Mos Cutty Project a Big Lie

Chek it out. He calls it "The Mos Cutty Project, A search For Truth". If you want more info about this con man and his games, Google, Mos Cutty Project. He sells seeds but no one gets the strain they thought they were getting, just some hermie shit of unknown origin and now theres proof. According to the old timers who have bought his garbage he uses hermie plants to make hermie plants and it's not even the strain it's supposed to be. This guy is a big con and he's been taking people for a ride. Here's what he posted Feb 8 2012 at ICMag-

"Greetings All,
Thought I’d fire up a journal to document this story of 5 beans that I acquired from a friend who owned a local collective that was recently been forced to shutdown. For the purpose of this story we will call him “Fred.” I have known Fred for a few years and have always enjoyed our chats on genetics and found him to be a knowledgeable source. When Fred opened his Dispensary, we continued to meet and talk shop and sample meds, mostly my stuff not the stuff in his shop. One meeting Fred informed me of a skittish old timer who came in with a bean collection Fred called amazing, tons of original Dutch, Canadian, Heavens Stairway, Landrace, etc. He told me the old timer had traveled extensively to Holland, Canada, and Asia to collect genetics and has been passionately hording, selecting and breeding for over 20 years.
So of course I asked to see the collection. A few months went by, the next meeting he pulls out this collection of at least 100 original packs and F2’s and crosses made by the donor with detailed notes on the selection process. This is one of those times you want to freak out and say you’ll buy it all! But I contained myself knowing this guy likes $$$ and would want a hefty fee. I asked him about price and he said $20-$40 per bean. At that point I asked about germination test, how the beans were stored, photos, med samples, to figure out if this stuff was legit. He told me he would get back to me and would hold the beans until he was sure. Another month goes by and we meet, he informs me germ test are working out but no pictures. So I decided to cut a deal on a few original packs. Fred wanted F2’s to sell at his shop and I wanted source material for future breeding. The deal was made that he’d sell me 5 of the 10 Space Queen beans along with 5 Black Domina. I asked for the 5 with the packaging but of course Fred being a businessman kept them to ensure I’d be back. I would test them out and we’d cut a deal for the rest of the original collection and some of the F2’s of other strains done by the source. Being that Fred loved genetics I was not worried about him selling the collection. He wanted to make money but he also wanted them preserved.
The most noticeable trait of the beans is they are white with beige strips, most would not believe they would crack. This was my first clue that these in fact might be legit. I had heard the legend of Space Queen beans looking premature.
I dropped all 5 beans and tried to relax, work forced me out of town so my wife was left watching them in the bath. Two days later I returned home to 4 of 5 tails showing. I tried every trick in the book on the 5th seed but it did not go.

Of the 4 remaining seeds, 1 was very strong with lots of vigor, 2 were struggling and one was pretty weak. I wanted to notify Fred they were struggling but up, In that next moment I get a call from a mutual friend telling me Fred’s shop had been shutdown and his phone lines were disconnected.

I freaked and think to myself,” Why the fuck didn’t you buy all you could from that collection?” At the time it was the 20-40 dollar a bean price tag!
Currently I still have not heard from Fred and don’t know what happened to the bean collection when he was shut down. My hopes are that Fred will return safely with the rest of the collection intact. For now I will focus on my end of the deal and create more beans if I find a pair.
Mos
"


Now the other night at Michigan Medical Marijuana Growers website, Mos Cutty admitted the above is a fabrication and a lie. He started out saying he aquired a strain that was thought extinct called Space Queen from Fred (above), then Subcool, the BCGA. The only reason he'd tell the lie is to try to con us into believeing he found this Holy Grail of strains and now he sells the seeds. But according to people who know the strain they are not Space Queen.So what the hell did he sell people? If not Space Queen then what? This guy is a rip off. Don't buy seeds from this con man!
 

TonightYou

Well-Known Member
The old sayin "if it sounds too good to be true...."

Don't be buying unknown seeds. The problem has a simple solution.
 

Galvatron

Well-Known Member
On the opposite side of this story I met a guy who breeds and actually sounded like he was talking down his cross. Turns out he was just a honest dude and his work was awesome. In these days it seems the guy who shouts the loudest gets noticed so guys shout, but theres always that one person who's not doing the same thing as the rest but has the knowledge. They seem to het over looked though.
 

gudkarma

New Member
not shocking.
frauds are everywhere in the canna game.

mr cosmic bubba has a seed creepo subforum?

no big buzz over there ? no hub bub to milk like a teet?

what's next somebody gonna recommend the newest offering from matt riot ?
 

