Michigan Growers Tell Your Plans for This Year

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hic

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cmt1984 said:
it wont last forever because people cant abide by the law.
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It won't last forever because there is power and money to be had.

It won't last forever because the ones that cannot afford the meds will be telling the courts "foul".

Twisted ways = pissed off Americans

Many reasons why it will not last.. As it is now.
 
hammer6913

hammer6913

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thanks hic, but i was not in combat. i took a nasty fall off my tank and landed on my neck and shoulder. my term was in 78 to 81 and there were no wars at that time. i wish i had retired from the service. ya think ya know it all when ur young. my point was that none of the politicians care about us. just money in there pockets. thanks to all our service men and womn. hoo ah
 
fatality

fatality

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hic said:
It won't last forever because there is power and money to be had.

It won't last forever because the ones that cannot afford the meds will be telling the courts "foul".

Twisted ways = pissed off Americans

Many reasons why it will not last.. As it is now.
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that's a very pessimistic view on how the whole thing is gunna play out. I don't see eye to eye with you on that particular matter at all. I believe in the thought that if you fight for your right you will have it sooner or later, cuz really, who the fuck wants to live in a mindset like that throughout their whole life..... it would make life,to me, unimaginable. fuck the government, they all can suck a dick, but we all know that already. what we need to realize is what is important to us, and keep that as close to our soul as we can, and never let a greedy money-hungry bastard ever take it. thats what i do and my life is peachy keen lil jellybean. for 2012 optimism sure beats the fuck outta the inevitable..........
 
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tcmike

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delstele said:
I understood what you said here it is again in the quote.. I totally agree the greed has to stop but one cannot ask the government to step in fix this then back off..Ever seen them give up power? It don't work that way once they have its gone for you and me. Mr Obama is and will go down in history as the worst president in modern times and I am not kidding one bit! Now look I agree with a lot of what you say but you cannot have it both ways I have run my own business for over 25 years I have never in those years seen one single person try to destroy what small business in america is,has been all about since this country started than Mr Obama.Thats who is keeping us all goin for now small business people. Look at it like this: If you are a small business say ya got 4 employees they make ruffly 40,000 a year add it up that 160,000 you the owner make 60,000 it all adds up to 220,000 who dose Mr Obama want to raise taxes on? You guessed it! Now how long do you think a person can sustain said business for the long haul? These are business's the backbone of the american economy if you tax the shit outta them they will close there door in a heart beat. People that build a business are not stupid they see the writing on the wall. Are they getting rich? Not by a long shot greedy fucking rich basters ...LMFAO!!!!! They are all out to get you is a fucking joke and a bad one at that. We are all just trying to make a living just like you.


Do I respect what he did for himself yes I do but sadly that where it ends. He is arrogant outta touch with where he came from he don't give a rats ass if you are doing good. Just like the rest of the powers that be they all have an agenda get elected do some favors so they will live the rest of there lives reaping the rewards of those favors. A prime example of this is Obamas buddy Grandholem....Who is she workin for now?


I'm going back to talkin bout growing this shit just gets my underwear in a bunch I don't like it when my sack feels all bunched up...LOL
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Destele you need to get yourself a new accountant if you think your taxes are going up. You don't pay fed tax on the gross of your business. After you deduct all your expenses & your personal exemptions you are no way near 250k. All Obama wants to do is put the tax back where it was before the Bush tax cuts for the rich. You need to listen to somebody besides Beck, Hannity & Limbaugh.
 
Mary I Wanna

Mary I Wanna

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Destele you need to get yourself a new accountant if you think your taxes are going up. You don't pay fed tax on the gross of your business. After you deduct all your expenses & your personal exemptions you are no way near 250k. All Obama wants to do is put the tax back where it was before the Bush tax cuts for the rich. You need to listen to somebody besides Beck, Hannity & Limbaugh.
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Destele,
we are just gonna have to agree to disagree.. Rich people paying more income tax isn't being bias against or punishing them. We all pay the same percentage of our income in taxes.. I guarantee you paying 30% of income in taxes, hurts a middle class family way more then it hurts the people making millions.... Like tcmike said, Obama is just trying to fix the mess ups Bush made... The mess ups that wrecked the economy of not only our country, but the economy of the entire world...
 
