My first hydroponic white widow grow

Today i had to get in there when the lights went off to spray them down with organocide. I spray them with that once a week and so far besides an aphid or two spotted my garden has been clear of any bugs. Is it because of the organocide, maybe but i also keep the room cleaned and vacuumed and whatnot once a week.

But, while i was in there i had to take the risk and a snapped a few quick pics with the lights off. they are looking so plump and juicy right now, im loving it. As of right now its looking like i have 14 huge colas that are starting and thankfully the growing up seems to have slowed down drastically and the plumping up has definitly speeded up.

This week ive bumped up my nutes from half strength to 3/4 of the recommended strength ( General hydro nutes) with a bloom enhancer. ( cant remember the name of it at this moment)

Oh, and my clones, so a week later, they are pretty much shot. Im almost thinking its just easier to grow from seed and send right to flowering than fucking around with the damn clones, but, because i keep the humidity level around 50 - 60 in there, the clones dry out so quickly, and i had turned the fan off on the veg side to help keep it more humid, but then i started seeing fruit flies buzzing around, so i quickly sprayed the plants and turned the fan back on and the fan took away the few little flies i saw, but dried out the clones. So, ive moved the clones now and im gonna try again. They are in a better spot where they shouldnt dry out.

amature enthusiast said:

Today i had to get in there when the lights went off to spray them down with organocide. I spray them with that once a week and so far besides an aphid or two spotted my garden has been clear of any bugs. Is it because of the organocide, maybe but i also keep the room cleaned and vacuumed and whatnot once a week.

But, while i was in there i had to take the risk and a snapped a few quick pics with the lights off. they are looking so plump and juicy right now, im loving it. As of right now its looking like i have 14 huge colas that are starting and thankfully the growing up seems to have slowed down drastically and the plumping up has definitly speeded up.

This week ive bumped up my nutes from half strength to 3/4 of the recommended strength ( General hydro nutes) with a bloom enhancer. ( cant remember the name of it at this moment)

Oh, and my clones, so a week later, they are pretty much shot. Im almost thinking its just easier to grow from seed and send right to flowering than fucking around with the damn clones, but, because i keep the humidity level around 50 - 60 in there, the clones dry out so quickly, and i had turned the fan off on the veg side to help keep it more humid, but then i started seeing fruit flies buzzing around, so i quickly sprayed the plants and turned the fan back on and the fan took away the few little flies i saw, but dried out the clones. So, ive moved the clones now and im gonna try again. They are in a better spot where they shouldnt dry out.

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Hey, Looks Good!
I'm growing some white widow also. How high up does the water get when you flood your tray? How many times and for how long do you flood for?

Stop by my journal and tell me what you think.

Thanks

Maybe its just in my mind, but what do you think, they look even bigger than yesterday!! If its starting to get stinky in there i can hardly even tell the carbon filter works extremely well. And, i pretty much took a gamble, cause im venting it into the attic which then has its own vent in the attic and the attic still smells like attic only. Not even a hint of nuggs. perfect!

They are just looking so freakin good right now, i am so happy. If you look on the leaves and see that kind of glossy dots on it, thats from the organocide i just sprayed on yesterday. It does that, hope its not too bad for it. I figure getting bugs on my buds would be much worse.

Also, i think im gonna scratch the mothers. Ive come up with a better plan. The mothers are kinda of a pain in the ass and just take up time and nutes and energy to keep them alive, and the clones are failing anyway. So, what im gonna do is, Ive got about a month left of flowering for these white widows now, ive still got 15 seeds left and its really not hard to get more and i think, especially since my clones are dying, that i like it from seed better. If i start the seeds now, in a month when i harvest ill have new plants to go right over into flowering again, and just keep that cycle, this way ill have a month inbetween grows to not have to worry about anything on my veg side, and i think ill save a lot of time and money. Maybe one day when i feel like throwing a couple hundered bucks on a cloning machine ill do that, but spending about 50 bucks a year on some seeds seems better than keeping the mothers alive.

So, I think the mothers are gonna get trashed, ive taken some new clones off of them and im gonna see if i can keep them alive this time, but im also gonna start a new batch of seeds, 6 seeds im thinking.

The White hairs look so freakin plump and juicy, I seriously stand there for hours just staring completely amazed! Im lovin it!

snow4aaron said:

Hey, Looks Good!
I'm growing some white widow also. How high up does the water get when you flood your tray? How many times and for how long do you flood for?

Stop by my journal and tell me what you think.

