Monsanto cannabis yes or no? The DNA Protection Act of 2013

Harrekin said:

He's not even talking sense, that's the point.

We ask for proof? He posts bullshit.

Either way, vote YES on the "Send Jobs out of California" Bill 2013.

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Proof? Proof of what exactly Frank? The only thing I am here to 'prove' about this subject has already been proven...its the SHDT's burden to disprove such and such was clearly dispatched in its inherent and ironic simplistic perfection with the wielding of the quote of destiny...not even the top scientists for Monsanto et al can argue against the all powerful Rumsfeld quote of destiny with respect to this issue Frank because its simple truth or 'fact' if you prefer.
Also I have no doubt that the simple truth of it makes no sense to you, that helps 'prove' the point and works to increase the power of the already all powerful quote of destiny:
"There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know."
Donald Rumsfeld

Frank until you can say what no scientist can say about this genetic mine field of an issue when it comes to applying this technology in regards to disproving the quote of destiny then you are simply a General Custer troll in your efforts to resemble an Einstein troll.



lol...

DNAprotection said:

Proof? Proof of what exactly Frank? The only thing I am here to 'prove' about this subject has already been proven...its the SHDT's burden to disprove such and such was clearly dispatched in its inherent and ironic simplistic perfection with the wielding of the quote of destiny...not even the top scientists for Monsanto et al can argue against the all powerful Rumsfeld quote of destiny with respect to this issue Frank because its simple truth or 'fact' if you prefer.
Also I have no doubt that the simple truth of it makes no sense to you, that helps 'prove' the point and works to increase the power of the already all powerful quote of destiny:
"There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know."
Donald Rumsfeld

Frank until you can say what no scientist can say about this genetic mine field of an issue when it comes to applying this technology in regards to disproving the quote of destiny then you are simply a General Custer troll in your efforts to resemble an Einstein troll.

lol...

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Ah ah ah, that's not how it works my simple friend.

The onus of proof is on the person making the claim.

You claimed GMO could cause untold damage to the enviroment, thus it is in-fact you who made the claim and the burden of proof is on you.

Try harder next time, put your brain in second gear to push start it, anything else and it won't start.

Harrekin said:

Ah ah ah, that's not how it works my simple friend.

The onus of proof is on the person making the claim.

You claimed GMO could cause untold damage to the enviroment, thus it is in-fact you who made the claim and the burden of proof is on you.

Try harder next time, put your brain in second gear to push start it, anything else and it won't start.

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That's odd frank because I thought the burden was clearly defined to be in your possession with at least my last post if not the entire thread?...
and as you continue to 'argue', the vote count keeps increasing along with the gap between the yes and no votes...it seems to be almost working like a law of nature...it actually is a law of nature Frank, but that might be math at a higher level then you could grasp as you still have yet to absorb your heedlessness in your current math problem.
Lets review:

quote of destiny was wielded and now you are flailing about like some kind of headless ferret...find a head and recover if you can, but as stated even the top corps/gov scientists cannot recover from being violated by the quote of destiny...


[video=youtube;_RpSv3HjpEw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RpSv3HjpEw[/video]

Ninjabowler said:

You puppet, your actually standing up for a company that geneticly modifies our food?! I didnt say that monsanto was trying to alter my weed, i said i dont want my weed altered. You either didnt read my post, or you work for monsanto, or your blind to the truth that monsanto is destroying agriculture as we know it. Go to a farmers market once and a while and taste what nature gave us and monsanto wants gone. If you dont agree with growing your own then get lost, go hang out in the pesticide section of your local farm store.

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sweet jesus theres an entire gang of you brainwashed eco-loons in here.

