my mite problem is getting worse...

ive been battling a mite infestation but it seems to just be getting worse on some of my plants, I used neem twice because im in flower so I don't want to keep using it but I still treat every other day with spinosad but it just isn't working, im gonna try using peppers boiled in water but if anyone has any suggestions that would be great I really need some help.

Continue with the neem and give the peppers a try. It doesn't look that bad though.

BBbubblegum said:

Continue with the neem and give the peppers a try. It doesn't look that bad though.

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how much longer do you think I can use the neem for? this is about how far along my plants are some are a little further some a little behind I think I have at least 30 days left in flower for the first ones, and also when I spray flowering plants do I need to make sure no liquid touches the buds or do I need to hit the buds too?

i would recommend zero tolerance or if you are still in veg or anywhere b/w week 1 & week 3 of flowering use a garden insectide with any active ingredient with "thrin" on the end. i use the kind that you connect to garden hoses. Drench the hell out of the plant...there's also a waxy/sticky type of product that you can use on the main stem to keep pest from climbing up the lenght of the plant. i forget what its called but it works good...its real sticky and anything that tries to climb up a plant will just get stuck...this would be great to combat spider mites since they call to climb the length of plants.

dante76 said:

i would recommend zero tolerance or if you are still in veg or anywhere b/w week 1 & week 3 of flowering use a garden insectide with any active ingredient with "thrin" on the end. i use the kind that you connect to garden hoses. Drench the hell out of the plant...there's also a waxy/sticky type of product that you can use on the main stem to keep pest from climbing up the lenght of the plant. i forget what its called but it works good...its real sticky and anything that tries to climb up a plant will just get stuck...this would be great to combat spider mites since they call to climb the length of plants.

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thanks for all the advice ill look for any sort of "thrin" at the hydro store and those sticky things for the stem, and ill have to stick with drenching with spray bottles cause my waters hard as a rock lol.

Might wanna look into buying some pirate bugs

spartacus420 said:

Might wanna look into buying some pirate bugs

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i was thnking about that and was gonna just get some lady bugs for now but i feel like this late into flower it wouldnt be very effective, so thats definately something im gonna try and implement at the beggining of the next grow.

Oh man, that is really bad, sorry, but there is no hope if you are into late flower.
Cut your losses and good luck decontaminating the room.

So I have people telling me its not that bad and people saying its really bad.... Well I'm at a total loss of what to do is it bad??? I thought it was but the first post said it wasn't? Do you guys have experience battling this problem outside? I just really have no idea what to do at this point with all this conflicting info

Wash off your plants with a mite solution, Then shake off all the excess water and look down in the buds too and make sure you get that water out too so your plants dont get moldy. Then place a fan blowing on them to make sure you dry them out as fast as possible. You will never be able to get them all but this is better than smoking dead carcasses, poop, spider webs, and eggs. This is the best thing you can do. You run the risk of killing your plants with neem oil if you use too much. Plants get rained on anyway, as long as you shake off the water once you wash them off you'll be fine. If you don't have a fan for outside, wash em off on a windy day.

Situation420 said:

Wash off your plants with a mite solution, Then shake off all the excess water and look down in the buds too and make sure you get that water out too so your plants dont get moldy. Then place a fan blowing on them to make sure you dry them out as fast as possible. You will never be able to get them all but this is better than smoking dead carcasses, poop, spider webs, and eggs. This is the best thing you can do. You run the risk of killing your plants with neem oil if you use too much. Plants get rained on anyway, as long as you shake off the water once you wash them off you'll be fine. If you don't have a fan for outside, wash em off on a windy day.

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Thanks for the advice I'll shake em off and out a fan out there when I spray, also where live most days are 80-90 so they dry pretty fast anyways. Also at my local nursery they told me that the spray would leave a Taste in the buds nd to use eucalyptus oil, anyone heard of that? For now I'm just treating daily with spinosad and got a bunch of lady bugs

If you are two weeks to harvest, the chemicals you can use are limited. The plant will show obvious signs of mites after harvest BTW, so this reduces its value.

