Molasses in DTW coco?

So I've found mixed results searching for an answer on this. But if I want to add some carbs with molasses, is it possible in a setup like this ( dtw coco)? Obviously the molasses will need to be diluted into boiling water so it mixes in the res. but will this actually help? Some say it causes harmful bacteria/fungus or is a waste with synthetic nutes.

Not worth it.

It is used to feed beneficial bacteria in soil. IMO, it does little for indoor potted plants in any medium.

If molasses isn't worth it why do so many people use it? And why is it that a lot of the "sweeteners" on the market are molasses based? The molasses provides carbohydrates for the plant right? Which in return gives the plant energy to intake nutrients and grow. I plan on using jacks hydroponics 5-12-26 with the calcium nitrate. Alog with GH calimagic and a little dyna-gro protekt for silica. But I still feel the plant might want a few carbs here and there. So are there any additives on the market to supply carbs that is proven to work? Something like advanced nutrients carboload, or something similar?

IIRC, a plant produces most, if not all of the sugars (carbs) it needs through photosynthesis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosynthesis

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Photosynthesis changes sunlight into chemical energy, splits water to liberate O[SUB]2[/SUB], and fixes CO[SUB]2[/SUB] into sugar."

As MYOB mentioned, the main, proven, benefit of adding a sugar to the root zone would be to feed beneficial bacteria.

That is also where a debate between many growers arises:

"Can the end taste of the bud be affected by whatever is in the root zone?"

Some people say sugars and anything else will definitely not affect the taste of your bud. Other people say they can taste a difference between things like hydro vs. soil (when the only difference is the medium), flushed vs. not flushed, added sugars vs. not. And then even other people are half and half, saying some things affect taste and some things do not.

Whatever the case, I think it's best to keep an open mind...to know the truth, you really need to test for yourself. Do something like a SOG and blind taste tests. I'm sure it will be very easy to find people to try two different kinds of dank bud and tell you if they taste a difference. All the rest is internet hearsay anyways. And even if you do believe some thread or post on the internet about any debated subject (defoliation, flushing, sugars, hydro v soil), you should still test for yourself just to make sure. That's the best part!

Thanks for the quick lesson blacksun. I suppose I could just do a side by side comparison. I was going to use two resivour's for my sog grow anyways. So I can just put half the ladies on one res and the other half on the other res. both resivour's will have the same amount of base nutrient but ill add some sweetener to the 2nd res. I'll see what I can find as far as the sweetener goes. But your right, Im sure I could round up a frickin heard of my buddies to test them out. Haha. I'll be sure to make a thread about this when its all said and done.

I use aquashield, mycogrow soluble (great white), alaskan ancient forest humus, and pond-zyme in my coco hempy buckets... gave them some botanicare unsulphured blackstrap molasses a couple weeks ago and they are doing well... I have never not used bennies and this is first coco run so I can't say if it's better than not using it, but I can say it doesn't hurt anything.

Also I use botanicare pbp and lineup which has some organic shit that needs to be broken down.

Malevolence said:

I use aquashield, mycogrow soluble (great white), alaskan ancient forest humus, and pond-zyme in my coco hempy buckets... gave them some botanicare unsulphured blackstrap molasses a couple weeks ago and they are doing well... I have never not used bennies and this is first coco run so I can't say if it's better than not using it, but I can say it doesn't hurt anything.

Also I use botanicare pbp and lineup which has some organic shit that needs to be broken down.

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You use pondzyme in your tea? What are your measurements and process for making it?

My measurements and process was vaporize a couple bowls followed by some bong rips and a dash of this and sprinkle of that of whatever I had under the sink. I vegged in a DWC cloner and transplanted to coco hempy with perlite res and induced 12/12. Filled the bucket with coco and mixed in a handful of general hydro ancient forest humus which has fungi, bacteria, nematodes, and a large diversity of other microbes... even has earth worms but I throw them outside. Next I dug out a divot for the roots to transplant and lined the divot and root ball with mycogrow soluble from fungi.com... it's like great white but way cheaper but without the enzymes. I also sprinkled about 1/3 scoop of pondzyme on the roots and lined the divot for enzymes and bacteria, plus the barley probably does something cool. I unpacked the coco brick in a bucket of 5.8ph cal/mag water with Aquashield. A couple weeks later after stretch, the buds were starting to form and I watered with Aquashield, pondzyme, and molasses mixed in the water.

I have made Heisenberg tea a few times, that's why I have all the ingredients. I just use Aquashield in DWC now so I don't use the other ingredients anymore and figured I would try them. In DWC the key to a healthy root system was a massive diverse population so no one species gains dominance (ie: pythium), and I don't see why a good diverse microbial population in a coco hempy bucket wouldn't be beneficial too.

My weekly tea consists of a brewed tea...
for dtw.....

aquashield
great white
hybrix mollasis
zho


and i use orca
mixed with every feeding....

Ewww organisms Ewww bacteria. Lol.

Oh and hellraiser! I love ur signature! I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels like that lmmfao...good shit

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Ewww organisms Ewww bacteria. Lol.

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your plants love it though! it's like thousands of tiny fingers massaging your balls

Lmmfao! Omg that's awesome...yeah I'll stick with the other end of the spectrum tho h2o2 is my friend lol Bennifitial or not I'm good on bacteria lol

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Lmmfao! Omg that's awesome...yeah I'll stick with the other end of the spectrum tho h2o2 is my friend lol Bennifitial or not I'm good on bacteria lol

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H202 in dtw..... am i missing something lol

Yeah more like Hempy so drain to waste ish...it def keeps roots clean, oxygenated, and keeps algae from forming on top of ur growing medium....I got beautiful plants about 3 n a half weeks n to bud 6 in total ....I'm iffy on pics....but believe it or not my plants love it

H202 in soil/coco or whatever will kill all your micro life nothing about that is good!
i see it in full on hydro but not passive hydro mediums

Why would it differ? From one type of hydro to another? I'm telling u I got 6 plants booming rate now...I see nothing bad about it...I feed with 5ml of micro...and 10ml bloom (pergal.) GH flora series...with 15 ml h2o2 per g ...plants love it my royal haze is 5 foot tall my two og kush are 3 foot my white rhino is a tiny bit taller them and my white widow is the smallest at 30 inches....all had little over a month veg and now are heading to 4 th week of bud....beans were popped on Aug 7th...so idk to each is their own... Thanks for caring tho lol but I got it under control

Also I grow in perlite idk if that matters

Oh yeah n I forgot I have like a 80s era bag seed in there too she's like 3 n half foot too like the rhino....and all these plants have at least 4 main heads

They might be growing good! But with micro life they could be growing great!
whatevers clever just stating that h202 kill all and is used in running sterile res