Might actually vote repub

ORECAL

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So let's see .... If a totalitarian dictator was running for president, and he/she promised to legalize pot, would you vote for him/her?

There's more than one issue at stake in every election.

Vi
the key word is promise...... no, I would not vote for him just because he promises to legalize pot. but ron paul is a strict constitutionalist, which is what this country needs IMO. we need to get back to our roots, regain our freedoms.
 

Twistyman

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Unfortunatly freedom & Bush is an oxymoron..Your only free if you agree with him. As polled he run's at about 33% popularity.....Who's not a dictator ?
 

undertheice

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I'd vote for paprika, even though I like bay leaf more.
a vote for paprika is a vote for freedom. :mrgreen:

I sorta think thats a waste of a vote, cmon lets be realistic
if you feel you must vote, vote with your conscience. if you believe in this system, there is no such thing as a wasted vote. if everyone actually educated them self and voted on real issues, our system might actually work the way it's supposed to. instead, the public votes for whoever looks the best or talks the best or they vote by party affiliation or any number of things that have little to do with the real world. they vote with their emotions instead of their minds.

maybe so, but I'm more worried about keeping mccain out of office....I would love ron paul to be president but it juss isn't going to happen...
the people get what they deserve (as our eight years with baby bush have shown us). you're voting against sound bites, the illusion of greed and an affiliation with one of the least liked presidents in recent history. you're also voting against experience and the continuation of a capitalist system that has made this country into one of the most successful in history. so i guess you're voting for an expansion of the nanny state and an increase in taxes so your elected officials can create more bureaucracy to hand out the crumbs they can't waste.

oh well. not a big thing to me one way or the other. i sure am glad i'm buried deep under the ice already, if i wasn't i'd be looking for an igloo right about now 'cause it looks like obama on the horizon and old joe sure would be proud.
 

defeatedtea

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and noone is going to legalize.
dude mccain will not do anything in your interests just think of it like this
if you vote mccain, your life will be that much harder in terms of how the economoy is going to do, inflation, gas prices,
Ask your self this
do you want to pay 4.50 for gas?
do you want interest rates to keep being cut and thus making our money worthless via inflation?
do u want to be spending 42% of your budget on war for the next 4 years?

seriously
don't be a selfish dick.

sorry

UNLESS your worth over 10+ million dollars and are free from debt
then u have nothing to worry about:joint:
 

hom36rown

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if you believe in this system, there is no such thing as a wasted vote.
I do not believe in a 2 party system, we're always choosing between the lesser of two evils, and imo obama is the lesser this time around.
you're voting against sound bites, the illusion of greed and an affiliation with one of the least liked presidents in recent history.
Oh thank you for your brilliant insight into how I think and why I do things, I see so clearly now, you are a genius! fuck off
 

undertheice

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I do not believe in a 2 party system, we're always choosing between the lesser of two evils.....
then why choose evil at all?

.....you are a genius! fuck off
gee, thanks for noticing. are you by any chance med's little brother or just another member of the nouveau-left that bases all his discussions on hatred?
 

hom36rown

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I just think you are an idiot for trying to tell ME what I am thinking, even though you know nothing about me
 

Wordz

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Obama= cfr McCain= cfr it's one fucking party wake the fuck up people. Corporate Fascist Regime.
 

VTXDave

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maybe so, but Im more worried about keeping mccain out of office....I would love ron paul to be president but it juss isnt going to happen...
And it's your fault. We donated $600 dollars to his campaign, what did you do to support Ron Paul? Post on a board and bitch about the state of affairs? And you have the fucking audacity to even approach me the "waste of a vote" bullshit?

It isn't a fucking waste of a vote...I vote my conscience because I refuse to prostitute myself...What say you? You gonna vote for a candidate (Obama) that voted for Patriot Act II? You gonna vote for a candidate that voted for Patriot Act I? Give me a fucking break. Check your candidates records and then talk to me about wasting a vote. And then you tell someone else in this thread to fuck off? You wanna know about your candidate...Start using that thing between your ears and maybe you'll change your tune. Otherwise, keep perpetuating the machine like the little automaton you are. Grow a fucking brain and some balls.
 

VTXDave

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it is a waste of a vote because he isnt going to win!
Yet smoke pot and will vote for a candidate that has voted for legislation to surveil US citizens and suspend Habeas Corpus. And the you tell someone else on this board, who didn't attack you I might add, to fuckk off and call him an idiot.

You're voting for Obama, who voted "Yea" on Patriot Act II" and you smoke pot...You're a hypocrite and you get what you deserve.

