My highest reccomendation for this inexpensive unit,ZERO SMELL & cheap.

wyteboi said:

if it worked without the ozone then your prefilters must be enough for you. So you dont even need ozone then ? how often do u have to replace the carbon paper?
I guess that would work for a Very small closet grow ??


Now that is a very good point! and i finally decided that a passive outake would be the only way to go..........so i redid my setup again , this time with the air pushing into the clean room (6") and i built a damper that will only open when the room gets full and i didn't realize at the time that the clean room would fill up and push itself out so QUICK that it didnt work, and thats with only 200 cfm's - the smaller outake than intake so i have it slowed down as much as u possibly can and its still too fast................. That ozone generator is made to sit IN the room with the odor...... If i just use the ozone gen AS a fan then it WILL work but we are talkin like 5 or 10 cfm's (not enough to grow) like i said i tried EVERYTHING before i spent more money for no reason....so i finally got a 40lb carbon can and boy was i wrong about carbon , that shit really works ! but its not workin for the other guy so i am tryin to help him figure it out.......
i am just sayin he shouldnt have started a thread like this without even responding. just not good manners........... no big deal though we all LOVE what we do

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no need for a damper.... I used a pvc pipe with holes in it and wrapped around that filter it works great. I have no idea why you were having issues with this.... I've done this for sub $1000 grow rooms up to $10,000 grow rooms that I have designed for me and several friends. That also includes all shapes and sizes.


-potlike

this is how i am currently running it with ZERO smell .......so far..... still not sure how long the carbon is gonna last with heavy odors?


i am doing the same with the cool tubes to eliminate heat.....and then upgrading the fan i got but thats it. So i guess i got the cheapest ozone generator on the net . i'll take 75 for it if someone wants it.

Is this the way u have yours growinman?


if so where is your fan? and yes if u are doing it that way then your right on the humidity fillin up your can too quickly.

wyteboi said:

Is this the way u have yours growinman?
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if so where is your fan? and yes if u are doing it that way then your right on the humidity fillin up your can too quickly.

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....yes, basically. The ac's exhaust is Y'd into the 6" run that goes through there---so when it's not running it still pulls air from the room up high. The end doesn't end like you have it going to the filter. It just dumps into that boxfrom up high and blows down. My can50 sits in there on it's own with another 6" fan on top and ducted back out the top. I was having it just dump into the box so the ozone could react with it, then filtered and exhausted........
(sorry, I dont know how you guys draw on here like that)

The filter worked great for smell 100%! <----then I had to start filtering the ac exhaust too, which is where all of the problems started. I am going to go out there in a bit and retry it again like potlike said. I may just have leaks..? I really wanted the ozone generator to be the answer.....do away with the filters. Until I can come up with something else I am just going to have to get another big filter and then just pull everything through it. Thanks for the link, wyteboi! I'd use that if I had the time to wait..... Our shop has them for $220 for a 16"x40"........a bit pricey, but that's a big filter for a 7'x12' room.......

I just wish I knew something else to do with the ac's exhaust........

Thanks again you guys!!
gman

SORRY PANHEAD!! I apologize for hijacking your thread.......but dont know how else to do this.....and maybe it will help someone else on this subject??

.....but that's my set-up. Top view. The exhaust box in the empty shed is 4' high, 4' wide, and actually 9' long---the width of shed. It is 6'' ducted from the grow room to the other shed with a 6" 400cfm fan pulling from the grow to the box(fans in box). The uv3nair1000 is in the box too, on a shelf about 3' up in a corner. There's a small fan circulating the air in the box on the floor. In the middle of the box and on the floor too sits a Can50 with a fan on top of it and ducted straight up and out into the shed itself, which isn't sealed at all.

So, according to potlike, if I understand correctly, I can take the fan off of the filter and just duct it straight up/out passively.<----the box is sealed. I do NOT understand why the fan cant be at the end of the ducting from the grow room. I need to get in there and put it back in the grow area and have it push the air to the box......? Okay. But ALSO, I need the fan to suck from at least the point of the Y where the ac taps in or it'll back up and freeze like it did this summer when I tried to filter it.....has to be 'free flow.'<---or suck....

If I just had an answer for the ac exhaust all would be fine...... I 'd just filter the air from the grow---it'd be 100% contained, except the ac. This is why I did both, ozone and filter. I figured after reading a bit that ozone was my answer all together, no more filters.......RH not a concern. I used to dump right in the room to the left of the grow room, with the ballasts etc.......then the ac really kicked in this summer and, well, here I am.

The uvo3nair 1000 cost me $220. I cant even smell ozone unless I stick my head in the box!<----but it is filtered out, too....... I wishing I would have got the CAP one you guys reffer to and have pictured......thier even cheaper and I'd get one of those too if it'd work.......

growinman said:

I may just have leaks..?