MONSANTO IS NOT INVOLVED WITH DOPE.
EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH YOUR ASSUMPTIONS IS NOT A CO-INTELPRO PLANT
BEING WRONG DOES NOT GIVE YOU LICENSE TO BE STUPID.

you are an illiterate boob.

cannabineer said:

Then why does the text of your proposal seek to divide Nature from Artifice?
Once we understand that we ARE Nature and there is no boundary between Nature and Artifice, the proposal loses meaning.
because now genetic engineering is recognized as nature in operation, and there is no protected class. cn

ceterum censeo the language of section 1 (d) contains the phrase "original and naturally-intended design of life itself", which leads me to ask ... how old do you believe the planet to be?

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just so we are clear...

the reasons for GMOs... the continue use of terrible pesticides, herbicides, and other nasty chemicals.. fertilizers... etc

conventionally grown food already is less nutritious and has less flavonoids than organically grown crops... we dont pick or grow food for nutrition anymore.. we do it for money.. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/science/flavor-is-the-price-of-tomatoes-scarlet-hue-geneticists-say.html

while we ought to be growing organically to produce BETTER food. http://www.altmedrev.com/publications/15/1/4.pdf
and then the flavonoid study... http://ucce.ucdavis.edu/files/datastore/234-848.pdf

now... if they were genetically modifying our food to makes us HEALTHIER or the food MOAR nutritious.. that would be more acceptable.. but instead...

they do it to make more perfect looking food, that last longer, and doesn't die due to blight...

blighted conditions that we have created for ourselves.. over-fertilization, terminal seeds, oh... you know that Bayer is the cause for CCD for bees too right?

when the bees are gone.. we are screwed.

I have no problem with the genetic manipulation of plants and animals to IMPROVE their quality, production efficiency, and defence mechanisms. (such as potatoes having a natural pesticide added to their genetics that has little effect on humans).
Even IF it does affect us as a species on our own genetic level, we will adapt and evolve to overcome the complications like we always have.
My problem is when a person or persons THINK think they can own such "Property".
Owning a patent on life is wrong.

SnakeByte said:

I have no problem with the genetic manipulation of plants and animals to IMPROVE their quality, production efficiency, and defence mechanisms. (such as potatoes having a natural pesticide added to their genetics that has little effect on humans).
Even IF it does affect us as a species on our own genetic level, we will adapt and evolve to overcome the complications like we always have.
My problem is when a person or persons THINK think they can own such "Property".
Owning a patent on life is wrong.

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its not a patent on life

its a patent on unique combinations of life that do not occur in nature

these unique combinations only occur because of the many expensive lab hours that led to their creation

now your saying that you havent got a problem with these creations but you think that people shouldnt be paid for making them?

tomcatjones said:

just so we are clear...

the reasons for GMOs... the continue use of terrible pesticides, herbicides, and other nasty chemicals.. fertilizers... etc

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nonsense cite?

conventionally grown food already is less nutritious and has less flavonoids than organically grown crops... we dont pick or grow food for nutrition anymore.. we do it for money.. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/science/flavor-is-the-price-of-tomatoes-scarlet-hue-geneticists-say.html

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nothing to do with the GMO your talking about

may as well be blaming the "big bud" style of cannabis on GMO

while we ought to be growing organically to produce BETTER food. http://www.altmedrev.com/publications/15/1/4.pdf
and then the flavonoid study... http://ucce.ucdavis.edu/files/datastore/234-848.pdf

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altmed really?

still nothing to do with GMO

now... if they were genetically modifying our food to makes us HEALTHIER or the food MOAR nutritious.. that would be more acceptable.. but instead...

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acceptable to who people who make up shit to discredit it? really?

they do it to make more perfect looking food, that last longer, and doesn't die due to blight...

blighted conditions that we have created for ourselves.. over-fertilization, terminal seeds, oh... you know that Bayer is the cause for CCD for bees too right?

when the bees are gone.. we are screwed.

