Mohican's 2015 Season

SomeGuy said:
You all should keep in mind that 215 was a voter initiative and cannot be messed with that way. It will not stand up In court trying to get rid of prop 215 becuase of that. Even sb420 was knocked down becuase it tryed to define things in prop215. They may try but won't ultimately win in CA. That's my opinion though.
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I think this is just the beginning and where big money is to be made, big money will control it. It's a matter of time before some politician comes up with a clever yet legal way to get rid of any voter initiative.

My opinions of course. I have no greater insight into this than anyone else. :)

Norcal, I grow indoors exclusively and use Hortilux HPS bulbs. I am about to try Solis Tek bulbs though. The Hortilux keep blowingup when driven by my Solis Tek ballast. I have one of those Hortilux Blue bulbs, too. IMO they suck. For MH I use Ushio.
 
The language has been released and it's confusing.


Basically if you sell anything period. You have to get a state license and local permit. Submit fingerprints to the department of consumer affairs so they can do a background check.

Licensure is separate for cultivation, transport, dispensaries. Delivery services must be tied to a dispensary

If you don't sell none of this applies.


Very strict regulations on doctors and prescribing cannabis with penalties or prosecution of guidelines are not followed which violates prop 215.

Gives counties the right to ban cultivation and dispensaries

All cultivation must follow same.guidlines as other agriculture entities.



This bill ensures there will be much larger black market. It will be harder for sick patients to get their meds. . This bill only benefits dispensaries on L.A. and fucks everyone else.
 
Just watch hash church on Sunday Etiénne will explain everything. He posted all the language in the hash church group on facebook book too.

The bill will be on the governors desk in the morning..... it's in the approcriations comittee now.
 
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fumble said:
thanks for the info hyroot. I am guessing that includes edibles. Damn. This hella sucks.
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It goes into effect Jan 1st. But it will take a few years to roll out.

Once CCHI 2016 passes and goes into effect it will void ab 266.

So imo since licensing and permits are going to been limited and big bucks $$$$$. The politicians are pushing for this so hard so they can make as much money as they can while they can.

@SomeGuy is correct. It os an illegal bill since it contradicts existing laws that were voted on. It will get over turned in the supreme court probably.

It just goes to show. Money controls everything. And it's a good example.of that saying money is the root of all evil.
 
hyroot said:
It goes into effect Jan 1st. But it will take a few years to roll out.

Once CCHI 2016 passes and goes into effect it will void ab 266.

So imo since licensing and permits are going to been limited and big bucks $$$$$. The politicians are pushing for this so hard so they can make as much money as they can while they can.

@SomeGuy is correct. It os an illegal bill since it contradicts existing laws that were voted on. It will get over turned in the supreme court probably.

It just goes to show. Money controls everything. And it's a good example.of that saying money is the root of all evil.
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Where are you seeing the permit prices?
 
We don't need a representative government any more. We can get all of the information in real time and then vote on it from the internet. Lobbyists will lose their power because they will need to sway the entire population instead of just a few.

Public office is a hard position. We should get the best people in those positions. The problem is the money. Capitalism isn't working right. There need to be maximum wage/maximum worth regulations just like there are anti-monopoly regulations.

Agriculture should be the same way. Farms should have a maximum limit on size. A single company should only be allowed to own a maximum number of farms. This would bring real farming and creativity back to farming. Industrial farming is killing us all (might be the plan). When we all get sick, guess who will be charging us big bucks to get better?

It is all just another form of sharecropping/company store crap they have been pulling on the people for centuries. You can never get out from under their thumb. The French fixed this by cutting off the thumbs.

They are all racist pedophiles!!!

OMG - I am turning into Uncle Buck!

I need coffee.
Cheers,
Mo
 
Mithrandir420 said:
Where are you seeing the permit prices?
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The annual state and federal and local fees already to operate a store front and a commercial grow are pretty high. A 2000 Sq ft store front and 60 x 60 commercial grow would run over $30,000 a year in all those fees together. That doesn't count taxes. So being that the license and permits are limited. Do you think they will be cheap? Cannabis is the 8th largest industry in the world. They're going to make as much as they can off is while they can. Come 2017. They're shit out of luck.
 
I've been reading up on oregon laws. A lot has changed since last year. Not counting the legalization. But you don't have to be a resident to get an ommp card anymore. It takes a year to become a resident there. The funny thing on their possession laws. It's 24 zips for an ommp. That's for indoor. If your outdoor pulls 92 pounds. You can possess 92 pounds.
 
Where did you see 92 pounds possession is legal? Pretty sure its just 2 pounds per patient on ommp, and 1 oz on your person in public for recreation,

They are paving the way for big business here to...

Sad truth is black market is here to stay, for a while any way.
 
SomeGuy said:
Agreed. We should hang lobbyist publicly. As well as dirty politicians. It would send a message. One the powers that be need to hear IMO.

I'm a peace loving guy but fuck the government, they are the problem.
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Personally, i think hanging is to quick and painless, but thats just me ;)

I've always been a fan of George Carlins idea of shot out of a catapult...into a brick wall
 
papapayne said:
Where did you see 92 pounds possession is legal? Pretty sure its just 2 pounds per patient on ommp, and 1 oz on your person in public for recreation,

They are paving the way for big business here to...

Sad truth is black market is here to stay, for a while any way.
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It was just a random number but what ever your outdoor yields is what you can possess in oregon

Hb3400 plant limit




SECTION 82a. (1) Except as provided in subsection (2) of this section, a registry identification

cardholder and the designated primary caregiver of the registry identification

cardholder may jointly possess no more than 24 ounces of usable marijuana.

(2) Subject to subsection (3) of this section, a person designated to produce marijuana

by a registry identification cardholder may possess the amount of usable marijuana that the

person harvests from the person’s mature marijuana plants, provided that the person may

not possess usable marijuana in excess of the amount of usable marijuana in the person’s

possession as reported to the Oregon Health Authority under section 81a of this 2015 Act.

(3) A person designated to produce marijuana by a registry identification cardholder may not possess usable marijuana in excess of:

(a) For a marijuana growsite located outdoors, 12 pounds of usable marijuana per mature marijuana plant; or

(b) For a marijuana growsite located indoors, six pounds of usable marijuana per mature marijuana plant.
 
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