A man is a man to me. I'm not all into the who did this and that or who left where. I just want good quality seeds. MJ has been growing for years....These 3 men aren't the originators of anything. Getting a couple/few good quality strains means nada because ALL strains come from the planet. I'm sure they may be good breeders, but I doubt they are any different than the likes of other good breeders. Wu Tang is old school(not really...old school to me is Slick Rick and etc.), but even so Wu Tang can't hold a candle to the likes of Eminem, Lil Wayne, Drake, and etc.....get my point? Real talk, these seeds better be worth it or the I'm putting them on blast. They will be here in less than 4 days.
Mr. Nice SSH or Sannies?
- Thread starter steve kelley
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sleeperls93
Active Member
i would have to say, in my opinion, some from the wu-tang can hold a candle to those you mentioned, method, reakwon, gza... were all very good.... None of those you mentioned, especially drake can NOT hold a candle to the likes of Rakim, early Nas, without a doubt, biggie, and i believe big pun will crush them all!! all!!
To each it's own, but I don't think anyone from the Wu can get with Drake. Their whole style is played out and old. Hence why that old slick NY talk isn't worth a hoot anymore. Not to mention their aren't hardly any artist from NY that are even hot right now. The South is running the whole Rap/Hip Hop game right now. I do agree, Rakim, Nas(Especially Illmatic), Biggie...all were great.....I will even add 2Pac (The Greatest...R.I.P),Mos Def, EPMD, Tribe Called Quest, Talib Kweli, The LOX, Lauryn Hill/The Fugees, Brand Nubians, Gang Starr(R.I.P Guru), Goodie Mobb, The D.O.C, AZ, Big L, BDP(R.I.P Scott La Rock)....Just to name a few. Big Pun(R.I.P) was OK, but he couldn't spit as well as Drake...Have you even heard Drakes album? If not, do so and then see if you can make that same comment...Hell even mediocre Gudda Gudda or lame ass Gucci Mane will eat him for breakfast...LOL...Maybe not Gucci Mane...LOL...Smoking and bumpin "DWYCK" right now!
FYI, tell me one verse that Big Pun has spit that is better than this verse by Drake....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg6XKJqStqo
Big Pun just can't see Drake pimpin'...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRLSQDCkcaA&feature=related
On that note....Dueces!.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXysIcnF8E4&feature=related
Beansly
RIU Bulldog
The only reason you know the name Green House is because of Nevil and Shantibaba. Their weed probably isn't any better than any other weed in that it's just weed, and the breeders are just dudes, not gods. But if you go into it with the idea that "Mr. Nice is supposed to be the best, so it better be the best," you'll probably be disappointed. The thing that makes Mr. Nice attractive is their philosophy and attitude.
1) Howard Marks, owner of Mr. Nice and the guy on the logo, is a convicted marijuana smuggler. He's a weed activist and true blue stoner. He doesn't hide behind the "medicating" shield. He says he smokes to get high.
2) The whole circle those guys ran in are responsible for starting the first commercial seed banks in Holland and proliferating genetics to the whole world.
i.e.
Nevil Schoenmakers
David Watson
Rob Clarke
Eddy (The Flying Dutchman)
Ben Dronkers (Sensi Seeds)
Soma
Luke (Paradise)
Simon (Serious Seeds)
3) Shantibaba, a breeder for Mr. Nice, is responsible for creating White Widow, White Russian and what is popularly know as "Great White Shark"
4) Compared to other seed companies there seeds are a bargain. You get 18 for what you pay, and they're still usually cheaper than most people pay for ten
And much more. Go to their website and download all the pdf's. They're informative, and will give you more of an insight into the Mr. Nice philosophy.
http://www.mrnice.nl/dhtml/media_pdf_archive.php
Flo Grow
Well-Known Member
And THAT'S real talk from Beansly !
+REP
A mafucka offer some REAL advice and get's hit up with some simple minded, uneducated bullshit.
One minute you (THROWED) want some fire, the next "a couple/few good quality strains means nada...."