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bees are important yes

but GMO is not the cause of their demise

and seeing as you brought up the bees i need to see your sources

The Bayer/bees thing might or might not be legit. There is a hypothesis that neonicotinoid insecticides have a cumulative toxicity at low and persistent levels, and this may be predisposing bees to the collapse.
But it has not been shown to definitely be so to the best of my knowledge.
Even if the neonicotinoid hypothesis is correct, GM isn't in the chain of causes here. cn

ginjawarrior said:

nonsense cite?

nothing to do with the GMO your talking about

may as well be blaming the "big bud" style of cannabis on GMO

altmed really?

still nothing to do with GMO



acceptable to who people who make up shit to discredit it? really?

bees are important yes

but GMO is not the cause of their demise

and seeing as you brought up the bees i need to see your sources

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monsanto corn is GM... why?

to be able to stand the harmful effects of ROUND UP> their pesticide... or they make the corn with it in it now...
http://rt.com/business/news/russia-monsanto-corn-ban-005/
for reference for you... http://www.ext.colostate.edu/pubs/insect/05556.html
the toxin from said corn...IS TERRIBLE FOR HUMANS

all so tirelessly... since the pests are resistant to and will adapt faster than we will... http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-18/rootworms-are-resistant-to-monsanto-corn-in-two-states.html


now for the bees... you need to learn more about plants, seeds and longevity of the web of life.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/death-of-the-bees-genetically-modified-crops-and-the-decline-of-bee-colonies-in-north-america/25950

and then of course... http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/04/09/mystery-of-the-disappearing-bees-solved/

http://gmo-journal.com/2012/06/03/france-moves-to-protect-bees-by-banning-syngenta-pesticide/ http://gmo-journal.com/2012/04/25/new-evidence-linking-systemic-pesticides-to-bee-die-offs/
http://gmo-journal.com/2011/10/27/the-honeybee-disappearance-gmo-connection/

golly geee... less typing for me.. but a lot of reading for you.



oh and the flavonoid study had everything to do with GMO you just don't understand the larger picture of how the food we eat is the medicine of life.
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/beautiful-truth/


i have not purchased corn from wal-mart in two-years. only roadside corn and i can havea discussion with the person who grew it. just like my cannabis.

except i grow that myself and organically of course. and i take care of pests most by companion growing and other organic methods.

While I may find Monsanto's business practices despicable that should have no bearing on whether DNA modification is allowed. I also hate seeing 'natural' in any kind of argument that uses it to mean good or better. Natural has nothing to do with whether something is good or bad.

If you don't want GMO weed than don't grow it or smoke it, I want to and you have just as much justification to tell me I can't as people who want to tell you that you can't smoke weed because that's what they think is good for you.

tomcatjones said:

monsanto corn is GM... why?

to be able to stand the harmful effects of ROUND UP> their pesticide... or they make the corn with it in it now...
http://rt.com/business/news/russia-monsanto-corn-ban-005/
for reference for you... http://www.ext.colostate.edu/pubs/insect/05556.html
the toxin from said corn...IS TERRIBLE FOR HUMANS

all so tirelessly... since the pests are resistant to and will adapt faster than we will... http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-18/rootworms-are-resistant-to-monsanto-corn-in-two-states.html


now for the bees... you need to learn more about plants, seeds and longevity of the web of life.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/death-of-the-bees-genetically-modified-crops-and-the-decline-of-bee-colonies-in-north-america/25950

and then of course... http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/04/09/mystery-of-the-disappearing-bees-solved/

http://gmo-journal.com/2012/06/03/france-moves-to-protect-bees-by-banning-syngenta-pesticide/ http://gmo-journal.com/2012/04/25/new-evidence-linking-systemic-pesticides-to-bee-die-offs/
http://gmo-journal.com/2011/10/27/the-honeybee-disappearance-gmo-connection/

golly geee... less typing for me.. but a lot of reading for you.



oh and the flavonoid study had everything to do with GMO you just don't understand the larger picture of how the food we eat is the medicine of life.
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/beautiful-truth/


i have not purchased corn from wal-mart in two-years. only roadside corn and i can havea discussion with the person who grew it. just like my cannabis.

except i grow that myself and organically of course. and i take care of pests most by companion growing and other organic methods.