Jogro

Well-Known Member
Its pretty simple.

The ceed business is still entirely unregulated.

Reputation matters . . .a LOT.

If you get beans from unknown breeders, you're taking a chance.

IMO, there are so many inexpensive lines available from so many good breeders right now, that there is little reason to gamble with questionable genetics.
 

TheMan13

Well-Known Member
I had recently tried meds from a fresh harvest of Mos' SpaceQueen F3. The grower had some issues and that last heatwave in the final weeks did not help. He was a bit disappointed, but experienced enough to see through it. That said, anyone whom had experienced Vic High's original Space Queen knows she had a specific aftertaste and that was indeed present in Mos' offspring. The aftertaste is impossible for me to put into words, but if you've ever had the original Bubblegum, she has a similar aftertaste. Personally I was impressed and lucky enough to be gifted a couple cuts from his pick and will keep you posted :weed:
 

ProfessorPotSnob

New Member
I am sure Moss could explain to you that there is diversity within the Space Queen right from its original glory days . Many odd cherished Sativas have came down the pipe in the space queen lineage . Romulan was more Sat in origin being a Korean that was outcrossed with the short pheno always being favored although most think of it as a P1 Kush/Indica . Sounds like environmental and grower issues at hand and fault , but realize not every bean will be a winer no matter the breeder or parents chosen, sad to say !
 
I had recently tried meds from a fresh harvest of Mos' SpaceQueen F3. The grower had some issues and that last heatwave in the final weeks did not help. He was a bit disappointed, but experienced enough to see through it. That said, anyone whom had experienced Vic High's original Space Queen knows she had a specific aftertaste and that was indeed present in Mos' offspring. The aftertaste is impossible for me to put into words, but if you've ever had the original Bubblegum, she has a similar aftertaste. Personally I was impressed and lucky enough to be gifted a couple cuts from his pick and will keep you posted :weed:
Well yeah it does have some of that taste but it's weak and nothing much like real Space Queen. My guess is he has a Space Queen cross, just not Space Queen. I Just think Mos cutty shouldn't have lied about it and its origins like some Knights of the Round Table search for the Holy Grail where he's the hero and finds it. He treats everyone like they're stoopid. That and according to the grower half of them went hermie on him and he decided in the end not to keep it. He wasn't happy and I don't blame him.
 

gudkarma

New Member
ow no.
here's where the influx of seed creepo idiots starts.

drank , kab, taaldow , jb, hippiefag20, sick grower (cmt1984) , matt riot, and the entire douche bag crew getting ready to defend cutty's honor.

you think ,they'll register in droves to bolster another hack ?

you think , jb (& his little dick sucker , hippiefag20) gonna try and hack a few accounts ?

you think, with the help of skuckcock i mean skunkdOc, pass out an old password or two to see if they could stop the OP from talking?

maybe seed creepo will take a few private messages or comments the OP made and twist them into new & exciting things ?

for example :


 
Dr greenthumb,

Stop being butthurt. you got roasted on the michigan medical website because you are a cheap ass hypocritical bullshitter. Lets have a full page ad on hightimes every month and then talk shit about it. You are a giant tool, we dont want your hackjob genetics here in Michigan ...go away
 

OGMan

Well-Known Member
Dr greenthumb,

Stop being butthurt. you got roasted on the michigan medical website because you are a cheap ass hypocritical bullshitter. Lets have a full page ad on hightimes every month and then talk shit about it. You are a giant tool, we dont want your hackjob genetics here in Michigan ...go away
listen Mos Cutty, skip the alias we know its you. I just read the whole thing on MMMG and it was you that got roasted not Greenthumb, lol. You clearly stated you lied about your genetics. If you wanted to keep one shred of rep you should never have admitted to lying and you might have been in with a chance. Rule of thumb. Never, ever admit to anything fool.
 

OGMan

Well-Known Member
ow no.
here's where the influx of seed creepo idiots starts.

drank , kab, taaldow , jb, hippiefag20, sick grower (cmt1984) , matt riot, and the entire douche bag crew getting ready to defend cutty's honor.

you think ,they'll register in droves to bolster another hack ?

you think , jb (& his little dick sucker , hippiefag20) gonna try and hack a few accounts ?

you think, with the help of skuckcock i mean skunkdOc, pass out an old password or two to see if they could stop the OP from talking?

maybe seed creepo will take a few private messages or comments the OP made and twist them into new & exciting things ?

for example :



Spot on. They'll defend Mos Cutty because there's money in it for them but it's pretty hard to undo an admission of lying
 
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