Michigan

well i called them but the line was busy... so im gona roll one up and then go for a little drive to see what this place is. i will post again when i get back.

State issued licence ??

I went there yesterday...nice guys but the prices are a bit steep. 450 per z, 20 per g. I got a g each of Killawatt and Pineapple. The Killa is real nice, pineapple was so-so.

im shocked how SUB par all the bud is. everywhere you go its $15-25 a gram and NOT top notch nugs by any means. it makes me so angry that i decided today that im done buying it. i got a bunch of regs today and i will continue to smoke this stuff till i harvest. it will also help my tolerance.

copy that rzza-
i'll do the same

cmt1984 said:

as a fellow Michigander you know i'm down for this thread. i would LOVE to get that dr's number from you, my gastroenterologist wants to put me on a bunch of pills before he gives me a mmj referral and my PCP agrees with him so ive been lookin for a mmj doctor.

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Hiya from the Mile High CMT,
A good place to start to look for a MMJ friendly doctor would be caregivers/dispensers. Out here disps and docs work real close together until they pass this insipid bill limiting all the strides we've made out here thus far.
The winds of change are blowing. Once California passes their recreational legalization bill it'll spread across the nation just like MMJ did. It's only a matter of time.

-Just
Lincoln Park native transplanted to Denver

rzza said:

a patient just stopped by my house and brought some of what he called white widow/buddha. thats all he knew tho. any clue what it is? its good good good.

its on the left. on the right is my purple kush. the plant is my wwisow from dinafem still in veg, topped a bunch of times.

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Wow! If you have some White Widow I'm coming over to yer place!!!! LOL

http://michigan.budtrader.com/www-miclonezone-com/

looks like another dispensary.

i think the area code says its near lansing.

Howell.

The miclonezone guy says his Sour Diesel was bought from Dutch Passion seeds...?

When the heck has Dutch passion EVER offered Diesel, yet alone sour diesel or Chemdog for that matter, since they are all related. I think i smell something wrong with these guys right off the bat. Given that ive been looking for sour diesel so bad, i'm probably gonna pick them up and see just if they are. But sour (true ECSD) like i'm looking for is clone only, but might have been available in a nice form by rez.

shit, we are gettin hammered by rain right now...have been all day. it hailed for about 20 minutes too, marble sized hail. there is no sign of letting up either...we may end up with 3 or 4 inches of rain by the time its done.. this is bad, we're gona lose a shit load of money on this one. everybody else gettin this rain? you might wana go dig some drainage ditches for your plants tomorrow if ya got em outside..

none here. well not since this morning i guess. its chilly tho and i think were expecting more rain.

click my link that about 4 posts up and scroll down to the comments, someone linked my journal in there. i dont understand whats going on...

but they copy/pasted my post 5 posts up.... so confused right now .....

I had a meeting with our local prosecutor this week and walked into the lions den to talk mj shop talk.Heres some of the highlights of the questions we discussed.

Dispenc's: Not covered under current law and will be busting them.............
p to p transfers: not covered under current law............
medabiles: Not a issue and they will not wieght the cookie or what have ya. Would have to seperate the mj out of the cookie to wieght that amount so they wont count them as long as ya dont have a fridge full of butter or something....
Paperwork instead of the card after the 20 day period.: No problem as the law spells that out so the paperwork is fine......
Plant counts ( clones,, rooted or unrooted ): They count as your plant count if in your grow in a plug or pot. They just dont know about this yet and cant tell the diffrents between rooted or not so they'll be counting them in your plant count. We have a case here with one of our members that had 4 un-rooted clones and they charged him for being 4 plants over count.Courts will decide this one here shortly.


So, that how our county is looking at things and I think they'll be going after any dispenc that opens here in Michigan. That we'll just have to see and I'll be standing back to watch. Hope they dont but I see this coming as we get closer to the 2 years mark of this law. I know Rhode Island didnt let these fly and made them add it to there law, so,,, we'll see...

Thanks for the update Krusty, I was going to go to a dispensary today...change of plans.

Kruzty said:

I had a meeting with our local prosecutor this week and walked into the lions den to talk mj shop talk.Heres some of the highlights of the questions we discussed.

Dispenc's: Not covered under current law and will be busting them.............
dispensary doesnt need to be spelled out in the law, their run as a collective. i call it dispensary cuz thats the word people know. i can pull the excerpt again if you need but the law clearly states that its legal to make p2p and c2p transfers for cash trade. all collectives employ only caregiver and patients, usually their both. the prosecutor can say what he wants but i know the truth. collective 'owners' (lack of better word) are also very comfortable with the law and their business. there may be touchy subjects within ie; where can the collective get their meds etc.. but for a patient to go to a 'dispensary' we have no worries. it seems like you may be trying to open one yourself? why are you asking the prosecuting atty rather then your lawyer? did you take a mmj witty lawyer with you and the law printed on paper to put on the atty desk?
p to p transfers: not covered under current law............
i disagree. (i) A person shall not be subject to arrest, prosecution, or penalty in any manner, or denied any right or privilege, including but not limited to civil penalty or disciplinary action by a business or occupational or professional licensing board or bureau, solely for being in the presence or vicinity of the medical use of marihuana in accordance with this act, or for assisting a registered qualifying patient with using or administering marihuana.