Either you want heat or you want shit, which one is it ?!
I could point you to a gang of bullshit, just let me know !
+REP
A mafucka offer some REAL advice and get's hit up with some simple minded, uneducated bullshit.
One minute you (THROWED) want some fire, the next "a couple/few good quality strains means nada...."
Either you want heat or you want shit, which one is it ?!
I could point you to a gang of bullshit, just let me know !
Beansly
RIU Bulldog
Well you and duchie have proven how much of a noob you are to the REAL story of cannabis proliferation and commercial seeds sales and breeding in Holland. Anyone who knows anything about pot knows to give it up to the Mr. Nice crew (Nev,Shanti,HM). Unless your just a hater.
If it wasn't for originators like Howard Marks, Sam the Skunkman, Nevil, Shantibaba, The Haze Brothers etc, you would have to travel to the countries of origin for landrace cannabis seeds, and breed your own. These guys have done decades worth of work so you have the freedom to stuff money in an envelope and get quality genetics, just so you can grow some in a closet in your mom's spare bedroom.
The best part is their philosophy; they do it for the anarchy of it all. They hate governments and what they do to cannabis smokers and just want to spread as many seeds across the globe and overgrow the establishment. They are a true activists' activist.
So when I hear some no-name peon, nobody, bashing on the king, I gotta speak up.
duchieman
Well-Known Member
I do recall saying this. I also have done research on the Greenhouse guys and just read a fair chunk of the Mr. Nice bio that Shantibaba wrote. He's not the only one in the world with pot history and skills.
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4762.html
Beansly
RIU Bulldog
Whatever guys, I've said my peace.
Like I said, those guys aren't Gods. They just have a cool philosophy, great genetics and above average skills.
18 seeds for the same you'd pay for 5 from a lesser company.
Idk or care, make your own choice. I know what I'm buying.
Beansly
RIU Bulldog
I see your a Dr. Atomic fan.
I don't know his/her story so I couldn't say one way or another, but the first line in his story say he bought seeds from amsterdam;
"I acquired the original Northern Lights in 1988 from the seed banks in Amsterdam"
He can thank Nevil for that.
duchieman
Well-Known Member
Look, I'm not trying to pick a fight. I'm just trying to point out what I had already said before you called me a noob. I'm sorry but I find that offensive. I just admitted that I was inexperienced, and yes I'm "new" to growing but I sure ain't new to life or Pot. The reason I read that story and liked it so much is because that's how I remember things going down in history, and any guy who has history like that has got to have all the same characteristics you speak of that the Greenhouse guys have. It is that illusive tropical sativa that I used to smoke as a teenager, before the invention of the MH bulb and indoor growing came along, that I'm after really and is why I "started" with the Jack Hammer. Also, I'm not trying to have a pissing contest with Amsterdam, but Amsterdam didn't acquire their original seeds from their backyard either, and, I hope out of respect alone, that you read past the first line because you'll see he didn't acquire everything in his recipes from there. Again, Steve was looking for comparison and I gave him the one side that I had to give. And I haven't tried Dr. A yet, but they are next on my list, for the same reason Greenhouse guys are on yours.
My apologies Steve if I riled up your thread.
Duchie
My apologies Steve if I riled up your thread.
Duchiewell no, actualy he can thank growers in PNW of America for that
Beansly
RIU Bulldog
Maybe in principle, but actually one story of NL says that it originated in California an made it's way to Seattle. But the most credible story says it was grown by a man called "The Indian" on an island of Washington. He labeled them #1-#11 with #5 being the killer keeper of the bunch and #1 at a close second (that's why you mostly only see those two). Nevil Shoenemaker was gifted clones and immediately brought them to Holland and started refining them. He created the seeds that made them available to the world.
Today the plants in their original form are no longer available. The closest relatives can be bought from Sensi Seed (formerly The Seed Bank, another co. made famous by Nevil's genetics) as Shiva Skunk, Silver Pearl, and Jack Herer.
