My first class with the golden teacher

Jumpin right in huh matt.
I cant wait to eat some fresh ones ..... I dont mind the taste of dry shrooms.
Java I happen to be in the SW.

Guys, let me direct your attention at an option that never occurred to
me until I had piles more fruits than I needed: TEA

Shroom tea is a wonderful option. Much less stomach upset. Fast absorption.

Take care,

JD

technical dan said:

I think I have seen others say fresh shrooms are 90% water by mass so you can neatly reduce by a factor of 10 (30 grams wet= 3 grams dry) but I have not made it far enough to know if that is accurate.

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more like 92 percent, however, when you dry the mushroom one of the two (or three) psychoactives is depleated. So in essence the fresh ones are a bit stonger and for me anyway, they have a different character, more bright, airy, exuberant.
It is entirely possible that a sensitive person could feel three grams fresh. Not much but I know I can sense the change.

polyarcturus said:

an empty stomach might put you over the edge. lol i always eat before any drug. my theory beside needing more of the chemical, its better to be well fed and dead than dead and not fed.

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And I always fast. For anything, I don't want the drug diluted by food, I want it all in my system NOW. There are some drugs that will give me a distinct rush if I eat them on an empty stomach wherupon if I eat them on a full one, they just sort of slide into place.

And


I like rushes.


The only drug I will ONLY take on a full stomach is the nicotine from a strong cigar - if I don't then I am doomed to vomit whatever I might have had there, or at least get real real green in the face.

RetiredMatthebrute said:

i ate my entire first flush HAHAHA

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Won't be long before that would be a very unwise act.

canndo said:

It is entirely possible that a sensitive person could feel three grams fresh. Not much but I know I can sense the change.

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Definitely. Even just a sense that things are subtly different, images a bit sharper.

I wanted to share this somewhere, and this looks to be a good spot.

This video makes some interesting arguments, but the cool old dude (Gerld Heard it turns out)
at 1:50 really tries to nail it down for the uninitiated.

[video=youtube;3shL389L2EY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3shL389L2EY[/video]

Suddenly you notice that there aren't these separations,

that we are not on a separate island shouting across to somebody else

and trying to hear what they are saying and misunderstanding.

You know. You used the word yourself. Empathy.

This thing's flowing underneath. We're parts of a single continent.

It meets underneath the water.

And with that goes such delight.

The sober certainty of waking bliss.

(all apologies for anyone I have already thrown this at...I just liked it ;0)

Take care,

JD

Cool video.

Matt I'm glad you had a good night, I'm sure you got a nice feel for the feel and change you get from them. Like Canndo said I like them fresh for the trip aspects more then dry as well.

After my first trip about 3g I can say I honestly felt like my "third eye" had been opened. The more trips I've had over the years the stronger I feel that the mushrooms open a bridge in our minds and souls to our unconcious. I have felt much more in touch with myself ever since, and with the world we live in.

I don't know what you are trying to say here Javadog. The point is that it is not in the best interest for the state for the individuals of that state to be enabled to question the basis of their role in that state. That promotes disharmony and ultimately rebellion. Anyone who thinks too clearly about anything endanger's the state but individuals are only a small threat, extend this enlightenment to the masses and bad things can happen to the orgaizaton that is the state.

Of course there is damage to the individual in the course of this enlightenment and that damage is what the state points to as the reason these enlightening drugs should be kept out of the hands of the population.

the tell there is the state's near absolute refusal to allow studies to progress using these substances. In reality, in the nature of the world and the universe there is NO substance on earth that has "no redeeming value". Everything has some value to some situation and yet the government has seen fit to actually corral a group of chemicals and place this very label upon them. "this substance has no importance to any thing or any one in any situation ever - period". The most dangerous toxin in the world, one that surely has no value is the toxin produced by Clostridium botulinum and by rights it should be highly controlled if danger to the public really is a concern - yet even this stuff has found a use - injecting it into women's faces.

That tells me that the danger has nothing to do with health but everything to do with enlightenement.

This is my first time growing as well, It didn't go as smoothly as i thought lol..
I decided to go with polyfil lids and use popcorn. This is the tek I am going to follow http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595/fpart/1/vc/1.