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that was another problem i had with ozone ....... the leaks. Thats why i stressed it has to be SEALED.

growinman said:

Thanks for the link, wyteboi! I'd use that if I had the time to wait..... Our shop has them for $220 for a 16"x40"........a bit pricey, but that's a big filter for a 7'x12' room.......

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I ordered my filter at around noon and it was at my door the NEXT DAY! im not bullshitin i got the ozone gen from them too (120 w/shipping) and it came in 2 days. so they are VERY fast (the can was 130 w/shipping)
well on another note ur's for 220 is almost twice the size of mine. so your tryin to make this a competition huh....?
title for title?
....just kiddin

growinman said:

I just wish I knew something else to do with the ac's exhaust........

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well my a/c hangs out the window and it smells "green" when your right by it, but it dissipates quickly ...... so i believe a simple carbon pre-filter will work for that?(just like potlike was sayin, without the ozone)
so is your a/c exhaust separate from your grow room exhaust? sorry i dont do very well with words ... i had a hard time understanding your setup..................

Why cant u just run the a/c exahuast separate , with no fan? You say that thing backs up ? thats fuckin nutts for THAT price....geeez. Ok if u cant run the a/c without a fan pulling it, then why not just use a tiny "booster" inline fan (separate from big fan)...... that will help with the smell coming through the a/c cause you would be suckin up all the air with that 400 cfm fan u have. The humidity issue will still be a problem but u could divide your dump room in half and let all the a/c air go into room with ozone and the big fan/grow room air go to the carbon.........?
OR, how bout this :


(what is RH?) ..uh...relitive humidity?

wyteboi said:

that was another problem i had with ozone ....... the leaks. Thats why i stressed it has to be SEALED.



I ordered my filter at around noon and it was at my door the NEXT DAY! im not bullshitin i got the ozone gen from them too (120 w/shipping) and it came in 2 days. so they are VERY fast (the can was 130 w/shipping)
well on another note ur's for 220 is almost twice the size of mine. so your tryin to make this a competition huh....?
title for title?
....just kiddin


well my a/c hangs out the window and it smells "green" when your right by it, but it dissipates quickly ...... so i believe a simple carbon pre-filter will work for that?(just like potlike was sayin, without the ozone)
so is your a/c exhaust separate from your grow room exhaust? sorry i dont do very well with words ... i had a hard time understanding your setup..................

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Haha, title for title. My ac is portable and has the hose exhaust. It STINKS, nothing 'green' about it---SKUNKS!!! First thing I did was got one of those 'Organic Air' carbon fiber filter for $90 and put it on the exhaust hose, even adding a dedicated duct-booster fan. Well, they dont have the power to push through anything, really.....they even say to keep the hose as straight and with least bends as possible. So yeah, mine seized to function properly, haha---it completely died, froze, blows warm air. So I got the dual hose unit the hydro shops sell. Well, the fricken compressor isn't sealed and the exhaust still smells........even though the one brings in fresh air from outside and never 'contacts' the room's air, then exausts outside. The condensation on the compressor is the problem here, according to manufacturer. So yeah again, now it Y's into the main 6" exhaust.
I am waiting on a call atm. I was just out there resealing everything with silicone and was going to pull the one fan in the box that sits on the filter out of there and let it be passive with the pushing of the 400cfm going at 25%..........make sure on the leaks....


I took pics of the box and need to upload them........will send you and potlike a link to them, or anybody think I am okay here????


panhead is going to want my head on a chopping block after all of this......should have started another thread......

gman

wyteboi said:

Why cant u just run the a/c exahuast separate , with no fan? You say that thing backs up ? thats fuckin nutts for THAT price....geeez. Ok if u cant run the a/c without a fan pulling it, then why not just use a tiny "booster" inline fan (separate from big fan)...... that will help with the smell coming through the a/c cause you would be suckin up all the air with that 400 cfm fan u have. The humidity issue will still be a problem but u could divide your dump room in half and let all the a/c air go into room with ozone and the big fan/grow room air go to the carbon.........?
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(what is RH?) ..uh...relitive humidity?

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<----Yep RH = relative humidity

Just like your pic!! Except the ac's exhaust Y's into the 6" ducting...
I see what your saying......and yes, that fan pulls.......
Split the box? Run ac to one half and ozoned and the other half through the can 50....through two different ducts? Yes<---need more ducting---I am 20+ miles from town, haha........

panhead said:

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Its pretty simple to put in a duct,the end of the duct that the exhaust fan will mount to you simply put the generator in the duct before mounting the fan on the end of the duct.

