Dr Gruber
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thats probably a good idea.....i have never heard of Doc splitting up packs. i guess it doesn't hurt to ask but i'm pretty sure he wont do that.
Michigan Growers Tell Your Plans for This Year
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thats probably a good idea.....i have never heard of Doc splitting up packs. i guess it doesn't hurt to ask but i'm pretty sure he wont do that.
YeOldenDankster
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The Who:
Myself and my grim determination to grow the best guerilla grass this side of the Mississippi.
The Where:
A nice, untouched spot of private forest with a nice, open clearing in the middle of it all with a creek and swamps nearby. No flyovers, no hunters, too rural for other kinds of tresspassers. Plenty of coyotes to keep the deer population down, but the main reason why I don't go in unarmed. This foest is home to me.
The What:
I plan on getting some Mandala #1 and 8 Miles High when they're available next from Attitude, as they are better suited for northern climates. Also, the quality and type of stone is really appealing to me. The biggest reason, though, is because I support what Mandala does best: good, quality genetics just like nature intended them to be. It's as natural as I can get when it comes to cannabis genetics, so that's what I'll be growing.
I'm also interested in keeping some climatized seed stock, so of the 5 seeds of each strain that I plant I'll be hoping for at least one male that I can relocate with a female. The clearing is pretty huge, so segregation space shouldn't be an issue (I hope).
Also, if I feel confident, I'll probably do some clones.
The When:
I would love to have my plants in the ground by 4/20, and the weather is usually accomodating for this. If the frost just won't let up, however, I'll probably wait until mid-May.
The Why:
Because after tasting that sweet Wisconsin green, I can never go back to this local poopgrass. These hicks have no idea how to love and care for their plants.
The Challenges:
I have never grown before. Done plenty of research, but nothing beats hands-on experience.
It's a bit of a hike.
I don't have anywhere safe and secure to dry my buds, so I put together this plan for an outdoor drying box. The problem is going to be if it rains at all during harvest time, which is likely. I have from now until late Sept. to come up with an alternate solution, but as of now I have nothing.
It's going to take a lot of work, but I'm going to enjoy every minute of it.
Myself and my grim determination to grow the best guerilla grass this side of the Mississippi.
The Where:
A nice, untouched spot of private forest with a nice, open clearing in the middle of it all with a creek and swamps nearby. No flyovers, no hunters, too rural for other kinds of tresspassers. Plenty of coyotes to keep the deer population down, but the main reason why I don't go in unarmed. This foest is home to me.
The What:
I plan on getting some Mandala #1 and 8 Miles High when they're available next from Attitude, as they are better suited for northern climates. Also, the quality and type of stone is really appealing to me. The biggest reason, though, is because I support what Mandala does best: good, quality genetics just like nature intended them to be. It's as natural as I can get when it comes to cannabis genetics, so that's what I'll be growing.
I'm also interested in keeping some climatized seed stock, so of the 5 seeds of each strain that I plant I'll be hoping for at least one male that I can relocate with a female. The clearing is pretty huge, so segregation space shouldn't be an issue (I hope).
Also, if I feel confident, I'll probably do some clones.
The When:
I would love to have my plants in the ground by 4/20, and the weather is usually accomodating for this. If the frost just won't let up, however, I'll probably wait until mid-May.
The Why:
Because after tasting that sweet Wisconsin green, I can never go back to this local poopgrass. These hicks have no idea how to love and care for their plants.
The Challenges:
I have never grown before. Done plenty of research, but nothing beats hands-on experience.
It's a bit of a hike.
I don't have anywhere safe and secure to dry my buds, so I put together this plan for an outdoor drying box. The problem is going to be if it rains at all during harvest time, which is likely. I have from now until late Sept. to come up with an alternate solution, but as of now I have nothing.
It's going to take a lot of work, but I'm going to enjoy every minute of it.
kbmed$
Member
how far do you have to carry water? the best thing i can think of is going to tractor supply or somthing of the sort selling farm equipt. get the diesel cans they come in bigger sizes i belive 5-7-10 gallons for tractors..if you have the option i like to dig a large hole about 4 ft deep and line it with pond plastic and then backfil it with soil and grass this way it looks like a natural ditch or maybe where a tree trunk pulled out of the ground use that hole itll fill with water and then you can just take a bucket out with you and use rain water..if you make a bunch of them in random places youll never run out of water..
ive also used 55 gallon drums and painted them cammo and wrapped them in the sourrounding plants and trees and just put a screen on the top of it so itll fill with water and not leaves if you keep it off the ground you can put a spicket in the bottom and then use a hose to water the plants..
where the knowledge comes from...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6eCpRPcHOY
kbmed$
Member
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"The When:
I would love to have my plants in the ground by 4/20, and the weather is usually accomodating for this. If the frost just won't let up, however, I'll probably wait until mid-May."
not tryn to burst you bubble here but i wouldnt put the plants out until mid may in a norther cliamate like mi..most cases itll be good for a few weeks and youll get slammed with cold weather and rain..