Thanks

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Your grow looks awesome, im gonna stop by over there right now, but my tray gets flooded 5 times a day for a 15 minutes and its fills the tray up about 4 , 5 inches, i make sure that the rockwool that the plant is in ( its in rockwool, then sitting in the clay pellets) so its pretty much floods the rockwool half way up the rock wool, maybe a little more. Basically i completely submerge the roots 5 times a day for 15 minutes. Any other questions please ask

few more weeks and these babies are gonna be ready.

Harvest is so close now i cant wait! Ive had the clones under 18 hours of light.....24 hours for the first 3 days on the second batch. So im obviously doing that wrong, but also, i keep it so dry in there, 50 - 60 percent humidity, so its alway dried out by the time i get to spray them down again. Dried out too much i think and it just keeps killing them. One of the pictures there is of the only surviving clone out of about 20 attempts, and i think it got a little nutrient burn on the tips but it seems to be doing fine. But i havent given up on cloning yet. Im gonna give it another try here once i get my ass in gear and go make some cuts. I need to figure out a good way to keep them moist more often. When im gone for 8 hours and come back and they are completely dry thats not good. The main reason i dont mind growing from seeds and weeding out the males is because once i get this first harvest ill have plenty of time before ill run out, plenty of time to take my time with the next grow.

Hmm...I wonder if its too late to transplant the mothers into soil. It would make life much easier.

In the pictures the 42 inch plant with the buds on it, thats been in flowering for starting on the 7th week. The younger plant which is 46 inches tall is the plant that was in veg for 6 weeks and has been in flowering for the start of the 5th week. It surged past the other two plants that were in flowering two weeks before it.

excellent job thus far. Did you by chance watch the guy who painted himself in green on youtube? It's a very similiar setup. I really want to do exactly what you are doing. However, my current situation will not allow me muchy room and temps are an issue. I'm using that same carbon filter, it does work pretty damn awesome.
I think your idea of moving the mothers to soil is good.
Why dont you get your clones out of that room an into a windowsill or a room with indirect sunlight. I've never heard of people having this much trouble getting their clones to grow legs

ryanadams said:

excellent job thus far. Did you by chance watch the guy who painted himself in green on youtube? It's a very similiar setup. I really want to do exactly what you are doing. However, my current situation will not allow me muchy room and temps are an issue. I'm using that same carbon filter, it does work pretty damn awesome.
I think your idea of moving the mothers to soil is good.
Why dont you get your clones out of that room an into a windowsill or a room with indirect sunlight. I've never heard of people having this much trouble getting their clones to grow legs

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LOL! Yep, Mr. green, i love him. His the one who showed me how easy this is! I wanted to pick something that i could see with my own eyes worked and just copied it exactly. Now that i see how it all works i can change some things up from the way he did it. Which i have already and probably will some more. Including putting the mothers into soil. If i dont just get rid of them completely and start from scratch. The problem is, like you dont have the ability to set up a room like this, i dont have the ability to do anything outside of this little room. Ive thought about it believe me and i cant find any decent spots that no one would be able to stumle on.

I wonder if putting a wet soggy sponge in with the clones will help it to stop drying out so fast? cause thats my only problem i know it. Theres periods of about 8 to 10 hours when i cant get in there to spray it down, either working or sleeping. And i refuse to bring the humdity up when that puts the buds at risk so my only option is to find a way to keep them moist at all times while staying in that room and not messing with the humidity level. Im sure ill figure something out eventually......

Ok so its saturday night, im planning on harvesting next sunday. I just put in a fresh rez of full strength nutes and wednesday im switching over to PHed water.

I was a little concerned that people arnt getting a good feel for just how big these buds are so i think a regular size beer bottle should do the trick. Ive got 7 colas the same size as this and many many smaller ones

Even with the loupe im still having some trouble seeing the heads of the trics. But they all seem to still be glistening in the light so im hoping that means they are not clouding up yet. Although maybe about 20 percent of the plants white hairs are starting to brown. Is that normal for that to start happening. Especially the browning of the hairs lower on the plant first? I would love to get my light down lower to the lower buds in the canopy, but the tips of my main colas are 16 inches from the HPS lamp so it would not be possible to lower it anymore. It is what it is.

Im also noticing the plant thats 2 weeks behind on flowering is packing on resin much quicker than the other 2 plants.

Anyway, If these things blow up even more than they already are in the next week im going to be amazed!

Looks awesome! I would maybe flush them for an entire week... just a suggestion.

Iron Lion Zion said:

Looks awesome! I would maybe flush them for an entire week... just a suggestion.

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Really?? Ive heard you should flush for 3 to 5 days, i figured id just go right in the middle, 4 days.