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Doesn't this work?? I could just put one of those CAP units in the duct at the start of the run.......exhaust it straight out, after mixing screens, etc.....no filter, dump rooms, etc.......
This is what had me get this thing in the first place, but I did get the uvo3nair1000----hydro-shop guy said it's better(yeah, about $100 better) and could run it in the duct the same........

But it didn't work....... Does anybody else do this with success?? This is why I moved the fan/filter out of the grow room originally. It's supposed to work.

I do have the grow temporarily 100% smell contained......via, wyteboi's method in the last diagram....... And I am finally able to spend some time on this on here, catch up what I didn't read......

gman

what do you think about putting one of these right by my exhaust into my basement? http://cgi.ebay.com/Refrigerator-Fr...FI%2BDDSIC&otn=12&po=LVI&ps=54#ht_3108wt_1165

IVkingXX said:

what do you think about putting one of these right by my exhaust into my basement? http://cgi.ebay.com/Refrigerator-Fr...FI%2BDDSIC&otn=12&po=LVI&ps=54#ht_3108wt_1165

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i doubt that is strong enough for one real stinky plant especially if you have air movin fast in that duct. In fact it wont help much at all "inline" unless u have like a 10cfm fan. here is a lil bit better one :
http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/cap-oznjr-ozone-generator-up-to-1000-cubic-ft-p-2066.html

its good for a couple plants maybe............UV ozone is just a very complicated method of getting rid of odors.... i am faithful on carbon filters now
very easy and cheap way to REALLY get rid of the shit with no harmful effects on babies

wb

growinman said:

Doesn't this work?? I could just put one of those CAP units in the duct at the start of the run.......exhaust it straight out, after mixing screens, etc.....no filter, dump rooms, etc.......
This is what had me get this thing in the first place, but I did get the uvo3nair1000----hydro-shop guy said it's better(yeah, about $100 better) and could run it in the duct the same........

But it didn't work....... Does anybody else do this with success?? This is why I moved the fan/filter out of the grow room originally. It's supposed to work.

I do have the grow temporarily 100% smell contained......via, wyteboi's method in the last diagram....... And I am finally able to spend some time on this on here, catch up what I didn't read......

gman

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still havin probs gman ? carbon is the only way to go, i would honestly say get rid of the ozone .... it can work but is way to complicated to figure out.
hmmm ... maybe a carbon sock for your a/c
well no that will clog just as fast..... yea u have to keep the humidity away from the carbon but still use the carbon ... confusing but u can figure it out.

Ozone requires a certain amount of contact time with odors to be effective. If you are using it in your duct you will need to build a box where the air become turbulent and mixes with the ozone. I have an Ozone-1 I use for supplemental control and it works well.

PzychoSixx said:

How long does the bulb last and you said it's 100% effective?
Also is it harmful for your health?

Do you think the smaller junior version would be decent for a 2 plant stealth pc grow?
http://www.nehydro.net/index.php?ma...id=255&zenid=94b4e40d89dfcde0862a146e0cb970d1

Or would it be best to go with the OZN-1?

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I had an ozone JR before I got the Ozone 1 and the JR really sucks to be honest. It broke after about 3mo and there is no bulb to replace. The Ozone-1 is safe if you run it on a timer or only when you are out of the room.

Ozone is definitely 100% effective if used properly. I recently picked up an 8" duct unit from Uvonair and the thing is awesome. Cranks out some ozone and no more replacing carbon filters!

NewGrowth said:

I had an ozone JR before I got the Ozone 1 and the JR really sucks to be honest. It broke after about 3mo and there is no bulb to replace. The Ozone-1 is safe if you run it on a timer or only when you are out of the room.

Ozone is definitely 100% effective if used properly. I recently picked up an 8" duct unit from Uvonair and the thing is awesome. Cranks out some ozone and no more replacing carbon filters!

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Can you please explain how you use the ozone 1?
Are your odors "heavy" ?
I tried almost everything with that thing...... i built a dump room so the ozone could sit with the odor for awhile but i can only let it sit so long before the grow gets hot and needs to be cleared...... so how can this be done?
There is ALOT of info on the net that is fucked and maybe you could help clear this up?

sorry guys but im a complete noob when it comes to ozone generators. how do i use this?

install inside 6" pvc pipe inline with your exhuaust
i think i am going to utilize this also i looked at a unit that had an 8 or 10 inch metal pipe 2 feet long with a corona generator that is round like a cool tube-
on piece of screen in and one out then with the ends dipped in liquid rubber and the transformer mounted on the bottom

i figured i could build that pretty easy
but this unit is nice also- they've got it at the local hangout

i like the fact it uses abulb and not a lightning storm in a bottle

wait so i just leave it in my exhaust and there's gonna be no odor?

oxygen atoms ZAP the odor atoms to another dimension oh yeah