(k) Any registered qualifying patient or registered primary caregiver who sells marihuana to someone who is not allowed to use marihuana for medical purposes under this act shall have his or her registry identification card revoked and is guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment for not more than 2 years or a fine of not more than $2,000.00, or both, in addition to any other penalties for the distribution of marihuana.

medabiles: Not a issue and they will not wieght the cookie or what have ya. Would have to seperate the mj out of the cookie to wieght that amount so they wont count them as long as ya dont have a fridge full of butter or something....
Paperwork instead of the card after the 20 day period.: No problem as the law spells that out so the paperwork is fine......
other counties do NOT have the same feelings on this and they are arresting anyone without the physical cards.
Plant counts ( clones,, rooted or unrooted ): They count as your plant count if in your grow in a plug or pot. They just dont know about this yet and cant tell the diffrents between rooted or not so they'll be counting them in your plant count. We have a case here with one of our members that had 4 un-rooted clones and they charged him for being 4 plants over count.Courts will decide this one here shortly.
im excited to see what the courts decide, its truely not specified in our law.


So, that how our county is looking at things and I think they'll be going after any dispenc that opens here in Michigan. That we'll just have to see and I'll be standing back to watch. Hope they dont but I see this coming as we get closer to the 2 years mark of this law. I know Rhode Island didnt let these fly and made them add it to there law, so,,, we'll see...

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they can only go after dispensaries in berrien county (assuming thats where you are talking about).

im glad to see you took the time to go ask these questions. were they nice and courteous to you or did they have the shit eatin grin the whole time?

Yes yes most true and I didn't say I aggreed with him just was bring his point out for all to see. Just cuz thats what we'd like it to be dont make it so and if there side of the fence like on the paperwork dont match from county to county then they and us have issues. Same goes on the dispenc thing. May be ok in ann arbor but not in Berrien. These will be settled in court I'm sure. I just let folks know whats spelled out and whats not and no thats not spelled out in our law anywheres. Yep asked several lawyers and got the same answer. Maybe a gray area but gray gets ya in front of the courts sad as that is....
No we not looking to start a dispenc, but I know folks that are and more power to them. They've way more money for lawyers then our poor club so more power to them.
On the transfers I stand wit ya and the ACLU does too so I just let him speak his mind and informed him otherwise. Did I change his mind ?? Nope.... That will be the courts job. This ties right into the dispenc thing as ya cant trans to anyone but your patients.
Paperwork issue brings up another problem as some county like Berrien honor the paperwork and some dont. Laws spells that out pretty clearly but as ya know folks read laws diffrently. This again will have to be dealt with on the state level and has a very easy fix.....
GET US OUR CARDS ON TIME DUH.........

Plant count,,,,, yep tried to explain how that works but ya know how that went hehehehehe. We've one case in Grand rapids I think that ruled that un-rooted clones DONT count so again we'll have to see unless this gets addressed at the state level.
On medabiles I was suprised as some states have ruled they count and wieght the whole dam cookie or what have ya.I just let that one go......

You have to remember this is Berrien and Breein county is prolly the most tight ass county in the state. The only reason he aggreed to the meetings is I got his face plastered all over the t.v for busting a poor sick man for 4 un-rooted clones over. He brought up that 63% a few times so the shit eatin grin is gone. I'll make ya f'in famous so have no fear....................
They where of course courteous as he was the last time I spoke to him about this last year in 3 oaks. He understands we're not going away and after a year said he stands behind our law instead of say'in all of us are just out to get high. Hard for him to deni when ya show up in a wheelchair or can barely walk.............
Again I'm just reporting there side here in the sw but make no dought these guys ALL talk between themselfs so just cuz they've not busted a dispenc yet dont mean thats not coming. Asked the hundreds thats been raided in Cali that. Spelled out or not these will be hasseled. I commend the owners thats willing to hit the courts to find out if it's legal here or not.
I can only report what I know and let folks make there own choices as to what limits to push......
This is not the first offical I've spoken with on this law and it surely wont be the last and even tho I dont agree with him on some doesn't mean I dont see there side. All I can do is try to change the way they look at things to help us.
Give your county prosecutor a call and see if they'll talk to ya on the point. Be glad to join ya as I feel they need more training on this law then anyone else in this state.....

"That will be the courts job. This ties right into the dispenc thing as ya cant trans to anyone but your patients."
where do you get this idea from? its not written anyplace in the law. the exceprt i showed you yesterday says i can sell to A patient without reprocution.


i think im actually going to setup a meeting this week with my local pa

http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/48021

this doesnt look bad at all

what the fuck happened to craigslist?

i always go to metro detroit>for sale/wanted>marijuana and i would get like hundreds of ads for bud co ops compassion clubs etc ....

i just did the search and look at it.
http://detroit.craigslist.org/search/?areaID=22&subAreaID=&query=marijuana&catAbb=sss