Shwagbag

Shwagbag

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Mary I Wanna said:
Destele,
we are just gonna have to agree to disagree.. Rich people paying more income tax isn't being bias against or punishing them. We all pay the same percentage of our income in taxes.. I guarantee you paying 30% of income in taxes, hurts a middle class family way more then it hurts the people making millions.... Like tcmike said, Obama is just trying to fix the mess ups Bush made... The mess ups that wrecked the economy of not only our country, but the economy of the entire world...
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I really want no part of this conversation lol but..... Just to clarify, we do not all pay the same percentage of income in taxes.
 
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hic

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joe - pics are coming. enough pics later on for me to get respect from the boys from Cali. lol. My shotglass plant 12/12 Sunday.

I do not know much about politics at all. So I cannot partake in the current conversation. All I can say is shit ain't right and I ain't the one that messed shit up. I also know that there are not nearly enough "commoners" running for office's.

But again it is not really the "commoners" fault for not having enough money for the voice... eh there is few exception but exceptions is all they are.
 
Mary I Wanna

Mary I Wanna

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I really want no part of this conversation lol but..... Just to clarify, we do not all pay the same percentage of income in taxes.
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2010 tax rates
Tax rateSingle filersMarried filing
jointly or qualifying
widow/widowerMarried filing
separatelyHead of
household10%Up to $8,375Up to $16,750Up to $8,375Up to $11,95015%$8,376 - $34,000$16,751 - $68,000$8,376 - $34,000$11,951 - $45,55025%$34,001 - $82,400$68,001 - $137,300$34,001 - $68,650$45,551 - $117,65028%$82,401 - $171,850$137,301 - $209,250$68,651 - $104,625$117,651 - $190,55033%$171,851 - $373,650$209,251 - $373,650$104,626 - $186,825$190,551 - $373,65035%$373,651 or more$373,651 or more$186,826 or more$373,651 or more

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My bad, Can you tell I don't do my own taxes lol.. There's a 10% difference from middle class to upper class.. I had something else to say but I cant remember what it was.. I ate some shrooms and they are starting toh iit me pretty hard.. It's taken me 35 min to write this..
 
delstele

delstele

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tcmike said:
Destele you need to get yourself a new accountant if you think your taxes are going up. You don't pay fed tax on the gross of your business. After you deduct all your expenses & your personal exemptions you are no way near 250k. All Obama wants to do is put the tax back where it was before the Bush tax cuts for the rich. You need to listen to somebody besides Beck, Hannity & Limbaugh.
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Uh your making assumptions dude I'm sure you know the saying..It must be the government education.

Mary I Wanna said:
Destele,
we are just gonna have to agree to disagree.. Rich people paying more income tax isn't being bias against or punishing them. We all pay the same percentage of our income in taxes.. I guarantee you paying 30% of income in taxes, hurts a middle class family way more then it hurts the people making millions.... Like tcmike said, Obama is just trying to fix the mess ups Bush made... The mess ups that wrecked the economy of not only our country, but the economy of the entire world...
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Yup its the god dam rich people they are out to fuck us all \ its all Mr Bushes fault..Keep thinking along those lines Mr Obama will save you...LMFAO! Yes we will have to agree to disagree... Now back to the regular scheduled program...:sleep:
 
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hic

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Sounds like a good batch delstele!


Looks like this morning I am in need of a second opinion from a pot doc. The pics show the scenario. I have about 4 plants doing this. I do not think it is a water issue for I have been on top of that. I do not think it is an over fert issue because I have not really put much nutes on em " just a touch of nutes".

So I am wondering if they are lacking something? Although when it is time to be serious, sometimes it is a good idea to seek council.
 
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