My Outdoor Garden-2010

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Rtoke

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veggiegardener said:
Any unnuted potting mix will work. You can mix it with native soil to extend it.

Once plants are established, any balanced fertilizer will get good sized plants.

During bloom, you reduce the Nitrogen applied, and increase the Phosphorous and Potassium.
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hey veg, nice tips mate !!!! im worried about the manure burning my plants, i have a compost and topsoil place up the road that is so cheap !!!! 1 square meter for $15 cheap were i am lol !!!

So will churn up the ground add top soil and compost and munure !!! aye !!! do i plant into that mix after transplant or plant nto of plain soil so the roots dont touch the manure ??

Cheers mate will post pic soon of my veggie patch !!! i havnt seen your veggies yet !!! hahah you should cange your name weedgardner man !!!

Peace
 
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DarKev

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heehee! Rtoke.........read Question 1.

The Man is taken! dang.

But no reason I can't listen, look, follow him with my Gourd and Sandal, but just not touch him. :)

The Man knows his gardening. That is for sure!
 
veggiegardener

veggiegardener

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Rtoke said:
hey veg, nice tips mate !!!! im worried about the manure burning my plants, i have a compost and topsoil place up the road that is so cheap !!!! 1 square meter for $15 cheap were i am lol !!!

So will churn up the ground add top soil and compost and munure !!! aye !!! do i plant into that mix after transplant or plant nto of plain soil so the roots dont touch the manure ??

Cheers mate will post pic soon of my veggie patch !!! i havnt seen your veggies yet !!! hahah you should cange your name weedgardner man !!!

Peace
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Congratulations on the easy access!

If the manure is fresh, it's best to spread it over your garden spot for the winter, and till it in a couple weeks before you plant.

Your plants will love it!
 
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Rtoke

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hey man, cheers bro !!! so is it sounding good man ^^^^^^ do i plant into it or will it burn the roots ???

plus im going to make a little green house, but its not going to stop the rain cause i want the rain to water for me hahah

what is your soil mix in the ground after you transplant??? im shore you allready said it some where lol
 
veggiegardener

veggiegardener

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Thanks for the encouragement!

It would be fun.

Maybe I'll sort my pix this winter and see what I have that people would really stop and study.

I really dislike the endless series of lookalike bud shots.
 
veggiegardener

veggiegardener

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Rtoke said:
hey man, cheers bro !!! so is it sounding good man ^^^^^^ do i plant into it or will it burn the roots ???

plus im going to make a little green house, but its not going to stop the rain cause i want the rain to water for me hahah

what is your soil mix in the ground after you transplant??? im shore you allready said it some where lol
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It will burn your plants if it doesn't age for a few months, first.

The soil in my beds is 16 years old after bringing samples from my old garden that had been worked for ten years.

Old, rich soil has a huge variety of microbes that can be added to new garden plots.

When we first moved to this location, I brought about twenty five gallon buckets of soil and worms from my old garden.

I added this material to soil, compost and manure I got from a local dairy.

The bacteria worked very quickly in the fresh environment, turning the mix of materials into worm heaven.

What worms like, Cannabis loves.
 
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Rtoke

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veggiegardener said:
It will burn your plants if it doesn't age for a few months, first.

The soil in my beds is 16 years old after bringing samples from my old garden that had been worked for ten years.

Old, rich soil has a huge variety of microbes that can be added to new garden plots.

When we first moved to this location, I brought about twenty five gallon buckets of soil and worms from my old garden.

I added this material to soil, compost and manure I got from a local dairy.

The bacteria worked very quickly in the fresh environment, turning the mix of materials into worm heaven.

What worms like, Cannabis loves.
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You are the best fking person i know !!!!!! 10000% briant !!!

dude come to my house and set me up a garden hahahah lol !!!!

Rep for you mate !!!!

yes manure has been sitting for 6 months ?? this good to plant into ??

I herd all organic cannot burn plants ????

Thanks mate !!!!!!!!!!!!! :p :p :p :) :) :)
 
veggiegardener

veggiegardener

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Even old manure should be mixed with other materials. There's just too much chance of "hot spots".

I'd be leery of using more than 30% manure.

