My New Grow Room What You Fellas Think ? With Pics.

scottish lad

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all rite fokes just finished last night still needs covered in Mylar but that is to come

setup :
400w hps
cooltube
250 inline fan
cold air intake fan and osculating fan for air movement .

had to build a false wall in the cupboard so the girl can still hang jackets up etc .my growroom size is 6f high 6f wide and 7 f depth .

what use fellas think any advise welcome ??????????
 

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Vento

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Hi ya Scotish Lad :)

Your not really gonna want to hear my advice ... but i will give it anyways :)

I'm Guessing you never washed that room down with bleech or disinfectent ? , Some people don't bother , But if that room has been used for shoe storage or been damp at any stage ... Expect mildew and molds when the temps and humidity start to rise .

You can still do it , But just make sure all your electrics are covered if you cant take them out .

The space looks pretty good depending on how many plants your looking at growing , With a 400 w hps i would think 4 max ? .

If your stuck for cash for mylar ... Go to wilkos or where ever ..and get a cheap tub of white paint ... it will do the same job untill you can sort out mylar

Ducting and airflow is vital , Try and take as many bends out of that ducting as possible ... a straight line flow of air can be hard to get ... But the less bends in your ducting the more efficient the airflow will be ( I know its difficult ... but really ...try and alter the ducting to make it more streamlined )

I dont see a Carbon filter ... whats in the box ?... fan ? ... If so why is it in the box hehe

I would recomend you set your room up ( FINISHED ) and test it for a few days to track temps befor even putting a plant in it , Get the climate dialed in so that you have full control over how hot and humid it is , Do it over a few days ( Hot and cold days ... we all know UK weather is a bitch ) get a feel for what times of day its best to have your lights running ( I use on at 6 pm off at midday to miss out the hot part of the day in veg ... and when i switch to flower it will be on at 7 pm off at 7am ) So check all your temps at diffrent times :)

I'm sure i could sit here all day giving you tips and advice ... but i'm mad busy :)

IF you have any questions or need help ... feel free to ask or contact me via PM :)

Also ... My journal ( Link below ) might have some tips for you in the early stages :)

Hope this helps ... have fun :)

V :peace:
 

dux

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Great use of space!Better to grow than hang clothes ... I'm no pro but when I built my room I re:did my ducting and took out as many bends and hard turns as I could and the air flows much better!
Just an FYI..
happy gardening..
 

scottish lad

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Vento

i have washed all the wall down with an anti bac and mold wash ( i work in pestcontrol so got the proper stuff to insure no pests or mold starts )
only looking to grow 3 plants max plus i for got to say i also got a 250 cfl for the lower of plants once they get a bit bigger .
agree with the ducting it is a mess lol i will move it and see what i can do .
yea my fan is in the box its needed in there to make it quieter . about carbon filter there is a home made in the intake at the cool tube ducting plus another one at the end of the ducting pipe
for temps i know it will be fine it all used to run in a cupboard 1 1/2f wide 1f deep and 7f high and i got temps stable at 80f .i do need to test it for humidity .
got plent o mylar was just leaving the room walls dry after wash down to get rid of all water substance before i cover it all .

thanks for the advise vento and al give a pm if a get stuck .
 

scottish lad

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Pureblood :

i am going with 1 blue cheese 1 big bang and 1 original ak .

thses ones are going to be done 12/12 from seed to allow my self time to build a veg room then i will be growing critical mass .
 

Vento

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hehe Scotish Lad ... Im impressed :)

A Pro Washed the room ... Home made filters and silencers ... Room Stable at 80f in the britsh summertime :)... Shit .. You don't need much if ANY advice from me :)

Good Job man +Rep , I will be following your journal if you make one :)

All My family are from Scotland btw :) ... I was the only one born down here in Mighty ENGLAND :)

Look forward to seeing a jounrnal :)

V :peace:
 

scottish lad

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vento :

cheers for the rep man .............
and the temps actually sit 78.7 had it running from 10 this morning and just checked it lol but rem this is Scotland its freezing up here barely get above 13/14c lol and that's summer weather lol england gets all the good weather :hump:.
humidity is sitting at 55% that should be fine with veg if i go that way but will need to lower it for flowering

a will be doing journal once i decide wither to go 12/12 from seed to allow me to have a constant crop ever 3 weeks or a big crop every 3 months ?????????????????
its just for personal so leaning more to 12/12 .:joint:

ps . i love getting advises vento its the only way to learn .cheers .
 

Vento

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Hi ya Scotish :)

55 % is ok but the more you can bring it down the better , Most of the time your humidity will spike when lights are off or i its much colder outside than in your room ....Do you keep your extraction running while lights off ?

