My first grow, suggestions?
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upinthesticks
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Personal preference I think between chem and organic - depends on whats important to you.
I started my first few grows with fox farm soil and nutes. Then switched to roots organic soil and nutes (grow, bloom, trinity, hp2). Much, much happier with the latter. The soil is a better (and seems more consistent), without needing extra perlite like with fox farm. I dont have enough experience with either to say with certainty one is better than other - but I will not be going back to fox farms anything. Im a pretty new grower - Im sure others will have more helpful insight.
I started my first few grows with fox farm soil and nutes. Then switched to roots organic soil and nutes (grow, bloom, trinity, hp2). Much, much happier with the latter. The soil is a better (and seems more consistent), without needing extra perlite like with fox farm. I dont have enough experience with either to say with certainty one is better than other - but I will not be going back to fox farms anything. Im a pretty new grower - Im sure others will have more helpful insight.
Haha thank you! My light is a 280w, and the big one is about 2 feet, from your experience how much do you think it'll yield?
So fox farm isn't that good basically?
potpimp
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I don't have the slightest idea.
Depends on genetics, growing conditions, and mostly your skills.
Richard Drysift
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Synthetic nutes force feed your plants dissolved salts; organic soil feeds your plants naturally through microbial activity. Either way will produce your desired result but keep in mind whatever you give your plants will be deposited into their flesh eventually. If you stay organic you'll need to keep transplanting to fresh soil and give clean water to keep the soil highly active. Nutrients work well if used properly but that means in soil they only need it at very low strength during late veg into bloom. Give straight water in between & tap water is fine. You'll need to stop giving nutes for the final 10-14 days to flush all the salts from your mix whereas in organic soil you just water them as normal until harvest.
714steadyeddie
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Don't confuse the kid with your organic mumbo jumbo.
OP learn the basics of growing first even if it's in fox farm. Organics is a compeletly different beast, you'll be in way over your head.
I personally grow in coco coir. There are many ways to grow its all about what you are working at home space wise / money wise
Richard Drysift
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Giving your plants water is mumbo jumbo? It doesn't get any simpler or cheaper than growing a plant in a pot full of dirt. I agree you've got to find the way that works for you and it helps to get other opinions so to avoid making the same mistakes we all make when starting out. There's a learning curve regardless of your methods of growing and there are stark differences between methods and obviously everyone has their preference but I never put down those who use bottled nutes because I used to be one. I have grown DWC, coco, aeroponic sprayers and flood & drain to find it's much easier, cheaper, and less effort to get awesome results in soil. Uses less water too; but don't take my word for it try these out yourself & find what's best for your situation.
You never mention that in coco you'll need to ph your water & mix nutes proper ppms to avoid burn or absorption issues. Then there's all those trips to the hydro store to buy more shit the guy in there says you need which you don't. Not saying coco isn't a good hydroponic medium to grow in its just not exactly set and forget either. Unlike organic soil which you simply water as needed. Hope that doesn't confuse anyone
You never mention that in coco you'll need to ph your water & mix nutes proper ppms to avoid burn or absorption issues. Then there's all those trips to the hydro store to buy more shit the guy in there says you need which you don't. Not saying coco isn't a good hydroponic medium to grow in its just not exactly set and forget either. Unlike organic soil which you simply water as needed. Hope that doesn't confuse anyone
714steadyeddie
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Sure maintaining the organic soil is easy, but making the organic soil for a noob? Sounds like a daunting task.
Never said coco was easier, just stating what I grow in.
I'm sure I'll dabble in the organics side eventually, but I think every noob should try something simpler in the beginning. Learn the basics of how to take care of a plant.
I know you're just trying to help out and my bad if I came off sounding like as ass. We are here to share and help eachother
OP let us know what's up with your grow!
Richard Drysift
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No not at all I knew what you meant; you are right and I totally agree. That's why I suggest using a good quality bagged soil formulated for mj like ocean forest or roots organic to begin with and then saving the nutes until they are really needed. Building a soil is the advanced class but anyone can use premixed soil & then just add nutes as they are needed. No it's not truly organic but that's how you start; if you keep on recycling your mix after each harvest and learn how to amend the soil you'll have a water only super soil eventually.
Cyrus420
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I'm doing well myself using basic organic soils bought from my local super store. Just using water and minimal nutrients as long as my plant is green I'm not going to do anything and your plants look wonderful and green I wouldn't change a thing to what you're doing unless your plant starts to look stressed.
sorry I just now saw all these comments, the only thing I've been giving my plants is water from my bathroom, I also have been using fox farm ocean forest soil. I read that you said I should be changing the soil, I don't want to mess up while changing it and everything gets ruined so do I have to change the soil or is it optional? With this grow I kinda just wanted the plants to think they're outside growing all natural. Also some of the leaves are beginning to change colors into a brownish color, does this mean they're budding now or are they stressed? They still look nice tho, I can provide pics if you guys want to see them, thanks