Michigan Growers Tell Your Plans for This Year

That sucks!

dankshizzle said:

Yo yos? And shouldn't it be called in-doh not chron-doh.. sounds less like 9th grader made it up.

Are you air cooling ur hood?

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You can't air cool T5's. T5's are high output fluorescent tubes and are emit low heat as it is.

fuck, i walk in the veg room and wanna cry, thinkin of throwin it all out and starting fresh again

You might be pleasntly supprised , some of them may recover they are really strong plants
I had on that got run over by the lawnmower several years ago several times and I ended up getting over 3 oz off it

yeah the problem is i topped them all last night down to one set of leaves. now on each one, at least one of those leaves are burned off. i know a couple would make it but i think id prefer to just wipe the slate clean and have a new set. i think the bubba kush seems most likely to survive.

Delstele your box is full

rzza said:

dank, actually the ceiling fell in LOL

it was only attached to a ceiling tile and it fell finally.

not air cooling, its a t5. i air cool the 1k hps's.
i didnt say chron, where did you see that?

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i think he misquoted or was typing in the wrong thread.

Shwagbag said:

You can't air cool T5's. T5's are high output fluorescent tubes and are emit low heat as it is.

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hey Im pretty new to growing and i was wondering what was a simple light that i can use for sprouting my seeds before i move them outside, i only want them to grow like 6 inches then ill move em out. so at my homedepot i found this light which seemed the simplest but i want to know if it will work because i read somewhere that the light should be around 6500K for maximun chlorophyl production, and these lights are only 4200K but its a t5 bulb so what do you guys think can i use these to start my plants? i only wanna sprout like twenty seeds in a small box with a fan, would two of these lights be good enough?
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Also I have to be stealth about this because im still at home which is why i just want a simple light

Cannabis Krew 420 said:

Also I have to be stealth about this because im still at home which is why i just want a simple light

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that will do fine.

i was quoting KG talking about hash and oil mixed making a chron-doh playdoh type shit. i was suggesting calling it in-doh not chron-doh.

The air cooling thing was for the question of how low to put your 1000 watter, wasnt that you? i use my droid to visit this site so its a pain in the ass to look back on shit...

and sorry about ur luck on the ceiling tiles. did you see my post on the angle iron to hang up lights? versatality at its finest. ratchets click right into the slotted angle iron any you have 8 feet to find studs. take clones of them if you can. i got a lot of extra ones if you need any. cheesewreck LSD chocolope KINGS KUSH just to name a few...

I would use CFLs they are cheap and work fine

dankshizzle said:

that will do fine.

i was quoting KG talking about hash and oil mixed making a chron-doh playdoh type shit. i was suggesting calling it in-doh not chron-doh.

The air cooling thing was for the question of how low to put your 1000 watter, wasnt that you? i use my droid to visit this site so its a pain in the ass to look back on shit...

and sorry about ur luck on the ceiling tiles. did you see my post on the angle iron to hang up lights? versatality at its finest. ratchets click right into the slotted angle iron any you have 8 feet to find studs. take clones of them if you can. i got a lot of extra ones if you need any. cheesewreck LSD chocolope KINGS KUSH just to name a few...

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I did ask a while back how close people can get their 1000w hoods to their plant tops with these newer setups. It seems the norm is about 24"..... I have a 4 x 4 box and my 600w works great because I can get more lumens to the plant tops than a 1000w setup. There are all sorts of new bulbs and hoods available and getting the 1000w light closer to my plant tops might make it worth it for me to run a 1000w. So far, the data tells me a 600w bulb is best for a confined space of my approximate size, but I'm still looking for any and all input. Thanks!

I would stay where your at
The 600 puts out plenty of light with less heat then the 1000
Just my opinion

Thanks for the input Dave.....

I'm all about maximizing though lol. Lots of people rave about their 1000w bulbs for single bulb grows.... Most of them place the bulb 2' away from their plant tops and probably fail to realize the fact that at a 2' distance they're putting about 1/3 of the lumens to the plant tops compared to a 600w @ 1'. Some people have told me 24" seems to be the magic number. I can't imagine a 1000w bulb being the bulb of choice for a single bulb grow at that distance without any overlapping is the thing. I figure it would be worth it for me if I could place a 1000w bulb 13 or 14 inches from the tops safely without heat probs but I don't know if that is practical or not. I'm curious what these new hoods can do!

