"MG will kill your plants"... "MG works great for me"... WTF, Mate?

madodah

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mygirls

Medical Marijuana (MOD)
mg is fine if used correctly.. if its a mg soil then you don't want to feed on top of that for at least the whole veg. cycle. or if you start seeds off in mg soil good chance that your going to burn them up be4 they even get started. or if you put newly rooted clones or seedlings with barly any roots good chance of burning up the roots.. but mg soil or any mg product can be used and work great but go lightly at first... hope this helps..
 

marcoze

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MG ferts are good when used properly.

MG soil is also good if youre using it out doors, or dont care about having a colony of gnats in whereever youre growing at. MG soil i swear is right next to a gnat breeding factory or something.
 

DMG3528

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Depending on location.
MG Moisture Control is one of your best friends.
I like it, use it.
MyGirls is absolutely correct on the root issue.
If you are careful, MG works good.
 

cavebaby

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Should I never use? If so, please post why. I've noticed a lot of people bash MG, but then I always hear people responding saying, "I used MG and everything grew perfect". So, what gives?
My experience says stay away from the Pre nuted stuff......But the MGOC is great when mixed with mushroom compost and other amendments....Its great for outdoors as is but not recommended for containes so you will have to amend it.

As for feeding with It , I do it All the time but In Small doses.....I might have an 1/8 of a Tea spoon for a gallon.

Imo it does require flushing from time to time and It does make ones Ph drop so watch that.

All in all I say its better to use the natural stuff,[mgoc] Just plain great dirt , worm poop and enjoy.
 

marcoze

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i forgot to add in my original post


FLUSH FOR 1.5 - 2 WEEKS OR YOU WILL TASTE IT
. dont feel salty when youre actually tasting salts after a careful grow, FLUSH
 

madodah

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i forgot to add in my original post


FLUSH FOR 1.5 - 2 WEEKS OR YOU WILL TASTE IT
. dont feel salty when youre actually tasting salts after a careful grow, FLUSH
Which leaves in-ground growers who use chemical supplements with no option but to smoke them.
 

420BongRips

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I personally like MG, if used properly. I've learned first hand on my first attempt growing that you shouldn't start seedlings in MG soil, just plain stupid. I burnt the hell out of my plant, it recovered but my mom found it lol bongsmilie
 

LAX Skunky BwS

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CSI Stickyicky

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All in all I say its better to use the natural stuff,[mgoc] Just plain great dirt , worm poop and enjoy.
I totally agree. Sure, buds that use miracle grow will still be good buds, the best stuff is still the best stuff. And the best stuff is good old fashioned compost, worm poo, compost tea, vermicompost tea, and bat shit. mmm mmm, earthy delicious organic buds.
 

marcoze

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Which leaves in-ground growers who use chemical supplements with no option but to smoke them.

and why is that now?? ive flushed out door crops many times. what are you feeding up til the day of the chop?? cmon man.
 

kevin

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i've used mg potting soil mix and had great results. just have to be careful with over watering which causes the nute ball to release causing nute burn on top of water logging them.
 

Brick Top

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Any soil with slow release nutrients is not the best option to choose. You do not have the same control of what plants receive as you do when you mix your nutes when watering, especially when they are quality nutes, and if you run into some imbalance problem it can be more difficult to rectify.

If someone wants to use slow release nutes I normally suggest that they begin with a good to top quality soil that does not have any nutes and after their plants are about 3 to 4 weeks old (it will vary) spread some Fox Farms dry slow release nutes over the surface and work them into the soil a bit. (Of course being cautious to not disturb and damage their seedlings.)

It is better and it is safer and while you still give up some degree of control compared to mixing nutes when watering it is still a vastly better option than any soil that comes with slow release nutes in it.
 

madodah

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and why is that now?? ive flushed out door crops many times. what are you feeding up til the day of the chop?? cmon man.
I don't use chemicals and with an organic grow have no desire or requirement to flush anything.

Flushing an in-ground grow is something I'd like to see. What are they planting in, sand?
 

marcoze

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I don't use chemicals and with an organic grow have no desire or requirement to flush anything.

Flushing an in-ground grow is something I'd like to see. What are they planting in, sand?
I dont know, but your plants must be planted in an imaginary world inside of your head to be talking out of your ass as much as you are.