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Round Up has a persistency of less than one growing cycle, it's so you buy more.

Are they chasing profit or trying to destroy the Earth? You Eco-warriors have your shit all mixed up, yous can't help but trip over yourselves.

Also you said yourself that you don't HAVE to buy GM corn, so why disallow it. If you don't like eating Mars bars, you don't just try get them banned because its not your preference.

Try harder.

tomcatjones said:

monsanto corn is GM... why?

to be able to stand the harmful effects of ROUND UP> their pesticide... or they make the corn with it in it now...
http://rt.com/business/news/russia-monsanto-corn-ban-005/
for reference for you... http://www.ext.colostate.edu/pubs/insect/05556.html
the toxin from said corn...IS TERRIBLE FOR HUMANS

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the NATURAL toxin used in BT corn is particularly toxic to caterpillars (budworms) but NOT so to humans and other mammals. those far there has been only ONNE study (out of many) which showed advrse reactions in rats. the rats were ffed BT corn at a rate far higher than people would consume, and the toxicology results were very minor, and the rats were not sick, did not die from eating BT corn, and the results have yet to be replicated. but you would have to stuff yourself with BT corn till you burst to get the results found in the rats, results which were asymptomatic untill the rats were terminated and examined in a necropsy.
the mad claims that BT cotton makes people who wear cotton clothing ill is absolutely ridonkulously retarded.

tomcatjones said:

all so tirelessly... since the pests are resistant to and will adapt faster than we will... http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-18/rootworms-are-resistant-to-monsanto-corn-in-two-states.html

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yes. pests become resistant to pesticides and other means of controlling them. they always have. whats your point?
pests like the rootworm, boll weevil and mosaic viruses drop crop yeilds in the toilet, and sometimes wipe out entire crops, developing methods to kill pests and save crops is not an evil profit motive, it is ESSENTIAL. burying your head in the dirt and claiming that pesticides are evil, and then declaring the only method that DOESNT use pesticides is even more evil is not helpful.

if the eco-nauts have a proposal to protect crops with "good vibes" and crystal power, why havent they stepped up?

tomcatjones said:

now for the bees... you need to learn more about plants, seeds and longevity of the web of life.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/death-of-the-bees-genetically-modified-crops-and-the-decline-of-bee-colonies-in-north-america/25950

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why do you think everybody else "needs to learn more", when you are citing a blog post from a dolt who doesnt even understand what he is talking about?
GMO crops are NOT causing bee colony collapse syndrome.

this citation is absolutely useless. "terminator" seeds dont kill bees, nor do "terminator" seeds require pesticides to germinate, the plants grown from these seeds (and every one is an ANNUAL) are intended to produce sterile seeds at harvest, solely to prevent the sale of seeds to others, an the saving of seeds. GMO's are not the only sterile plants, several well known hybrid varieties of ordinary selective breeding crops produce sterile seeds. the seeds for these crops must be purchased from the hybridizer every year.
most of the crops referenced in this shitty rant arent even available as a GMO. tree fruits, tree nuts grapes, berries, etc etc etc are NOT GMO's. they dont grow from "terminator seeds" "terminator seeds" do not have any property which could affect bees when the plants are in flower for pollination, and in fact "terminatoer seeds" are NOT YET ON THE MARKET!

you are the one who needs to "learn more about" well... pretty much everything youre posting here.

tomcatjones said:

and then of course... http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/04/09/mystery-of-the-disappearing-bees-solved/

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ohh wait, just a moment ago it was the entirely theoretical "terminator seeds" that were killing off the bees, now its pesticides? amazing.

tomcatjones said:

http://gmo-journal.com/2012/06/03/france-moves-to-protect-bees-by-banning-syngenta-pesticide/ http://gmo-journal.com/2012/04/25/new-evidence-linking-systemic-pesticides-to-bee-die-offs/
http://gmo-journal.com/2011/10/27/the-honeybee-disappearance-gmo-connection/

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and now it's both pesticides AND GMO's... wow. you sure are smart.

tomcatjones said:

golly geee... less typing for me.. but a lot of reading for you.