The xxxtreme 6" with a digi1000 has a hell of a spread. But for a smaller space u def want a 600. My friends got a 1000 in a magnum hood (the hood takes up the whole ceiling) and it is waaaay to much. I try tellin him before he bought it but he wouldn't listen. He wanted biggest and baddest and now has dank mid section but tops are bleached.. I wanna get some 4/6's for cold spots... I fuckin love this neXtgen... I want to spend my rent or sell my car to buy more of them.

dankshizzle said:

The xxxtreme 6" with a digi1000 has a hell of a spread. But for a smaller space u def want a 600. My friends got a 1000 in a magnum hood (the hood takes up the whole ceiling) and it is waaaay to much. I try tellin him before he bought it but he wouldn't listen. He wanted biggest and baddest and now has dank mid section but tops are bleached.. I wanna get some 4/6's for cold spots... I fuckin love this neXtgen... I want to spend my rent or sell my car to buy more of them.

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lol nice.... Tops are bleached from heat? What distance is he running it from the tops and what distance are you running yours? What is the size of your spaces?

Thanks for the input, I'm just trying to gather as much hands on information as I can get. PS I'm a lot like your friend, but I don't want bleached tops ahahaha.

the lumens out put of the 1000 watt is to much for your tent
600watt outputs around 90000 lumens
1000 watt outputs around 140000 Lumens

Thanks for the info Green Dave, I appreciate sharing info.

Those numbers are right, but there's a catch. I'm not trying to argue by any means just sorting it out and trying to gather data collectively. To my knowledge you can't give a plant "too many" lumens. Lumens is just a gauge for the light intensity of these bulbs. I presume that it is the heat that is emitted by the bulb that causes a variety of problems when it is place too close to the canopy.

A 1000w bulb is 140,000 lumens base output, but the newer bulbs claim to go as high as 155,000. However the further the canopy is from the bulb the lumen intensity significantly decreases. Just like with a T5 bulb it is relative to distance. Based on the data I have a 1000w bulb at a distance of 20" puts out about 16,000 lumens. Take a 600w bulb's base output of 92,000 lumens. This bulb at 12" puts out 29,000 lumens. This is about where I run my 600w. Its not even close to the same performance. So my deduction is that the magic number for greater intensity of output on a 1000w bulb is going to be around 12"-13" where there is a significant advantage of lumens to the top of the plant 44k or 38k respectively. Not only that but a greater intensity of light to any of the lower canopy as well for deeper penetration. I'm basing all of my comparisons from what I know about my 600w bulb so keep in mind I have no actual experience with a 1000w system, I only have the performance data comparisons.

I just made my order for spring beans. I ordered 6 fem Cataract Kush(LA Confidential x OG Kush) and got 6 free Confidential Cheese(LA Confidential x Cheese) seeds both from reserva privada. I also have one Kandy Kush freebie from Reserva Privada and one Cole Train. I haven't tried any of these strains, but am a big fan of all of the parents, LA Con being one of my favorites. All strains are 8-9 weeks flowering so hopefully I wont be praying to the weather Gods in late October this year. I tried to pick strains that stink and are indica dominant. So my spring lineup will most likely be,(all Reserva Privada, all female)
3- Cataract Kush
3- Confidential Cheese
1- Kandy Kush
1- Cole Train

Anyone grown any of these outdoors? Indoors? Any reason to leave any of these strains out? I know 3 of these strains produce very dense buds and am a little worried about bud rot, but I figure as long as they finish early enough, it shouldn't be too much of a factor.

I've never had any of those but I sure would like to try them all! I'm needing some new strains, getting sick of the same old same old.

firelane said:

I just made my order for spring beans. I ordered 6 fem Cataract Kush(LA Confidential x OG Kush) and got 6 free Confidential Cheese(LA Confidential x Cheese) seeds both from reserva privada. I also have one Kandy Kush freebie from Reserva Privada and one Cole Train. I haven't tried any of these strains, but am a big fan of all of the parents, LA Con being one of my favorites. All strains are 8-9 weeks flowering so hopefully I wont be praying to the weather Gods in late October this year. I tried to pick strains that stink and are indica dominant. So my spring lineup will most likely be,(all Reserva Privada, all female)
3- Cataract Kush
3- Confidential Cheese
1- Kandy Kush
1- Cole Train

Anyone grown any of these outdoors? Indoors? Any reason to leave any of these strains out? I know 3 of these strains produce very dense buds and am a little worried about bud rot, but I figure as long as they finish early enough, it shouldn't be too much of a factor.

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i can vouch for the top two on your list