some nice size colas and it will smell delicious. It will get you very high as well. Dirt weed is only dirt because of the way it was dried, cured, packaged, stored and shipped.

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Would you care to do a contest Growspecialist? Would you put your bagseed under flouro's up against a pro strain grown under HID's and compare growth, yield, trichome production, whatever?

I don't have good seeds yet, but will in a month or so. I've grown bagseed and am growing some now, along with a top sative clone strain, but in the past I have also grown strains like Jack Herer and other top plants of that time (10 years ago) and sure enough those amsterdam seeds whooped ass on the bagseed under the same conditions and sure enough HID's whooped ass on flouro's. I have done both too... The trichome production and strength of that Jack was in a whole different league from bagseed, but I of course did grow all the Jack seeds and chose the best one to clone, all seeds even of the best strains are not equal.

Thanks for not being all childish about not agreeing.

IF you have bagseed of any type and that's all you can afford by all means grow it. You can surely get smokable stony stuff out of most bagseed. My disagreement is that all things are not equal at all. Also note that there is a person who just posted recently who tried to grow bagseed a couple times and wasted a whole year, kept getting hermies. How much is year of hermies worth compared to a year of sensi? It's a risk you take with bagseed. Those seeds are in there for a reason, something went wrong. Not always hermies but a way higher chance of being one.

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Ok, ummmmm, I live in Florida, was born here and everything. Im not to sure where in florida you live, but you are paying WAY to much for a quarter of some "mids" (you know what I mean by that?)I buy the same shit for $60-$75oz, you should be paying $20-$30(max). But the $100 for the "high grade" is the usual price for Florida. I have also noticed that more southern florida calls that really nice seedless bud Kryp, and more northern florida (orlando towards jacksonville) calls it dro. Now I do agree with you about the "dro" part. They call it dro, but its not necessarily grown hydropically. BUT I dont agree with you about the lights. If you had two exact same scenarios of two identical clones, one grown under HPS and one under floro I bet the HPS would do a lil better no doubt. Especailly with multiple plants on one area. And right now Iam growing bagseed, and thats all I have grown so far is bagseed, but I do think that the seeds on reputable seed banks were made for the purpose of growing abviously, and they have good direct genetics. Which makes a grower able to pick a plant based on what they are looking for and not taking a shot in the dark with bagseed. I want to get some auto flowering strains, and maybe some Northern Lights or something.

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Another person who disagrees with the "lights" portion of my post. For one thing, like I said, I've tried the expensive lights (MH and HPS0 and the results were the same as my current results (using fluorescent). My case may be special... and I'm not gonna make a huge argument about lights because we could go on forever... but the most important part of my post is the part about strains. Shit weed is not grown... it is made that way AFTER the grow process. Thats my most important point. Everything else can be left up to individual interpretation.

OregonMeds said:

Would you care to do a contest Growspecialist? Would you put your bagseed under flouro's up against a pro strain grown under HID's and compare growth, yield, trichome production, whatever?

I don't have good seeds yet, but will in a month or so. I've grown bagseed and am growing some now, along with a top sative clone strain, but in the past I have also grown strains like Jack Herer and other top plants of that time (10 years ago) and sure enough those amsterdam seeds whooped ass on the bagseed under the same conditions and sure enough HID's whooped ass on flouro's. I have done both too... The trichome production and strength of that Jack was in a whole different league from bagseed, but I of course did grow all the Jack seeds and chose the best one to clone, all seeds even of the best strains are not equal.

Thanks for not being all childish about not agreeing.

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Sure. I accept your challenge. Just PM me when you're ready to get it rolling. I'm not going anywhere.

ya guys are crazy, you both have damn good points.
you guys kick ass

I know shit weed isnt grown, whoever said it was right, its because some turn hermie and sometimes the growers dont get all the males out at the right time. That is an obvious, but how can you say that a random bagseed bud is going to be just as good as a #1 cannabis cup winner for instance?