I boiled the popcorn till some of the kernels split then let dry for 3 hours; put them in the PC wrapped in foil at 15psi for 1 hour. I took them out of the PC and every jar had a small pool of water, I am assuming it is from only letting them dry for 3hours or I didn’t wrap the foil tight enough?? I ignored the pools of water and waited till the next morning to innoc them; I ended up inoculating every jar twice because I realized I only put 1cc in all 12 jars lol. The temp of the room for the first ten days was between 68-70 degrees and then picked up to 76 and is when I started to see growth. In those ten days the pools of water got smaller and as of now none of my quart jars have any contamination. I didn’t turn on the a/c and just let the natural temp do its thing. I think I got extremely lucky and can’t wait till jars are fully colonized.
I have learned a lot from this thread and hope it encourages more people to give it a try.

Killua said:

This is my first time growing as well, It didn't go as smoothly as i thought lol..
I decided to go with polyfil lids and use popcorn. This is the tek I am going to follow http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595/fpart/1/vc/1.

I boiled the popcorn till some of the kernels split then let dry for 3 hours; put them in the PC wrapped in foil at 15psi for 1 hour. I took them out of the PC and every jar had a small pool of water, I am assuming it is from only letting them dry for 3hours or I didn’t wrap the foil tight enough?? I ignored the pools of water and waited till the next morning to innoc them; I ended up inoculating every jar twice because I realized I only put 1cc in all 12 jars lol. The temp of the room for the first ten days was between 68-70 degrees and then picked up to 76 and is when I started to see growth. In those ten days the pools of water got smaller and as of now none of my quart jars have any contamination. I didn’t turn on the a/c and just let the natural temp do its thing. I think I got extremely lucky and can’t wait till jars are fully colonized.
I have learned a lot from this thread and hope it encourages more people to give it a try.

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Great place to start man, very similar to what I do. This has been one of the better threads on RIU. The op "matt" is great at accepting advice while finding his path which makes this a very interesting read. Everyone has the common goal of matts success which is freaking awesome. This is my happy place. Good people here!!

yeah i do like how this thread is coming along myself...definatly no hostility and no..my way or highway attitudes...verry open minded people and thats what makes for a good thread.

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Great place to start man, very similar to what I do. This has been one of the better threads on RIU. The op "matt" is great at accepting advice while finding his path which makes this a very interesting read. Everyone has the common goal of matts success which is freaking awesome. This is my happy place. Good people here!!

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NO, Disneyland it the happy place, in fact it is THE happiest place on earth.

RetiredMatthebrute said:

yeah i do like how this thread is coming along myself...definatly no hostility and no..my way or highway attitudes...verry open minded people and thats what makes for a good thread.

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That is because I am not posting much here.

canndo said:

That is because I am not posting much here.

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according to ganjapussy this would be true. lmao.

canndo said:

That is because I am not posting much here.

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you have good suggestions and you have your opinions on thigs which you belive in strongly....nothing wrong with that man...you dont start name calling and acting a fool when people dissagree with you.

your fine man...im glad you have been along for this adventure as you have offered alot of sound advice. you convinced me to go with grain and im haveing amazing results with incubating and G2G transfers....now i need to get the second, third and fourth stage down HAHA..

more green mold popping up in my pans...not verry happy but what are ya gonna do...this first runmay end up being a washout.

made my spore prints...they came out well i think...verry small because the caps are small but nice and dark, wrapped em up in foil and they are ready to possibly be used later on.

I agree. I saw only good stuff.

JD

It is friday, I have my 1926 padron toro, I have my 12 year old scotch and I am teasing. except for the PF tek is the devil's tool part.

What PF Tek was was a revolution...circa 1990 or so. :0)

Amateur mycology has surpassed it.

It is still warmly thought of, and Billy McPherson AKA Psylocybe Fanaticus
passed recently and was very warmly remembered.

Take care,

JD

PF tek is awesome if your growing in a contaminated environment, or want spore prints from invitro fruits tho.

Javadog said:

What PF Tek was was a revolution...circa 1990 or so. :0)

Amateur mycology has surpassed it.

It is still warmly thought of, and Billy McPherson AKA Psylocybe Fanaticus
passed recently and was very warmly remembered.

Take care,

JD

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RIP B. McPherson, a genius, no doubt at all, he brought insight to millions and MADE millions except for that little problem with the law.