This rule is best - IF you cannot dip the ENTIRE plant into a bucket of solution to wash it - you are taking a big risk. When I get clones, or small plants - I dip them.
When a large plant is infected - you best get rid of it before it breeds more mites into your space.

Spraying is not going to cover all the areas. You need to attack not just mites, but their eggs.
I used a two stage bomb - Pyrithrin and Allude, which contains Piperonyl Butoxide . This stuff is strong, but if you use it in veg or early flower it is GTG.

The mites can smell the pyrithrin as an attack, and they will start laying eggs like crazy! after two to three days, you light off the second bomb - Allude/Piperopnyl butoxide.
They offer a third bomb, but I used it after the room was emptied.

Plants that you get in the future you might want to inoculate with Azamax, it has other stuff than neem oil. Any future mites will bite into the inoculated plant and hate it.
Mites seek out plants that are stressed, so you might have other room issues like temp and humidity.

my last harvest i was in the same boat. i took the plant outside and washed it down with a hose. i laid the plant on its side so i could spray the underside of the leaves. shook it off a bit and brought it inside with a fan blowing across it for faster drying. next day i applied neem oil. you can do it late in flower but you just have to take your time and try to keep as much spray as possible on the leaves. low pressure help to keep the spray on target. GL

From the pictures (especially #3) it doesn't look like mites. It looks like thrips from here.
Are these outside or inside?

dont panic. if youre budding already then no amount of insecticide is going to get rid of mites. been there, done that. there aint a spray,fogger or bomb made that will penetrate your flowers and youll just be poisoning your medicine.

clear them by hand every day. its a pain in the ass and depending on how much time you can devote to it you may just need to let a plant or two go in order to concentrate on the strongest healthiest ones. take your fingers and using light pressure rub the bastards off from base to tip...theyre tender little fuckers and youll have green mite blood on your fingers after every pass. do this for every fan leaf and then clean the leaves well with water. this is the only way i was able to save any part of my harvest.

after you harvest, burn everything you can afford to, hose down everything you cant and start over.

good luck.

Outside,,oh boy....at this stage use permethrin, Dr Doom or get a concentrate and mix your own. Spray all of the plant and dry it out by fan or in sunshine. This chem can be used up untill day b4 harvest, but I wouldn't in the last week myself.

Get some 4bid4f (ebay) but keep in mind this is a systematic product. I find it the best stuff out there for curing real bad problems. Mix as directed and lightly mist plant from the top only. This one will take some time to work but it will work and kills (by drying out the bugs and eggs) at all stages of mite life. I would use at veg and EARLY flower only - this is used on berries and other fruits and veggies along with shrubs used by pharm. companies on yew shrubs used in cancer drugs. It prevents re-infestations also.

Neem treated mites get tolerant fast. Always treat with one product, then 7 days later another and so forth.

If these are outdoor plants that means you have mite's all around you and that's the hardest one's to control. You will have to treat the entire area around you're garden and even then you have no guarantee they won't come back!

Indoor grows are by far easier to control.

good luck

Not one mention of mighty wash. Slack. Good luck.

CrazyBrennie said:

From the pictures (especially #3) it doesn't look like mites. It looks like thrips from here.

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I concur and was wondering who else might notice the apparent insect at hand .. Dead giveaway is the black droppings and the pocking is different with Thrips than mites and those of us who have dealt with both can easily tell that the OP has thrips verses spider mites .. Good eye and Rep+++

Mmm,,that's what I get for not looking at the photo's.

It does look like thrips and not mite's. BUT "thrin" and 4bid will kill them too....just keep the same altering death method for couple of weeks.

At this point I think I have both... I looked at a bunch of pics of each of them and what's on my plants resembles a little of both... Are the thrin products you guys are talking about organic? Cause I definitely would rather smoke some bugs then some chemicals