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so very very smart. so intensely clever that you believe "GMO Journal" is a scientific journal, that EU bans on american ag products has anything to do with GMO's, rather than an convenient excuse for protecting of their own ag systems without wrecking their otherwise advantageous "free trade" agreements.
you greenies are so dumb, you cant even put two and two together and get that the EU is using GMO terror as a smokescreen for protectionism.

tomcatjones said:

oh and the flavonoid study had everything to do with GMO you just don't understand the larger picture of how the food we eat is the medicine of life.
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/beautiful-truth/

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more "science" i see. brilliant.
if i watch "an inconvenient truth" ill get accurate data on "global warming" too right? maybe "Loose Change version 37, The Really Final Cut, And This Time We Mean It" will "prove" that 9/11 was an inside job,

tomcatjones said:

i have not purchased corn from wal-mart in two-years. only roadside corn and i can havea discussion with the person who grew it. just like my cannabis.

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and in winter you eat what? ohh yeah, you think that roadside stand grows "Year Round Corn" and watermelons that ripen best when under 5 feet of snow....

tomcatjones said:

except i grow that myself and organically of course. and i take care of pests most by companion growing and other organic methods.

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and when your precious dope gets infested with spidermites, powdery mildew or budworms youll be spraying anything you can get. even Neem, which is LETHAL to bees.
arent you just the most special of all snowlflakes.

Pimpernickel said:

While I may find Monsanto's business practices despicable that should have no bearing on whether DNA modification is allowed. I also hate seeing 'natural' in any kind of argument that uses it to mean good or better. Natural has nothing to do with whether something is good or bad.

If you don't want GMO weed than don't grow it or smoke it, I want to and you have just as much justification to tell me I can't as people who want to tell you that you can't smoke weed because that's what they think is good for you.

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the problem is when you don't get a choice anymore... ask the canadians growing canola.. or rapeseed...

Dr Kynes said:

the NATURAL toxin used in BT corn is particularly toxic to caterpillars (budworms) but NOT so to humans and other mammals. those far there has been only ONNE study (out of many) which showed advrse reactions in rats. the rats were ffed BT corn at a rate far higher than people would consume, and the toxicology results were very minor, and the rats were not sick, did not die from eating BT corn, and the results have yet to be replicated. but you would have to stuff yourself with BT corn till you burst to get the results found in the rats, results which were asymptomatic untill the rats were terminated and examined in a necropsy.
the mad claims that BT cotton makes people who wear cotton clothing ill is absolutely ridonkulously retarded.


yes. pests become resistant to pesticides and other means of controlling them. they always have. whats your point?
pests like the rootworm, boll weevil and mosaic viruses drop crop yeilds in the toilet, and sometimes wipe out entire crops, developing methods to kill pests and save crops is not an evil profit motive, it is ESSENTIAL. burying your head in the dirt and claiming that pesticides are evil, and then declaring the only method that DOESNT use pesticides is even more evil is not helpful.

if the eco-nauts have a proposal to protect crops with "good vibes" and crystal power, why havent they stepped up?




why do you think everybody else "needs to learn more", when you are citing a blog post from a dolt who doesnt even understand what he is talking about?
GMO crops are NOT causing bee colony collapse syndrome.