Argos are haveing a clear out , Challenge Mini Dehumidifier is Less than £20 ... I think Aldis are doing one now to for about the same price .


http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?storeId=10001&catalogId=1500002451&langId=-1&searchTerms=CHALLENGE+MIDI+DEHUMIDIFIER

On the Subject of Aldi's ( dunno if you have one near to you ..i think they deliver ) they allso have little Plug in Mini Air purifiers / ionizers for £13 , I got one the other day to give it a blast ...Not only does it reduce smell's and oders ... it helps to reduce the build up of bactiria and mould and only runs at 3 watts ... I rate them and will be doing a write up on them at my forum so that people can see if they are any good for them :) .. Small room like yours it would be prefect :)

http://www.aldi-stores.co.uk/uk/html/offers/special_buys3_13540.htm

The weather in UK is pretty hard to stay in tune with when its supposed to be warm ..it might be ...or it might not be ...And yea your right Scotland weather extreams are prolly the worst ... But it would be boring just being able to manage temps and humidity with out hassle :)
 

scottish lad

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no i dont i turn it off when light are off .

cheers for the DEHUMIDIFIE info am going to get one tomorrow . :)

am i correct in be leaving i should keep humidity around 40% rather that 55%??????? done some research and the more i read on humidity the more i get confused ha ha
 

Vento

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Hi :)

Let us know how you get on with it when you get it :)

For Veg stage humidity is not a problem unless it gets up to about 90% and mold or mildew start to form. 50-70% is fine

For Flowering stage the humidity will effect the thc production, Anything between 55 and 45 is fine ... but if you can get it lower towards harvest time .. that will help A LOT .

The reason the tricombs are produced is to protect the buds/seeds from drought, so if the soil is very dry when you harvest the bud will have more thc :)

So really this is the time you need to be getting that RH down :)

Hers a quote froma PDF i have

Understanding Relative Humidity RH

Relative humidity is often overlooked when growing indoors. However, if you
want strong healthy plants, you need to consider the relative humidity of your
grow room. Here we explain what you need to know…..

What is humidity and why is it important?

Humidity is the amount of water vapour in the air compared to how much moisture the air
could possibly hold at that temperature. Humidity influences plant growth because it directly affects
the amount of water that your plants move through their stems and leaves. This keeps your plants
hydrated and transports vital nutrients.
What should the level of humidity be in my grow room?
For healthy plant growth, you should aim for a relative humidity of 50-70%. Humidity can be mesured using a hygrometer.


What are the consequences if the humidity in my grow room is too high?


If humidity in your grow room is too high, you have the perfect environment for spores to
germinate and fungi to grow. The most common type of mould you will encounter is Botrytis (Bud
Rot). Others include leaf moulds, such as Powdery Mildrew. There’s also a risk of stem and root
infections, although these are less common.

High humidity can be a sign that there’s not enough ventilation in your grow room so you may want
to rectify this.

What are the consequences if the humidity
in my grow room is too low?


If humidity is too low, it’ll cause the leaves of your plants to curl upwards at the margins, looking like
a tube/straw. This humidity decreases the amount of transpiration as less leaf surface is exposed to
dry air, which lowers the amount of water your plants will lose.
Generally, low humidity tends to be more common than high humidity. In fact, when growing indoors
under hot lights, most hydroponic growers tend to start off with very low humidity. This is problematic
because humidity needs to be relatively high during the vegetative growth stages.

Humidity and the Dark Cycle

Some indoor growers find that when the lights go out the relative humidity shoots up. This’ll lead to
mould problems like Botrytis on fruits or flowers if the night time humidity is too high. This can be
corrected by using a dehumidifier. Be sure that the dehumidifier does not remove too much water
during this time as it can over-dry the air, causing the plant to loose water through its leaf tips. This
water can collect on the leaves, creating the perfect micro environment for spore germination.
Ideally, you want your grow room to have a lower humidity during the day compared to the night.
The ideal figures to aim at during fruit/flower formation would be 50-60% in the light cycle and
60-70% during the dark cycle.


Humidity and Propagation

During the propagation stages, rooting, cuttings or germinating seedlings humidity is controlled and
kept high using a propagator, .It's recommended
that you spray the lid of your propagator daily to keep the humidity above 80%. This’ll
minimise water loss through the plant and concentrate its energy on producing new roots.
In summary, you’ll achieve the best results with your plants if you keep humidity above 50% and
below 70%, and make sure that the humidity is not lower in the night than day.
Lots of conflicting info around , I use common sence and think of a years cycle from winter to autum :)

Hope this helped :)
 

scottish lad

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ah........ am now starting to understand the relation ship between humidity and grow time(veg/flower)

your a star vento

am going to start grow journey in next day or 2 al send you a pm with link and ya can see how the humidifier is working

cheers again for all the info .
 

scottish lad

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vento .

i found and air purifier in Lloyd,s pharmacy for 7.99 .
the cheaper the better and it a bigger and better unit than the aldi 1 you posted .
just to let ya know .
 
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