Michigan House Panel Signs off on Medical Marijuana Dispensaries, Edible Products

thecatsmeow

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An Update from http://www.mlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/12/michigan_house_approves_return.html


LANSING, MI -- The Michigan House on Thursday advanced legislation to update the state's voter-approved medical marijuana law by allowing for dispensaries and a variety of edible products.

Medical marijuana storefronts had operated in several Michigan communities until a February ruling by the state Supreme Court empowered county prosecutors to shut them down as a "public nuisance."
Bipartisan legislation introduced by Republican Rep. Mike Callton of Nashville and approved Thursday in a 95-14 vote, would pave the way for the return of dispensaries -- or "provisioning centers" -- but allow local communities to prohibit them if desired.
Dispensaries would have to provide municipalities with test results ensuring that the medical marijuana they sell is free of contaminants. Edible products would have to be clearly labelled. House Bill 4271 also would prohibit on-premises cultivation or use of the drug and generally prohibit new dispensaries from opening within 1,000 feet of a school.
Callton fine-tuned the bipartisan bill with input from municipalities and law enforcement officials. Those groups still have some concerns about definitions but no longer oppose the legislation, which Callton has championed as a way to improve patient access and care.
"If you get your recommendation from a doctor, instead of waiting four to six months for someone to grow plants for you -- and you may be dead by then -- you'll be able to go right away to a provisioning center and get the medicine you need," Callton told MLive on Tuesday.
Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette, who joined the lawsuit to shut down medical marijuana dispensaries and has celebrated their closure, remains concerned about any legislation that would allow similar facilities to re-open.
"As the state's top law enforcement officer, Attorney General Schuette opposes any effort to legalize drugs," said spokesperson Joy Yearout. "Communities across Michigan have already struggled with dispensaries selling drugs near schools and churches. Marijuana remains a Schedule 1 drug, and expanding sales will undermine public safety and endanger our children."
Yearout called the 1,000-foot radius around schools a "cold comfort" that does not assuage the attorney general's fears.
House Bill 5104, sponsored by Republican Rep. Eileen Kowall of White Lake and approved Thursday in a 100-9 vote, would update the medical marijuana law to clarify that multiple parts of the plant -- including dried leaves, resin and extracts -- can be eaten or otherwise used as medicine.
The Michigan Court of appeals ruled in July that "pot brownies" are not a usable form of marijuana under the medical law. The plaintiff is appealing, but the decision has clouded the legal status of various "medibles," which many patients prefer as a healthier alternative to smoking.
Kowall, speaking on the House floor before the vote, said her bill will give patients the ability to "choose the delivery method that works best for their afflictions," referencing vaporization, tinctures, topical creams and edibles. "It also provides much needed legal clarity that patients need and deserve."
The dispensary and edibles bills, approved on the last session day of the year, now head to the Senate. Under the Legislature's five-day rule, they cannot be taken up until 2014.
The House also approved a separate proposal to create a "pharmaceutical-grade cannabis" registry if the federal government ever reclassifies marijuana as a Schedule II drug fit for medical use.
Senate Bill 660 could eventually allow the state to license large-scale growers to produce marijuana for sale in pharmacies. Creation of the registry would be dependent on federal approval, and the system would not replace the current patient-caregiver model.
Patients who wanted access to the pharmaceutical registry would have to give up their medical marijuana cards, however, meaning they could no longer grow their own plants.
Sponsoring Sen. Roger Kahn, R-Saginaw Township, is a medical doctor who has stressed the importance of offering patients carefully grown and consistently dosed marijuana.
Former state House Speaker Chuck Perricone, who worked on the legislation with Kahn, now works for Prairie Plant Systems. The bio-pharmaceutical company is a medical marijuana provider in Canada and would like to grow the plant in a former copper mine in Michigan's Upper Peninsula.
A House amendment adopted Thursday would allow minors to access the pharmaceutical registry upon recommendation of two physicians. Because of that change, the bill returns to the Senate for additional consideration and possible concurrence.
Update: The Senate signed off on House changes to the pharmaceutical-grade medical marijuana bill later Thursday evening in a narrow 20-18 vote. The legislation is now headed to the governor's desk with immediate effect -- but without the ability to be implemented absent federal approval.
 

thecatsmeow

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Some one said in the new bill you can have as many clones as your heart desires as long as they are
under 12". Does anyone know if that is still in the bill?

Also, does the bill say anything about the testing facilities? It would not take that much upfront cash
to run a non profit testing facility paid for by caregivers for caregivers. If the current places that
test, start jacking prices something would have to be done.
This is where you can find House Bill 4271: http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(3d012o455u24ma5510zpaart))/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectname=2013-HB-4271
And this is where you can find House Bill 5104: http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(ssy1yl45qwwomzibgahwkhfh))/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectname=2013-HB-5104
 

CashCrops

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Some one said in the new bill you can have as many clones as your heart desires as long as they are
under 12". Does anyone know if that is still in the bill?