this citation is absolutely useless. "terminator" seeds dont kill bees, nor do "terminator" seeds require pesticides to germinate, the plants grown from these seeds (and every one is an ANNUAL) are intended to produce sterile seeds at harvest, solely to prevent the sale of seeds to others, an the saving of seeds. GMO's are not the only sterile plants, several well known hybrid varieties of ordinary selective breeding crops produce sterile seeds. the seeds for these crops must be purchased from the hybridizer every year.
most of the crops referenced in this shitty rant arent even available as a GMO. tree fruits, tree nuts grapes, berries, etc etc etc are NOT GMO's. they dont grow from "terminator seeds" "terminator seeds" do not have any property which could affect bees when the plants are in flower for pollination, and in fact "terminatoer seeds" are NOT YET ON THE MARKET!

you are the one who needs to "learn more about" well... pretty much everything youre posting here.


ohh wait, just a moment ago it was the entirely theoretical "terminator seeds" that were killing off the bees, now its pesticides? amazing.


and now it's both pesticides AND GMO's... wow. you sure are smart.


so very very smart. so intensely clever that you believe "GMO Journal" is a scientific journal, that EU bans on american ag products has anything to do with GMO's, rather than an convenient excuse for protecting of their own ag systems without wrecking their otherwise advantageous "free trade" agreements.
you greenies are so dumb, you cant even put two and two together and get that the EU is using GMO terror as a smokescreen for protectionism.


more "science" i see. brilliant.
if i watch "an inconvenient truth" ill get accurate data on "global warming" too right? maybe "Loose Change version 37, The Really Final Cut, And This Time We Mean It" will "prove" that 9/11 was an inside job,


and in winter you eat what? ohh yeah, you think that roadside stand grows "Year Round Corn" and watermelons that ripen best when under 5 feet of snow....


and when your precious dope gets infested with spidermites, powdery mildew or budworms youll be spraying anything you can get. even Neem, which is LETHAL to bees.
arent you just the most special of all snowlflakes.

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LOL... havent had such problems in quite some time... and i don't pollinate my cannabis with bees... but i do wish one day they will be able to pollinate my hempseed bearing field in the future as well as collect hemp honey which will be off the charts with flavonoids.

EXCUSE ME, FOR I MUST APOLOGIZE FOR BEING AN IGNORANT SOCK PUPPET. WHO NOW UNDERSTANDS SHE REALLY KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT ANYTHING AND SHOULD JUST GO KILL HERSELF BEFORE SHE ROBS ANY OF YOU MASTERS OF ANY MORE AIR.

I WISH TO RETRACT A STATEMENT I MADE THINKING I WAS PROTECTING SOMEONES IDENTITY AFTER THEY ASKED ME TO DO JUST THAT IN A PHONE CALL I HAD RECEIVED FROM SOMEONE I THOUGHT WAS A GOOD FRIEND AND A COLLEAGUE WHO ASKED ME TO RELEASE THE DNA PROTECTION ACT AND TO

PROTECT THEIR IDENTITY WERE THIS PROJECT WAS CONCERNED

From: r k <lbm_aintdeadyet@yahoo.com>
To: "admin@designingyourworld.com" <admin@designingyourworld.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 11:44 AM
Subject: mary...

on my 1st post i wrote...
"This is exclusively a non-partisan and non-affiliated grass roots effort on behalf of all life and all the generations of life to come."
It should also be noted that while i do whole heatedly support all your efforts, I do not fly a flag of any kind, nor am i a member in that sense of any group or religion or whatever...just a human and thats what i was on that thread b4 this post:



"EXCUSE ME??? You must have me phucked up with your reflection. I think for and speak for Myself. Yet, it is funny that you would recognize me as being connected to this. When DNA hasn't revealed who they are. To say I am a Sock Puppet insinuates that DNA is mastering me or my master or pulling my strings.

Yes I am connected to this initiative. It was written by a member or members of Diverse Sanctuary who wish to remain nameless because they have no ego or intellectual need for personal profit... Who knows, maybe I wrote it. ???

Yet, there are no puppets here on this side of the fence. Promise you that!!!

YES! MY VOTE WAS ADDED! GUESS WHAT IT IS??? OR CAN YOU????????????"


