My new soon to be grow space

Shark Bait

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That makes sence if it's right. A double 30 amp means it's a 240v with 30amp breaker. If that's used as a sub panel you just got 60 amps of 120. That alone would run your setup. But have someone check it first. Got a friend that know electrical?
No body to help, so I'll have to research it and work it out. If I am hearing you right, I need to wire up a sub breaker panel, then run outlets from that. Should this panel be outside the room?
 

Warlock1369

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Man I'm sorry. If you have no knowledge of electric. I can't feel good about telling you how to do it. It's the biggest risk of fire and death. I can only point you in the wright way. Get somebody that knows. 240 will kill you fast. If your close to me I have a few days off would happily do it for you. I'm in Cali. If you are to send a pm with your town. And we can go from there.
 

Shark Bait

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Man I'm sorry. If you have no knowledge of electric. I can't feel good about telling you how to do it. It's the biggest risk of fire and death. I can only point you in the wright way. Get somebody that knows. 240 will kill you fast. If your close to me I have a few days off would happily do it for you. I'm in Cali. If you are to send a pm with your town. And we can go from there.
I am no expert by no means, but I have done my fair share of Wiring. I have replaced a breaker in the panel, run a GFI outlet outside for a pool from a new line off the breaker, and replaced almost every outlet in my house when we moved in. I am looking for thoughts and suggestions, as I will research fully before I screw with the juice. Thanks
 

Warlock1369

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Ok. So you got the basics. You will need to use a volt meter to make sure it's 240. Then wire up a sub panel. White and black are your hots. Both running 120. Wire up 4 15 amp brakers. Any bigger and your asking for truble. Wire 1 outlet to each braker. Do not use wing nuts/caps or exstention cords for this. 14-10 gauge wire only. 10 would be better. Sounds easy but double check everything. Get a plug checker and test plugs 1 at a time. Shutting off each braker as you go.
 

Shark Bait

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Ok. So you got the basics. You will need to use a volt meter to make sure it's 240. Then wire up a sub panel. White and black are your hots. Both running 120. Wire up 4 15 amp brakers. Any bigger and your asking for truble. Wire 1 outlet to each braker. Do not use wing nuts/caps or exstention cords for this. 14-10 gauge wire only. 10 would be better. Sounds easy but double check everything. Get a plug checker and test plugs 1 at a time. Shutting off each braker as you go.
If I verify the wire running to the timer is that breaker can I use this to my new sub panel, or worth running new wire?

And thanks
 

Warlock1369

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As long as it's 10-8 gauge wire yes. 240 it should be 10. Easy way to test is white and green no power it's 120. White and black 240. Black and green 120. If there is a red/orange. It should read 0 to everything.
 

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bought a 6in vortex fan and a 600 HPS sun system today

OK now for lights to start with, one 600 watt HPS, and one DS 200 Diamond LED 3w LEDs with Optical lens.

I also have and will be using CFL's around the perimeter. I have a bunch already and thus keeps the current $$$ investment low, and as I start harvesting thus saving money and then can invest more.

With the HPS, it is my understanding that I should keep the balast out side the room. Any ideas on to do this?
 

Warlock1369

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Depends on your ballest. You can get extra long cords froM your hydro store. Outside is the best but sometimes you cant. Like me mine are in the room.
 

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Power to the room

I am going to run a sub panel from a dual 30 amp breaker (60 total i think), to a sub panel on the outside wall. From there I am thinking 4 breakers, 1 running 2 outlets on the flowered on an outside wall shelf for ballasts, 1 running 1 outlet for each flower and veg on outside shelf, thus being 3 outlets for flower and 1 for veg on the outside wall where there will be a shelf put in for ballasts and anything else that I can keep out of the room. 1 breaker will be running 4 outlets in the flower space and the 4th breaker will be running 4 outlets in the veg space.

Questions to be answered

How do I hook up a sub panel, from the dual breaker, should I use 10/3 wire or is 12/3 or 14/3 (already have some of this) ok? (in a few posts previous there has been some discussion about this, I will review this again later)

Is it ok or even a good Idea to put outlets in the grow space, and it if is should i use a special kind? I am planning on using a GFC on each run, I believe you can only use one per circuit and it should be at the beginning.


thanks for any input
 

Warlock1369

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Use 10/3. And yes plugs can be in room but make sure you have a drip loop on all cords before going to the plug. It's just a loop or bend under the plug. Like this.
you can see it in 7 sec. Sorry don't have a pic and my lights are out or I'd take one. Gfi plugs arnt the best for grow rooms. When they get hot they trip more then they should. Ballest will do that. I know it's dosnt sound right but it's just the way it is. In wet zones. Say next to res use a gfi power strip to plug pumps and fans into. Like this.
not the best for drip loop but nothing is higher then the plug. Will my speaker plug is but what ever. Lol hope that answers some of your questions.
 

Shark Bait

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Sorry have not gotten back to here for a bit, do most of my updates over at Grasscity. But the room is up and running, 400 MH in veg space, 600 HPS in flower, 1000 MH is hooked up, but it freaking drives the heat up, had 103 top first night, just he HPS runs 70 to 80s. Added a wall fan, but need to take the time to hang it better, then I am going to add some vent "pvc" tubes to allow for more air flow. Also need to think about adding a filter, as I would like to blow into my basement in the winter, figure I can keep a little extra heat, and not melt all the snow in my yard, while every one else has a foot.
 
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