I will still vote for Ron Paul because I am a principled man that holds true to the convictions of personal freedom and liberty (even the right to grow and smoke pot without fear of Law Enforcement surveilling me...what your candidate voted for, remember?). You on the other hand...Well, I'll leave it at that.

Again I ask, you say you'd love for Ron Paul to win...What have you done as an American citizen to ensure that he could win? Did you even vote in the primaries?
 

kronicsmurf

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problem is there is no one to vote for. i certainly have had my fill of republican's and their really isn't much choice on the dems side either. i don't really trust any of the candidates. its a damning situation either way. mccains a military man like i would trust him. he might know a few things concerning the military but he don't know shit about economics. so that leaves hillary because i see her as being the lesser of 2 evils but not enough to vote. so i guess no ron paul means i'm not voting.
 

hom36rown

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Yet smoke pot and will vote for a candidate that has voted for legislation to surveil US citizens and suspend Habeas Corpus. And the you tell someone else on this board, who didn't attack you I might add, to fuckk off and call him an idiot.

You're voting for Obama, who voted "Yea" on Patriot Act II" and you smoke pot...You're a hypocrite and you get what you deserve.

I will still vote for Ron Paul because I am a principled man that holds true to the convictions of personal freedom and liberty (even the right to grow and smoke pot without fear of Law Enforcement surveilling me...what your candidate voted for, remember?). You on the other hand...Well, I'll leave it at that.

Again I ask, you say you'd love for Ron Paul to win...What have you done as an American citizen to ensure that he could win? Did you even vote in the primaries?
I did indeed vote for him in the primaries. A vote for ron paul is never NEVER going to make a difference in the final outcome...that is why we have the primaries, to see who the main two are...the simple fact of the matter is if you are going to vote for ron paul, you might as well stay home on election day because you arent going to effect the final outcome of the election, because the winner is going to be either mccain or obama . If you hate obama so much, then you should vote for mccain and cancel out my vote. The reason I told undertheice to fuck off is because he was trying to tell me what im thinking and what is going on in my head and it was just a ridiculous fuckin comment. Im not trying to say you are stupid or that this is a dumb decision, I really seriously thought about doing the exact same thing but decided not to because, althoug I see what you mean about sticking to your principles, like I said since it wont effect the outcome Id rather vote for someone that has a chance, is that really so bad...I wasnt trying to attack you, i was juss telling you my honest opinion, if you disagreed thats fine...I am going to go vote for obama even though I live in california and know he will win here anyway, because although it is unlikely it could come down to one vote and my vote wouldve made that difference, I do not recognize ron paul as having even a remote chance of coming anywhere near winning which is why I am not going to write him in.
 

hom36rown

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I dont claim to know everything about politics, Im just a college student, im still making up my mind on a lot of stuff and I try to stay open to ideas...im sure you know much more about the system and politics than i do...but is my logic really so crazy?
 

VTXDave

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the simple fact of the matter is if you are going to vote for ron paul, you might as well stay home on election day because you arent going to effect the final outcome of the election, because the winner is going to be either mccain or obama .
Allow me to suggest a book...

Amazon.com: A Nation of Sheep: Andrew P. Napolitano: Books
In A NATION OF SHEEP, Judge Andrew P. Napolitano frankly discusses how the federal government has circumvented the Constitution and is systematically dismantling the rights and freedoms that are the foundation of American democracy. He challenges Americans to recognize that they are being led down a very dangerous path and that the cost of following without challenge is the loss of the basic freedoms that facilitate our pursuit of happiness and that define us as a nation.

Judge Napolitano reminds readers what America is all about, that the purpose of government is to protect freedom, and freedom is the ability to follow your own free will and not the will of government bureaucrats. He asks the simple question, which are YOU, a sheep or a wolf? Do you blindly follow behind where you are led, or do you challenge the government at every pass, forcing it to make decisions that will protect our freedoms?
Judge Napolitano asks the questions that no one else will, challenging readers to rethink why they are blindly following a government that has only its own interests in mind.


It is my right as an American to vote and I will do so...I just refuse to be a sheep.
 

VTXDave

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...but is my logic really so crazy?
Hmm....lemme see here...

You smoke pot even though you know it's illegal. Your principles (and I'm assuming here) must tell you that pot should be legal and that everyone should be able to make that choice...that whole freedom and liberty thing, right?

And then you turn right around and vote for a man that voted for Patriot Act II that still gives the Federal Gov't that ability to piss on the 4th Amendment and allows the Federal Gov't to wiretap US citizens without a warrant.

So much freedom and liberty. So getting back to your question, my answer is...I see no logic.
 
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