I was on a mission mary and while i do love u and appreciate your efforts and sentiment it seems you had no regard for my mission because i feel that even still u have no understanding of what i was doing, otherwise u would probably have never posted there at all let alone this above that i had missed until last night...had to search back bcuz suddenly b'n called a puppet master bla bla...bcuz the above post came b4 page 70 it has basically torpedoed my efforts to use this thread as it was intended (to which i had gifted 2u 4such)...may seem small to u mary but meant a lot to me...i quit...im done...not ur fault...i've just had enough thats all.








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• r k

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• Mary Thomas-Spears

u made your own bed here mary...i told u i was writing a book and u apparently thought it was a debate or a game or whatever but u should have never posted there if u had any respect or understanding...instead u destroyed all the scientific viability as well as my credibility with 1 post that wasnt even true, not even all the SHDT's posts put together could have done such...thanks...do what u will mary because i think at this point u are far to incoherent to understand what u did or what im writing to u now about such.




[HR][/HR] From: Mary Thomas-Spears <admin@designingyourworld.com>
To: r k <lbm_aintdeadyet@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: mary...


excuse me?????????????? you said you wanted to remain autonomous and told me to put it out there

i was only trying to allow you that

it was i accused of being your puppet first

now you have the balls to treat me like a ignorant puppet

when i was only trying to protect your identity

phuck all this

you have finished me off thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

you are not the only one who has been under major attack

how many times have i been there for you????

when have you ever been there for me??????????????

done with this life PEACE OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HR][/HR]OBVIOUSLY I AM A IGNORANT SOCK PUPPET WHO HAS NO FRIENDS OR COLLEAGUES HERE

AND NOTHING IS WHAT I PERCEIVED IT TO BE

AND PEOPLE ON THIS SIDE OF THE MOVEMENT DON'T MIND USING PATIENTS AS STEPPING STONES ANY MORE THAN THOSE ON THE OTHER SIDE

AND OBVIOUSLY EVERYONE HAS AN EGO IN IT BUT ME

WHO HAD NO EGO AND NO REASON TO CONTINUE

SO CARRY ON LIKE I WAS NEVER HERE

TY TO THE MODERATORS WHO WERE KIND AND SUPPORTIVE HERE

BLESSINGS TO THE TWO OF YOU <3



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DiverseSanctuary said:

EXCUSE ME, FOR I MUST APOLOGIZE FOR BEING AN IGNORANT SOCK PUPPET. WHO NOW UNDERSTANDS SHE REALLY KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT ANYTHING AND SHOULD JUST GO KILL HERSELF BEFORE SHE ROBS ANY OF YOU MASTERS OF ANY MORE AIR.

I WISH TO RETRACT A STATEMENT I MADE THINKING I WAS PROTECTING SOMEONES IDENTITY AFTER THEY ASKED ME TO DO JUST THAT IN A PHONE CALL I HAD RECEIVED FROM SOMEONE I THOUGHT WAS A GOOD FRIEND AND A COLLEAGUE WHO ASKED ME TO RELEASE THE DNA PROTECTION ACT AND TO

PROTECT THEIR IDENTITY WERE THIS PROJECT WAS CONCERNED

From: r k <lbm_aintdeadyet@yahoo.com>
To: "admin@designingyourworld.com" <admin@designingyourworld.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 11:44 AM
Subject: mary...

on my 1st post i wrote...
"This is exclusively a non-partisan and non-affiliated grass roots effort on behalf of all life and all the generations of life to come."
It should also be noted that while i do whole heatedly support all your efforts, I do not fly a flag of any kind, nor am i a member in that sense of any group or religion or whatever...just a human and thats what i was on that thread b4 this post:



"EXCUSE ME??? You must have me phucked up with your reflection. I think for and speak for Myself. Yet, it is funny that you would recognize me as being connected to this. When DNA hasn't revealed who they are. To say I am a Sock Puppet insinuates that DNA is mastering me or my master or pulling my strings.

