My first class with the golden teacher
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aCiDjEsUs
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How long can substrate stay in the jar before it starts to dry out? I made one batch of jars last night, and one batch today in the morning, I don't mind steaming them again I'm just worrying about the substrate becoming dry. So this question is for the seasoned mycologists out there 
polyarcturus
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weeks. i used popcorn that had been sitting in the jar(tyvek and holes in top for ventilation) for 4 weeks worked just like they where new. my jars tend to be a little more saturated than most probably.
ive also used pasteurized substrate that had been sitting in a gallon bag, unzipped of course just had to top folded over,for 2 months with out contamination when i spawned to it, got contaminated from air flow from the grow tho.:/
its pretty much inactive once you get it where you want and if you dont really fuck with it and put it in a stable place nothing will really happen.
ive also used pasteurized substrate that had been sitting in a gallon bag, unzipped of course just had to top folded over,for 2 months with out contamination when i spawned to it, got contaminated from air flow from the grow tho.:/
its pretty much inactive once you get it where you want and if you dont really fuck with it and put it in a stable place nothing will really happen.
RetiredMatthebrute
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so my spores are in my state now. should be in in the AM and will get this project rolling.
aCiDjEsUs
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Lucky You
Shit mine didn't made it today 
and no movement on my tracking either..Matt did yours move at all?
technical dan
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Good to hear matt. GL acid hope you get the word soon. My were just sent out from Ore. tracking is saying they'll be here on monday!
aCiDjEsUs
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Thanks Dan, mine should be here today "Your item is out for delivery at 9:32 am on February 23, 2013"
RetiredMatthebrute
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well got my spores in and headed out this AM. have been busy today. will get to pics in a few right now im just not feeling it. jars are all inoculated, hope i did well.
Thundercat
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Well now the wait starts, good luck man I hope it works awesome for ya. How many jars did you end up doing up, just the golden teachers?
RetiredMatthebrute
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i did 12 1/2 pint jars of golden teacher. going to do 6 pans if all of them turn out well but im expecting some contamed jars as this is my first go at it and my glove box did not work out as planned. the style worked fine but the adhesive i used to glue the glove collars on didnt hold because the gloves were way too small for my hands and i had to use excessive force to get my hands in. used a string bleach water solution on everything though and still used the gloves and box but it wasnt as sealed as i would have liked it. ill get some pics up in a little bit i have lots of them.
aCiDjEsUs
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Awesome Matt, I also knocked up 10 of my jars with both of the strains (5each) so will see if anything happens, I'm most likely will see some conta. but like you said it's out first time
LoL Matt I had the same problem with my glows I had a hard time to put them but some how I managed to get the 10 jars knocked up. So know we just got to wait.
RetiredMatthebrute
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i ended up using 1 whole syringe and partial of another. my plan was to knock up 12 jars with one syringe but its difficult to be precise in that tiny glovebox so i had to bust out the other syringe.
aCiDjEsUs
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My first jar got around 1cc in one hole lol I pressed the syringe to hard and BAM but on the other ones I was more careful and I think I got it rite, you rite working in a glove box is kinda pain in the ass, maybe next time I'll just get a big ass plastic tote and work with that will see...
RetiredMatthebrute
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ok so heres some pics, really nothing special. hope i didnt overdo the bleach water solution.
wannagrowsum
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Hi Retired. I grew some GTs a few years ago and they were awesome. I didn't use a glove box. I read a technique of turning an oven on (I don't remember the temp, but it wasn't too hot) keeping the oven door open, and working right in front of it. The idea was that the heat kept any germs from coming down into your work area. I only did two at first in case I screwed up.
I put the cakes in a plastic ice chest with a fishtank heater submersed in a large glass of water. Innoculation quickly took place (relatively). For me, that was the easy part. I then put the cakes in a plastic bin. This is where I had my main problem. I saw a technique of drilling a bunch of holes in a plastic bin and filling the bottom with perlite. The cakes would not fruit. I think I had them in there for close to a month with no results. I had a hydrometer and the humidity readings would never get high enough (I don't remember what they were now). I lived in a humid enviroment at the time maybe this had something to do with it? One cake went bad and I had to throw it out. Desperation led me to research outdoor cultivation. At the time there was little info on outdoor cultivation. I finally found one post that had a technique. I had to make layers of hay and cow manure (organic only) and break up my remaining cake and spread it in. I picked a shady spot. I would lightly water the area every morning. A week later I saw this:
Almost a week later I had this:
And here was my first harvest, minutes before ingestion. It was about 2 1/2 grams. They say a Hero's dose is around 5, but two and a half were enough to blow my mind. (I'll tell you a little about that in another post).