WEll, i got a ton of shit done today. I got the water prepared to go to flush the plants for the next week. 4 new seeds germinated and have been transplanted into rockwool. Now just waiting for them to pop up. And theres still 2 seeds that havent cracked yet. I got my mothers chopped down nicely and ive got attempt 4 at cloning going on. Changed a few things up. crossing my fingers. and ive got them over in the flowering side, far under the canopy. Ill hopefully be able to take them out of there after a week and hopefully by that point they will have rooted. Got some pics as soon as the lights went out today.

These are the mothers and the sole surviving clone. This is the mothers before i just chopped them up so they shortened up a little bit which is what i wanted cause i wanted to lower the light.

Hey Bro, Nice Grow.

When I move out of this hell hole where my plants were stolen, I'm going to try the same setup.

But Besides that.

I think if you put a little humidity dome of some sort over your clones you would have alot more chances of survival.

Wether it be a diced up 2L bottle of soda or just anything.

If you do that it should put your clone success rate up to like 90%

Um I want to say by the size of your buds, you still have a few weeks left. not just one week.

I don't evan see any brown hairs yet, your ladys still have alot of weight to put on.

seejay said:

Hey Bro, Nice Grow.

When I move out of this hell hole where my plants were stolen, I'm going to try the same setup.

But Besides that.

I think if you put a little humidity dome of some sort over your clones you would have alot more chances of survival.

Wether it be a diced up 2L bottle of soda or just anything.

If you do that it should put your clone success rate up to like 90%

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I do have a humidity dome and tray. I was making two main mistakes. i was letting the leaves droop into the water and they would rot and kill the plant. Now im going to make sure i cut them and hold them up before that happens. And also im going to make sure that the tray doesnt dry out. If i have to keep a 1/4 inch of water in there thats what im gonna do, it will dry out by the time i check on it anyway. So, im definitely more hopefull this time. I learned a little more about it. I still want to switch the mothers over to dirt. Im hoping that wont be too much of a problem transition from rockwoool and clay to dirt. only one way to find out!

seejay said:

Um I want to say by the size of your buds, you still have a few weeks left. not just one week.

Looks like those ladys could go 2 - 3 more weeks and put on alot more weight.

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I was thinking that too, but i also see that each week they get much bigger . Either way, because i just found out that i should flush for a week or more, that sunday date is gonna get pushed back, at least a week or so, but im definitely gonna be watching the trics closely. Im getting worried cause the white hairs seem to be going brown more and more. about 30 percent of the plants, and its worse lower on the plant than on the top of the plant. But, the trics are still crystal clear. So, i dont know....Is that bad that the hairs seem to be changing early? or is that not early at all?

amature enthusiast said:

I do have a humidity dome and tray. I was making two main mistakes. i was letting the leaves droop into the water and they would rot and kill the plant. Now im going to make sure i cut them and hold them up before that happens. And also im going to make sure that the tray doesnt dry out. If i have to keep a 1/4 inch of water in there thats what im gonna do, it will dry out by the time i check on it anyway. So, im definitely more hopefull this time. I learned a little more about it. I still want to switch the mothers over to dirt. Im hoping that wont be too much of a problem transition from rockwoool and clay to dirt. only one way to find out!

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Cool well thats the only way to learn is to do it.

But how does the tray dry out with a Dome on it? The Dome retains the water inside.

And for the transplant I wouldn't suggest trying to take it out of the rockwool. But you can take it out of the clay pellets, and cut most of the roots right outside the rockwool.

amature enthusiast said:

I was thinking that too, but i also see that each week they get much bigger . Either way, because i just found out that i should flush for a week or more, that sunday date is gonna get pushed back, at least a week or so, but im definitely gonna be watching the trics closely. Im getting worried cause the white hairs seem to be going brown more and more. about 30 percent of the plants, and its worse lower on the plant than on the top of the plant. But, the trics are still crystal clear. So, i dont know....Is that bad that the hairs seem to be changing early? or is that not early at all?

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Thats normal. Don't worry about it. By your pics you are still good to keep going for another couple of weeks.

My 1st grow, nyd x ak47 at i think week 6 in soil, looked like your buds do. Will attach a picture in a few minutes if I can find it. I used a water bottle to show the size.

seejay said:

Thats normal. Don't worry about it. By your pics you are still good to keep going for another couple of weeks.

My 1st grow, nyd x ak47 at i think week 6 in soil, looked like your buds do. Will attach a picture in a few minutes if I can find it. I used a water bottle to show the size.

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Firstt two pictures were taken on 2/27
Third Picture on 3/1
4th on 3/14 3 days before I cut it.