Yes I am connected to this initiative. It was written by a member or members of Diverse Sanctuary who wish to remain nameless because they have no ego or intellectual need for personal profit... Who knows, maybe I wrote it. ???

Yet, there are no puppets here on this side of the fence. Promise you that!!!

YES! MY VOTE WAS ADDED! GUESS WHAT IT IS??? OR CAN YOU????????????"


I was on a mission mary and while i do love u and appreciate your efforts and sentiment it seems you had no regard for my mission because i feel that even still u have no understanding of what i was doing, otherwise u would probably have never posted there at all let alone this above that i had missed until last night...had to search back bcuz suddenly b'n called a puppet master bla bla...bcuz the above post came b4 page 70 it has basically torpedoed my efforts to use this thread as it was intended (to which i had gifted 2u 4such)...may seem small to u mary but meant a lot to me...i quit...im done...not ur fault...i've just had enough thats all.








From

• r k

To

• Mary Thomas-Spears

u made your own bed here mary...i told u i was writing a book and u apparently thought it was a debate or a game or whatever but u should have never posted there if u had any respect or understanding...instead u destroyed all the scientific viability as well as my credibility with 1 post that wasnt even true, not even all the SHDT's posts put together could have done such...thanks...do what u will mary because i think at this point u are far to incoherent to understand what u did or what im writing to u now about such.




[HR][/HR] From: Mary Thomas-Spears <admin@designingyourworld.com>
To: r k <lbm_aintdeadyet@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: mary...


excuse me?????????????? you said you wanted to remain autonomous and told me to put it out there

i was only trying to allow you that

it was i accused of being your puppet first

now you have the balls to treat me like a ignorant puppet

when i was only trying to protect your identity

phuck all this

you have finished me off thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

you are not the only one who has been under major attack

how many times have i been there for you????

when have you ever been there for me??????????????

done with this life PEACE OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HR][/HR]OBVIOUSLY I AM A IGNORANT SOCK PUPPET WHO HAS NO FRIENDS OR COLLEAGUES HERE

AND NOTHING IS WHAT I PERCEIVED IT TO BE

AND PEOPLE ON THIS SIDE OF THE MOVEMENT DON'T MIND USING PATIENTS AS STEPPING STONES ANY MORE THAN THOSE ON THE OTHER SIDE

AND OBVIOUSLY EVERYONE HAS AN EGO IN IT BUT ME

WHO HAD NO EGO AND NO REASON TO CONTINUE

SO CARRY ON LIKE I WAS NEVER HERE

TY TO THE MODERATORS WHO WERE KIND AND SUPPORTIVE HERE

BLESSINGS TO THE TWO OF YOU <3



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LOL thats quite a meltdown

so diversesanctury your mary thomas spears?

what church are you rev at?

Dr Kynes said:

psych-ops?

ohhh you mean Psy-Ops.

you think im trying to get inside your head and manipulate you?

im a farm hand, not a psychologist you paranoid loon.

your paranoia is pretty obvious, as well as your delusions, narcissism, and general instability.

i cant tell for sure yet whether youre Don Quixote, Napoleon Bonaparte, or Canute The Great.

keep yammering though,, ill figure it out.

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Heh! A farm hand twilighting as a self proclaimed expert on everything.

Good stuff

ginjawarrior said:

LOL thats quite a meltdown

so diversesanctury your mary thomas spears?

what church are you rev at?

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Wow, posting your personal shit on a pot forum.

What's the worst that could happen?

st0wandgrow said:

Heh! A farm hand twilighting as a self proclaimed expert on everything.

Good stuff

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such disdain for the hard working people who make your comfortable city life so pleasant.
i forgot, us hillbillies should leave the readin and thinkin to yalll, since you's our betters and we should tug our forelocks and cast our eyes to the mud when you ride by.

sorry to have offended you massah.

i wont be uppity no mo.