WHATFG
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Didn't think of it in those terms...that is discouraging. I don't have bug killer so I've never given it much consideration. Now I have something else to consider. This web gets more tangled the more we move forward.
MMPR Grow op: Small Scale
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Kootenaygirl
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Just another way a small LP can set itself in a better light... Large LP's equal pesticide use... can we make them disclose their pesticide use?
j0yr1d3
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I'm starting to think "small LP" is a myth. Every one of these companies so far is "this and that incorporated" or "so and so corporation" or "crap ltd. a subsidiary of so and so corporation". How far away are we from these mythical small scale producers? How long you been waiting for HC to get their shit together? I bet it's been a lot longer than if you have a Inc or Corp after your name. The start up costs just to enter this stupid program will keep small scale producers from being able to compete. Especially if they don't have the import/export game of these massive corporations.
cannadan
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Another thing regarding size. Any of the smaller operators who actually do things with the patients needs in mind first , will most likely become much more popular than their corporate counter-parts and in turn grow exponentially in size until they too are giant entities
I can't see them consciously deciding to stay very small and limiting their growth potential but maybe there will be a few who can see the forest for the trees and will know when to draw the line on growth.
I can't see them consciously deciding to stay very small and limiting their growth potential but maybe there will be a few who can see the forest for the trees and will know when to draw the line on growth.
PunkyDorrie
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Corporations are evil. Think Wal Mart and McDonalds. People who want to help sick people dont open corporations. Blegh!
ClonedCannabis
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so the general feeling around here is that HC wants only big corporations to produce medical marijuana? why wouldn't there be room for small operations too? its a growing market after all
Ganjalee
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Everyone will have to incorporate big or small, just to be spared personal liabilities. Though smaller players will be friendlier, and may be able to grow a small following.
Dont be so sure...
Ganjalee
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Not sure even 1 iota, though it's a possibility long term,
woodsmaneh!
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This is not a big deal as these are just fungicides and if you get mold your doing something wrong big time as a LP. Lots of ways to prevent it and or kill if it happens. What we need is something for bugs! But than again if you get bugs your doing something wrong. Following GMP and GAP with the pharmacopoeia should prevent any issues unless you are careless.
woodsmaneh!
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Your seeing the big guys get through because they have $$$ to spend on getting everything right on their application and most saw there is $$$$ to be made so they got their apps in early. There are smaller guys coming, I'm one of them and hope to be licences soon. Still chatting with HC over a couple issues and just when you think your done they ask another question or ask you to jump through another hoop. We will get there. I have to say I don't feel treated any different by HC than anyone else. (I'm helping 4 other groups get their LP's and one is big.) We all get the same service or lack or from HC, and some days they make me laugh so hard. I think the bigger show stopper is finding a place that will let you grow, many cities are just making it impossible to do it. My advise to anyone is go where your wanted (Tweed is a fine example of this) never ever call HC only email. If you call it never happened. Stay the course and good luck.
woodsmaneh!
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We do it to protect our asses and personal assets, we limit our liability if something happens. Your a fool if you don't do it, shit happens, protect your family!
woodsmaneh!
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There are lots of small LP's out there and I'm one of them, the reason it takes some longer than others is the quality of the proposal you send HC. The big guys have $$$ for people to work all sections, I don't so it's me and my gang peddling as fast as we can vs Tweed going from zero to 100 in six weeks.
I think HC has treated me fairly and also the other groups I am working with, I see no difference. I'm working with small and BIG and we all get treated the same by HC. The little guys just are not as well prepared.
ClonedCannabis
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when you say there are "lots of small LPs out there" do you mean already approved or still trying to get their license?
and do you act as a paid consultant like these guys www.mmprconsultingservices.ca ?
ClonedCannabis
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or this guy carlisleconsulting.ca? (who spells both his first and last name wrong on his homepage LOL)
I dont know about that, no system is fool proof and plant pathogens/bugs happen. We are not talking about molds that grow due to poor conditions, but pathogenic fungi that actively attack the plant. Even organic farmers use pesticides, they just restrict the source of them.
This will definitely be a bigger issue for large scale producers though, and pesticide free production will definitely be good for business.
woodsmaneh!
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There are both types but it also depends on what is small. The point is the field is wide open to anyone how gets all the right answers in the right spots.
I am a MMPR consultant and do charge for my services, I am also in the process of getting my own MMPR LP. I don't have a web site or do any advertising for my consulting business. I am picking who I want to work with, there is a lot of people calling me but just could not handle the work load and get my licence too. I have been in the field for 6+ years first as an MMAR consultant and last summer switched to MMPR. I also work with a couple of other consultants the other side of Toronto, that way we can cover more accounts.
rookwood613
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Hi rollitup peoples,
I've been lurking on this thread since the MMPR was announced. At first I was thinking about getting my license and starting a grow, but the red tape and paper work has detered me. I'd gone to bank and had financals sorted, but couldn't get approval until I got a lease. No one wanted to lease a property to me until the city updated the bylaws to include MM production.
Well a year later and the municipality has final updated its zoning bylaws, with April just around the corner but I don't think I'll be applying for a MMPR licence to grow. I've realized what I really want to do is build an automated grow control system. Back when I was going to school me and the roommates spent a lot of time listening to pink floyd and talking about how to build a better grow. What I'm thinking is a full instrumentation and control setup all tied together to allow real time monitoring.
I'd develop a platform to collect measurements such as air temp, air humidity, CO2 level, water temp, water PH, water level, lamp Lux, ect from multiple locations, and bring it all together in a way that can be monitored from a tablet. Control of lights, cooling, pumps, or valves would be scripted to make sure everything runs smooth. When it doesn't run smooth alarms and Warnings can be configured things from going to far off the deep end rotting a crop.
Anyone interested? I'm looking for an LP (or soon to be) to partner with. Message me to discuss.
I've been lurking on this thread since the MMPR was announced. At first I was thinking about getting my license and starting a grow, but the red tape and paper work has detered me. I'd gone to bank and had financals sorted, but couldn't get approval until I got a lease. No one wanted to lease a property to me until the city updated the bylaws to include MM production.
Well a year later and the municipality has final updated its zoning bylaws, with April just around the corner but I don't think I'll be applying for a MMPR licence to grow. I've realized what I really want to do is build an automated grow control system. Back when I was going to school me and the roommates spent a lot of time listening to pink floyd and talking about how to build a better grow. What I'm thinking is a full instrumentation and control setup all tied together to allow real time monitoring.
I'd develop a platform to collect measurements such as air temp, air humidity, CO2 level, water temp, water PH, water level, lamp Lux, ect from multiple locations, and bring it all together in a way that can be monitored from a tablet. Control of lights, cooling, pumps, or valves would be scripted to make sure everything runs smooth. When it doesn't run smooth alarms and Warnings can be configured things from going to far off the deep end rotting a crop.
Anyone interested? I'm looking for an LP (or soon to be) to partner with. Message me to discuss.
Stark Raving
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Rook, there are companies like Triqsoft that have already done this. You may want to check them out. There's definitely more than a couple of these systems already on the market.