I usually start clones inside about march and then when i know for sure the weather is good in mid-late may ill throw them outside..this way the plants are already about 2-3 ft tall and will survive anything after the transplant I'll also keep the plant short while its inside topping the plant over and over since the sun has enough power to push any number of tops on the plant..you'll also want a bush more than a tree to keep it from being seen a short 6-7 foot tall maybe same width has a better chance of not being seen than a 14ft tall bean pole..trust me on that I learned the hard way having 14ft monsters that where around 6 ft wide..which you can see in the video in my post above...dumped alot of pics in this thread when it first began..havent been on here in a while since the raid
also growing outdoors has its challenges but youll be in good hands in this thread the nest advice i can give you is dig your holes big EARLY like 3ft x 3ft and backfill with peat moss and perlite and half native soil this will help your plants ALOT..then find yourself a good outdoor nutrient that lasts for a few weeks so your not out there all the time for me personally advanced nutes heavy harvest is the best stuff I've used for outdoor it'll last about 3 weeks and you can weigh out the amount you want for each plant bag it up and then throw it on the plants when you get out there usually 30-50g per small plant and in flowering when they are 5x5 give them about 100-150g of nutes..youve got the sun and rain on your side so most of the growing is out of your hands just remember to be safe and very aware of your surroundings a trail cam is a good idea to make sure nothing and no one has come thru..ALWAYS take a different path each time the heli's can see your trail clear as day from the air..look at deer paths on google earth and look at the sat veiws to see what it looks like from the air already..also its a good idea to wear camo and hunting mask w glasses if leo finds it and decides to leave it and throw a camera they got your face next to the plants if its off your property thats the only way they can stick the plants to you short of actually catching you on site
"The When:
I would love to have my plants in the ground by 4/20, and the weather is usually accomodating for this. If the frost just won't let up, however, I'll probably wait until mid-May."
not tryn to burst you bubble here but i wouldnt put the plants out until mid may in a norther cliamate like mi..most cases itll be good for a few weeks and youll get slammed with cold weather and rain..
I usually start clones inside about march and then when i know for sure the weather is good in mid-late may ill throw them outside..this way the plants are already about 2-3 ft tall and will survive anything after the transplant I'll also keep the plant short while its inside topping the plant over and over since the sun has enough power to push any number of tops on the plant..you'll also want a bush more than a tree to keep it from being seen a short 6-7 foot tall maybe same width has a better chance of not being seen than a 14ft tall bean pole..trust me on that I learned the hard way having 14ft monsters that where around 6 ft wide..which you can see in the video in my post above...dumped alot of pics in this thread when it first began..havent been on here in a while since the raid
also growing outdoors has its challenges but youll be in good hands in this thread the nest advice i can give you is dig your holes big EARLY like 3ft x 3ft and backfill with peat moss and perlite and half native soil this will help your plants ALOT..then find yourself a good outdoor nutrient that lasts for a few weeks so your not out there all the time for me personally advanced nutes heavy harvest is the best stuff I've used for outdoor it'll last about 3 weeks and you can weigh out the amount you want for each plant bag it up and then throw it on the plants when you get out there usually 30-50g per small plant and in flowering when they are 5x5 give them about 100-150g of nutes..youve got the sun and rain on your side so most of the growing is out of your hands just remember to be safe and very aware of your surroundings a trail cam is a good idea to make sure nothing and no one has come thru..ALWAYS take a different path each time the heli's can see your trail clear as day from the air..look at deer paths on google earth and look at the sat veiws to see what it looks like from the air already..also its a good idea to wear camo and hunting mask w glasses if leo finds it and decides to leave it and throw a camera they got your face next to the plants if its off your property thats the only way they can stick the plants to you short of actually catching you on site
YeOldenDankster
Member
No bubbles to burst, here, friend. Thank you for your advice, and I'm taking notes everywhere I read something relevant to me. As for the climate, I have some nice lake effect weather that helps regulate the temperature, and I'm pretty close to the southern border. I'll keep my hopes high, but I'm not opposed to planting late. Also, I don't have any way to "pre-grow" my plants indoors aside from the usual seed germination, so my veg time is gonna take a hit there.
Once again, thanks for the tips.
EDIT: http://www.advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/products/heavy_harvest/heavy_harvest_product_information.php
Bad news, bro, looks like they discontinued Heavy Harvest...
firelane
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Putting plants out in April is also bad because they will often start to flower. Earliest start does not always equal biggest plants. It definitely helps, but if your plants get good enough light from June-Sept they will be plenty big. Last year I got my plants out a month later than I'd planned and my harvest was still above my expectations.
When picking a spot for sunlight, remember that the sun's path changes as the year goes on. So find a spot with as much southern exposure as possible, because in Sept, the suns path will be low, and if you have no southern exposure your plants will be shaded when they need the light most.
And I have used heavy harvest for 2 years now, and it is great. That link still lists it for sale? Where does it say discontinued?
When picking a spot for sunlight, remember that the sun's path changes as the year goes on. So find a spot with as much southern exposure as possible, because in Sept, the suns path will be low, and if you have no southern exposure your plants will be shaded when they need the light most.