Get your knowledge up kid
First of all....Dude you DON'T know me, but I will clear you assumptions up...The only reason I know of Green House Seed Company is because I went to the Attitude looking for seeds. Unlike you and a few others I don't dick ride a company just because what a person or two did at a company. All that bullshit about who "created" this or that means a hill of beans to me. A breed is just another breeder. I mean how hard is it to put to strains together and make a new/different strain? You're talking this non sense about philosophy and attitude? All that means NOTHING to a grower! Either their seeds are good or they are not.
It's amazing that you and a few other think this company is "the" breeder when they don't even offer FEMINIZED seeds. Hell, even KC Brains offers FEMINIZED seeds now, but Mr. Nice is suppose to be "all that".
1. What does this guy going to jail have to do with me buying and growing his seeds. Anyone here at RIU forums can get busted at anytime so this guy is no better than anyone of us. You are just as silly as they people that think 50 cent is "gangsta" just because he got shot before.
2. That circle did not do anything that would have been done eventually. You act as if these guys are "gods" CREATING something that wasn't in nature already.
3. Who cares what Shantibaba created. Some guy created the iron along time ago, but look how the iron has been IMPROVED. Their are digital irons with auto shut off and etc. Should we dick ride that made the first iron while others have taken the invention and made it BETTER? I guess we all must agree that FORD makes the "best" cars since they were the first to make one. Get the fuck outta hea'.
4. Dude, their are other companies that sell inxepensive seeds. Look at KC Brains. You can get a pack of 10 seeds for 10.99 Euro. The cheapest Mr. Nice seeds you can get at the attitude is a pack of 18 Walkabouts for 20.99 Euro. Everything after that is 30.99 Euros or more. How is that great value? 30.99 for REGULAR seeds? No one knows what ratio you will get of female/male plants. I'd much rather spend 14-17 Euros for 5 FEMINIZED seeds first. Green House offers Super Bud, Exodus Cheese, and etc, for cheaper. Female Seed Company offers White Widow, Pure AK, and etc. for roughly 14-15 Euros for FEMINIZED seeds!
PDF file? Are you serious? Green House Seeds offer more information than Mr. Nice. They have a catalog....VIDEO GROWS.....They even show you how to germinate their seeds for those that don't much about growing. They also GUANRANTEE that their seed will germinate or they will REPLACE them. Female Seeds offer the same GUANRANTEE. I had a issue with a few Female Seeds Co strains and they shipped me replacements eventhough I bought my seeds from The Attitude. FMS don't usually ship to the US, but they did for me. Does Mr. Nice offer the same customer service? I hope so. I got my Mr. Nice seeds today and if all of them don't germinate then I will want them replaced....
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When did I ever say I didn't want "fire". I am growing so many different strains that is ridiculous! At the moment I'm growing strains from Green House, FMS, Emeral Triangle, Budda Seeds, Delicious Seeds, TH Seeds, KC Brains, Barney's Farm and etc. just to name a few so wtf are you on about. You couldn't advise me on anything pimp!
We are noobs because we don't give a damn about the drama that you and a few others care about. Dude, I smoke and I grow. I don't care about the history of Green house or any of the names you "dropped". Only bitches worry about shit like that. I only care about getting good seeds and good smoke. Could careless about them advocating. Are you serious? I swear some of you make me laugh so damn hard. FYI, the only "KING" of Cannibis is God so have a cup of STFU dude. You sound so silly. People have been smoke Ganja for THOUSANDS of years....People didn't need Mr. Nice to get high pal. Grow up and get a life! One guy nor a group guys can ever be the "king" of cannabis? To think so shows just how idiotic your thinking is.
I agree. I am reserving my comments about Mr. Nice gear until I have grown it out, but you can bet your ass that I will have pics and a full report of Mr. Nice verses the likes of KC Brains, Green House, Female Seeds, and etc.
xebeche
Well-Known Member
Cool. This I would like to see.
steve kelley
Member
Sorry, did not want anyone getting mad at one another, I am going to try Greenhouse,s super lemon haze, and some grapefruit from females seeds, thanks to all!!