Are you familiar with what a FLUSH is?? because its painfully obvious that you do not.

do you even grow? anything for that matter? because if you did you would not be talking so out of line.
 

Brick Top

New Member
Flushing an in-ground grow is something I'd like to see. What are they planting in, sand?

Soil and location will make a differences in how completely someone will be able to or not be able to flush when growing outdoors but it is wrong to look at the earth as a sealed container that nothing put into it ever escapes from it or vanishes deep within it.

If you have ever owned a home you might have noticed that lawns will at times become completely void of nutrients and need to be fertilized. If you owned a home and it had it's own well you might have pondered a time or two about how when it rains the rain water works its way down through the soil to the depths of your well, roughly 400-feet in my case, and that on it's way down the rain water brings various things with it, sometimes unwanted things, and they eventually end up in your well alone with the rain water.

Do you believe that when you fertilize outdoor plants that the fertilizer, regardless of type, magically and mystically suspends itself at the general depth of a root-ball and it defies what takes other things deep below the surface? Did you ever consider that when someone waters their outdoor plants or it rains, as the water passes down through the soil, much farther down than the lowest point of a plant's root-ball, that nutrients already in the soil might possibly travel downward with the water, as happens when someone flushes pots, and it eventually works it's way below where a plant's roots would ever reach?

What happens if there happens to be trees in the area, trees with roots that spread out beneath an area where someone plants a crop? Do you believe that the tree roots would be gentlemanly and not 'eat' any of the plant's 'food?' What about other root systems that might be nearby? Do you believe they would not tap into nutrients in the soil simply because the nutrients were not intended for their use?

Nutrients in soil can and at times will vanish, for various reasons, faster than some might ever believe.
 

marcoze

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Soil and location will make a differences in how completely someone will be able to or not be able to flush when growing outdoors but it is wrong to look at the earth as a sealed container that nothing put into it ever escapes from it or vanishes deep within it.

If you have ever owned a home you might have noticed that lawns will at times become completely void of nutrients and need to be fertilized. If you owned a home and it had it's own well you might have pondered a time or two about how when it rains the rain water works its way down through the soil to the depths of your well, roughly 400-feet in my case, and that on it's way down the rain water brings various things with it, sometimes unwanted things, and they eventually end up in your well alone with the rain water.

Do you believe that when you fertilize outdoor plants that the fertilizer, regardless of type, magically and mystically suspends itself at the general depth of a root-ball and it defies what takes other things deep below the surface? Did you ever consider that when someone waters their outdoor plants or it rains, as the water passes down through the soil, much farther down than the lowest point of a plant's root-ball, that nutrients already in the soil might possibly travel downward with the water, as happens when someone flushes pots, and it eventually works it's way below where a plant's roots would ever reach?

What happens if there happens to be trees in the area, trees with roots that spread out beneath an area where someone plants a crop? Do you believe that the tree roots would be gentlemanly and not 'eat' any of the plant's 'food?' What about other root systems that might be nearby? Do you believe they would not tap into nutrients in the soil simply because the nutrients were not intended for their use?

Nutrients in soil can and at times will vanish, for various reasons, faster than some might ever believe.
If you allow your grass to reach the HEALTHY height that it is supposed to, and DO NOT bag your grass, the dead grass actually contains more than enough nutrients to keep your lawn going.

When i moved into my new house everyone in the neighborhood was telling me id need to fert my lawn......well im in some fucking yuppie retard land here and no one has a clue as to what horticulture truely is.

So i just allow my grass to get somewhat tall, cut it (dont bag), and in one rain all of that dead grass is now leached back into the soil. Producing one of the lushest greenest lawns in my neighborhood.
 

mygirls

Medical Marijuana (MOD)
If you allow your grass to reach the HEALTHY height that it is supposed to, and DO NOT bag your grass, the dead grass actually contains more than enough nutrients to keep your lawn going.

When i moved into my new house everyone in the neighborhood was telling me id need to fert my lawn......well im in some fucking yuppie retard land here and no one has a clue as to what horticulture truely is.

So i just allow my grass to get somewhat tall, cut it (dont bag), and in one rain all of that dead grass is now leached back into the soil. Producing one of the lushest greenest lawns in my neighborhood.
i have the greeniest grass on my block. yes i wait tell its almost 10" to 12" tall then cut but i bag... i use weed-n-feed after my first cut thats it..
 
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