A week later I had a second flush:
I got a third flush, but it was a smaller harvest.
I then innoculated more cakes. I got another plastic tub for fruiting. This time I only put a couple of holes in the top. I put wet perlite in. I still had to put 2 glasses of water in with airstones to help get the humidity up. Even with all that, I had to spray the sides twice a day and keep the air conditioning on in the room. I don't know why I had such a hard time with humidity. But I finally got indoor results:
The flat part that is at the bottom of the frame was the first growth. I guess I had the cake upside down, because it was growing on the bottom. I turned it around but alas, it was too late for that one. Here's what I got:
And a few more:
Good luck on your journey. The Golden Teachers will certainly teach you, even more so because you will have had a relationship with them by that time. Let us know how it goes.
I put the cakes in a plastic ice chest with a fishtank heater submersed in a large glass of water. Innoculation quickly took place (relatively). For me, that was the easy part. I then put the cakes in a plastic bin. This is where I had my main problem. I saw a technique of drilling a bunch of holes in a plastic bin and filling the bottom with perlite. The cakes would not fruit. I think I had them in there for close to a month with no results. I had a hydrometer and the humidity readings would never get high enough (I don't remember what they were now). I lived in a humid enviroment at the time maybe this had something to do with it? One cake went bad and I had to throw it out. Desperation led me to research outdoor cultivation. At the time there was little info on outdoor cultivation. I finally found one post that had a technique. I had to make layers of hay and cow manure (organic only) and break up my remaining cake and spread it in. I picked a shady spot. I would lightly water the area every morning. A week later I saw this:
Almost a week later I had this:
And here was my first harvest, minutes before ingestion. It was about 2 1/2 grams. They say a Hero's dose is around 5, but two and a half were enough to blow my mind. (I'll tell you a little about that in another post).
A week later I had a second flush:
I got a third flush, but it was a smaller harvest.
I then innoculated more cakes. I got another plastic tub for fruiting. This time I only put a couple of holes in the top. I put wet perlite in. I still had to put 2 glasses of water in with airstones to help get the humidity up. Even with all that, I had to spray the sides twice a day and keep the air conditioning on in the room. I don't know why I had such a hard time with humidity. But I finally got indoor results:
The flat part that is at the bottom of the frame was the first growth. I guess I had the cake upside down, because it was growing on the bottom. I turned it around but alas, it was too late for that one. Here's what I got:
And a few more:
Good luck on your journey. The Golden Teachers will certainly teach you, even more so because you will have had a relationship with them by that time. Let us know how it goes.
RetiredMatthebrute
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hey man....looks like you had a rough start but seems like determination and persistance paid off for you. im sure each grow you do afterwards will only be better.
it seems what you did with the straw and manure is a form of "casing" which is what im going to be doing. maybe look into the popcorn tek and try doing it without the cakes in a bulk grow. using a casing of your choice..from what the guys on here have said this is how you produce more quanity without sacrificing quality...
anyways glad to have ya here, and glad things worked out for you in the long run...hope you stay tuned for our first sucess and failure stories
it seems what you did with the straw and manure is a form of "casing" which is what im going to be doing. maybe look into the popcorn tek and try doing it without the cakes in a bulk grow. using a casing of your choice..from what the guys on here have said this is how you produce more quanity without sacrificing quality...
anyways glad to have ya here, and glad things worked out for you in the long run...hope you stay tuned for our first sucess and failure stories
Thundercat
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Looks like it was a busy day for sure if you did 12 jars. Thats about how many i started with, then did another batch I think a week or two later to get the second round( and other strains)going. Good luck man Got my fingers crossed for you on the contams.
technical dan
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Looks good matt I hope it was/stays clean.
polyarcturus
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i got free prints for everyone at the end of this grow for B+ so for every one that reaches fruits(with pics of course), you can get a free B+ print. that will be my ultimate contribution to the thread.
its a print not a syringe... i dont feel like going to get the syringes and do the work of putting them in there, but i can give you prints which are pretty easy to work from, it will help you guys expand your knowledge too.
its a print not a syringe... i dont feel like going to get the syringes and do the work of putting them in there, but i can give you prints which are pretty easy to work from, it will help you guys expand your knowledge too.
Thundercat
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I like making my own syringes, storing prints is way easier too. I've had some stored for about 4 years now just waiting for a chance to use them again.