Also, does the bill say anything about the testing facilities? It would not take that much upfront cash
to run a non profit testing facility paid for by caregivers for caregivers. If the current places that
test, start jacking prices something would have to be done.
I searched both documents for the words "Clone" "inches" "12" and found nothing. I'm not saying your right or wrong just saying I searched.
 

slumdog80

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Thanks Cash, it was from word of mouth. I am a little unsure on the height part anyway, it may of been 8"
 

CashCrops

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Well, if you notice in the first part of these new bills they still refer to the original 2008 bill and these are new amendments to that one. So if I'm correct, it's still 12 plants and 2.5 ounces per card holder.
 

potsnoberry

Active Member
Testing doesn't become mandatory until 4/15, but once begun, allows no detectible amounts of mold, fungi or pesticides. This type of broad stroke regulation has caused problems in other states because even organic "pesticide" solutions are banned. No neem, nothing bio-engineereed, no bio-war. You would really have to be at the top of your game to satisify those requirements.
 

Healenz

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Wow, I'm surprised good news comes with such moaning and growning lol. As of right now testing is fast and cheap - anyone with a relationship with a dispensary should know this. I think those that worry dispensaries will grow their own or have a "Group" grow for them or whatever is wrong... the dispensaries are making money (a lot of money) I doubt there are many successful ones willing to risk that by violating the law.

And for those bitching about "Making a profit" you had to expect with legality would come tight regulation. You can't brew up some whisky in your basement and sell it to just anyone... what makes you think they'll let you sell your bud?
 

MFB

Active Member
Hmm I wonder what dispensaries pay an ounce. I got some overages I would like to get rid of legally.
 

leaffan

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Testing doesn't become mandatory until 4/15, but once begun, allows no detectible amounts of mold, fungi or pesticides. This type of broad stroke regulation has caused problems in other states because even organic "pesticide" solutions are banned. No neem, nothing bio-engineereed, no bio-war. You would really have to be at the top of your game to satisify those requirements.
Nothing on heavy metals?
 

MFB

Active Member
I wonder what community is going to turn down a dispensary making all that tax money. A lot of dispensaries making all that tax money.
 

ProdigalSun

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Well, if you notice in the first part of these new bills they still refer to the original 2008 bill and these are new amendments to that one. So if I'm correct, it's still 12 plants and 2.5 ounces per card holder.
Or it might be, an uninterrupted supply, who the hell knows?

Hmm I wonder what dispensaries pay an ounce. I got some overages I would like to get rid of legally.
Depends on the kind, and how they set up the business. First time I did, I told them that it would be on the 10 dollar side of the table, that it was good, but not top shelf. They liked that I didnt try to BS them. I asked for 6 a gram knowing they would bank 4 and thats what I got. Next time it was better, I ran it at 7 a gram.

You'll have to establish this for yourself. Don't be greedy, be real be honest, and when you're selling always remember the bad shit you had to put up with when you were buying, and don't do it back to others.

I wonder what community is going to turn down a dispensary making all that tax money. A lot of dispensaries making all that tax money.
Many of them do. I have to leave my county to get mine, it's closer than the nearest one to me in my own.
 

CashCrops

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Hmm I wonder what dispensaries pay an ounce. I got some overages I would like to get rid of legally.
Average around Detroit is around 100-130 and That's if it's fire. Most of what I see at dispensaries near me are ok. One on Woodward near 6 mile has Orange crush and it's amazing.
 

hockey4848

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Average around Detroit is around 100-130 and That's if it's fire. Most of what I see at dispensaries near me are ok. One on Woodward near 6 mile has Orange crush and it's amazing.
100-130 an ounce for fire?

maybe for some bunk outdoor. I personally know of clubs paying 225+ for fire.
 

Healenz

Active Member
I think most of the places around Detroit are going to try to get it for $150 and will probably be pressed to $200-225 if you have fire, they are low and you work them hard.
 

ProdigalSun

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28g X 10$ a gram = 280. They can give you 200. They make 80$ a jar.

28g X 15$ a gram = 420. They can give you 300. They make 120$ a jar.

28g X 20$ a gram = 560, They can give you 400. They make 160$ a jar.

Anyone who wants more can go kick rocks.
 

MFB

Active Member
100 an ounce? That is a rip off.

With colas like I get I can get 240/oz on the street if I needed to. Most growers can also. The dispensaries would have to have some reason to get you to sell to them than on the street. And not have the excuse "well atleast your selling it legally". Because if you paid taxes on that 100 you would be getting around 70$, and thats very sad.
 

unkle mouse

Active Member
hells bells I could by ketchup for my noodles with that... lol.. jk


28g X 10$ a gram = 280. They can give you 200. They make 80$ a jar.

28g X 15$ a gram = 420. They can give you 300. They make 120$ a jar.

28g X 20$ a gram = 560, They can give you 400. They make 160$ a jar.

Anyone who wants more can go kick rocks.
 
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