And I have used heavy harvest for 2 years now, and it is great. That link still lists it for sale? Where does it say discontinued?
Sunbiz1
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Sorry to hear about the drought failure.
I'm not all that far from you, and I cancelled the annual guerrilla grow last May...no way I was spending all summer hauling water in 5 gals. I have started seeds as late as July 1st and still achieved some nice results, not monster plants by any means but nice 3 foot bushes. That's why I love outdoor sun schedule, the very gradual reduction in daylight provides way more veg during early flower as opposed 2/simply changing a timer indoors from 18 to 12.
Peace
james42
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If you cant get them going indoors ahead of time you should atleast shelter them for the first few weeks outside. A little makeshift greenhouse made out of a clear Rubbermaid tub works good. All takes is one little bug to come along and chop a seedling down.
It would be better to just get a floro shop light and start them inside though
YeOldenDankster
Member
It's before you click a regional preference, it will say that this product has been discontinued in big red letters. I chose the "Illinois" location, and it now won't show it anymore. Not sure what's going on, I hope it isn't discontinued. If not, should I purchase the summer blend only?
firelane
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I have the summer and fall blends. I don't buy the spring because I veg so much indoors and put down good soil with enough nutrients to last until its time for the summer blend. Plus any time I need to get the plants greener in veg, fish emulsion is easy enough. I give each plant about 1 solo cup of nutrients per month, so one cup of summer blend in late June, another cup of Summer in late July, and last feed one cup of Fall blend in late August and these nutes are about used up when I harvest in late Sept/early Oct.
I haven't used the spring, for all I know it could be what my grow is missing, but if you can only buy 1 mix, I would chose the summer mix. If you can buy two get the summer and fall, and if money is not an issue maybe try all 3.
I haven't used the spring, for all I know it could be what my grow is missing, but if you can only buy 1 mix, I would chose the summer mix. If you can buy two get the summer and fall, and if money is not an issue maybe try all 3.
james42
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I think im gonna do my iranian autos in smart pots. What do you guys think a good size pot for them would be? Im vegging them for two months indoors and then putting them out to flower. At first I was thinking 20 gallon pots but the more I think about it that might be overkill considering it will have less then 5 months of total growth. 5gal? 10gal?
I would put them in the ground but these girls are going to the swamp.
I would put them in the ground but these girls are going to the swamp.
firelane
Well-Known Member
Get the 20gal. I used them 2 years ago, and by the end of the year, the roots had grown through the bag and into the ground. Maybe with autos you will have a month or two shorter season, so you can get away with smaller. Are you worried about them soaking up too much water in a swamp area? Also, the smaller the pot, the more you will have to water if it is ever dry.
james42
Well-Known Member
Ill get them off the ground with something. There surrounded by water and its close to home so im not worried about them drying out.
Ill probably go with 20 gallons. This crop is just to give me a boost mid summer until my big trees finish up. Im gonna do 10 iranians. If I get 1.5-2pounds dry ill consider it a succes.
Ill be doing 10-15 irg13s in 3×3 holes at my other spot
Ill probably go with 20 gallons. This crop is just to give me a boost mid summer until my big trees finish up. Im gonna do 10 iranians. If I get 1.5-2pounds dry ill consider it a succes.
Ill be doing 10-15 irg13s in 3×3 holes at my other spot
smellzlikeskunkyum
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well shiznigity bombdizzle and all of that great stuff. thats my plans.
no seriously... gonna till dirt real good and put some goodies in it.
You guys REALLY like smoking those auto's?? i havent had a chance knowingly yet. i have a WOS NL x BB Auto FEM seed, its my only auto and its a freebie.
EDIT: not that im knocking them or anything! im thinking about getting more maybe?
no seriously... gonna till dirt real good and put some goodies in it.
You guys REALLY like smoking those auto's?? i havent had a chance knowingly yet. i have a WOS NL x BB Auto FEM seed, its my only auto and its a freebie.
EDIT: not that im knocking them or anything! im thinking about getting more maybe?
smellzlikeskunkyum
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heres what i came up with last year... dinafem blue widow are the first two, and some casey jones in the last two
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james42
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You guys REALLY like smoking those auto's?? i havent had a chance knowingly yet. i have a WOS NL x BB Auto FEM seed, its my only auto and its a freebie.
EDIT: not that im knocking them or anything! im thinking about getting more maybe?[/QUOTE]
Its not really a auto. He just calls it that because it flowers so early. Yeild and potency is real good
EDIT: not that im knocking them or anything! im thinking about getting more maybe?[/QUOTE]
Its not really a auto. He just calls it that because it flowers so early. Yeild and potency is real good
kbmed$
Member
shitty lol i still have like 5 gal of each laying around..im surprised they dont make it anymore they were cheaper and worked very well..
it does suck you can veg your plants indoors for a lil bit outside of germ..i would recomend clones in that case if you have your card and can get your hands on some..they'll grow a bit faster and reach matuirty alot quicker do to clone vigor.. im mid state so we have about the same climate maybe im a few degrees colder but i'd bet on mid may being your best best on getting a good start with small plants