Manure works very well as a side dressing, placing a layer of manure about a foot from the plant's stalk on top of the soil. Covering this with organic mulch(leaves and grass clippings) gives worms and bacteria a perfect environment to break everything down into usable nutes for your plants.
 
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Rtoke

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Ohk so,

Longest day is December 22

1: If i plant mid November and flowering will start February 1st that is 1 month and a half of veg time ?? right ?? so the plants will be 3 Foot ?? and do they get bigger in flowering ?? by like double size so 6 foot finishers ??

2: So if i want some big ass plants, i can grow indoors on 24/0 light for 3 weeks then put outdoors and have any light that is stronger than the moon overnight, they plants will stay in veg and keep growing ?? so if hook up a solar panel and spotlights outdoors on my patch so it turns on at 6pm and off at 6am and sun if from 6am to 6pm then thats 24/0 light then when i want them to flower i take the lights of ?? http://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/lighting_and_electrical/exterior_lights/hpm_solar_accent_spotlight_set_116834.cfm?sid=1&rid=63&orderby=1 and use something like that will that keep them in veg ?? outdoors ??

^^^^^^^ cause i dont want to do the re-veg thing lol

cheers man !!!!:mrgreen::-?:-?:neutral::blsmoke::blsmoke::roll::peace::hump:
 
Countryfarmer

Countryfarmer

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veggiegardener said:
It will burn your plants if it doesn't age for a few months, first.

The soil in my beds is 16 years old after bringing samples from my old garden that had been worked for ten years.

Old, rich soil has a huge variety of microbes that can be added to new garden plots.

When we first moved to this location, I brought about twenty five gallon buckets of soil and worms from my old garden.

I added this material to soil, compost and manure I got from a local dairy.

The bacteria worked very quickly in the fresh environment, turning the mix of materials into worm heaven.

What worms like, Cannabis loves.
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Great advice. The best base to start from if doing a soil grow is a soil naturally rich in worms. As you said it if worms love it, so will cannabis.
 
Countryfarmer

Countryfarmer

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Hey VG, while we are on the topic of soils, I am setting up a worm farm in my backyard. Basically a 55 gallon drum cut in half, on legs (so I can drain the rainwater tea from it) and put under shade. When I sift out the castings, how long should I let them compost before using? You have a ballpark guess?
 
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veggiegardener

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I mix castings with potting mix, or add it as a side dressing in my garden.

My worm box is made of 2" x 12" redwood, 2' x 3', with plywood top and bottom.

I haven't used it in recent years because the worms are currently thriving in all my well mulched beds.

Put a fine screen over the drain holes and place a bucket, underneath.

Standing water at the bottom will turn the environment toxic to worms in a metal container.

There's nothing like a casting tea to give your plants a boost.

I guess you could overdo feeding worm castings, but I've never had a problem.
 
veggiegardener

veggiegardener

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Rtoke said:
Ohk so,

Longest day is December 22

1: If i plant mid November and flowering will start February 1st that is 1 month and a half of veg time ?? right ?? so the plants will be 3 Foot ?? and do they get bigger in flowering ?? by like double size so 6 foot finishers ??

2: So if i want some big ass plants, i can grow indoors on 24/0 light for 3 weeks then put outdoors and have any light that is stronger than the moon overnight, they plants will stay in veg and keep growing ?? so if hook up a solar panel and spotlights outdoors on my patch so it turns on at 6pm and off at 6am and sun if from 6am to 6pm then thats 24/0 light then when i want them to flower i take the lights of ?? http://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/lighting_and_electrical/exterior_lights/hpm_solar_accent_spotlight_set_116834.cfm?sid=1&rid=63&orderby=1 and use something like that will that keep them in veg ?? outdoors ??

^^^^^^^ cause i dont want to do the re-veg thing lol

cheers man !!!!:mrgreen::-?:-?:neutral::blsmoke::blsmoke::roll::peace::hump:
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Yes, they should easily reach six feet.
 
Countryfarmer

Countryfarmer

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veggiegardener said:
I mix castings with potting mix, or add it as a side dressing in my garden.

My worm box is made of 2" x 12" redwood, 2' x 3', with plywood top and bottom.

I haven't used it in recent years because the worms are currently thriving in all my well mulched beds.

Put a fine screen over the drain holes and place a bucket, underneath.

Standing water at the bottom will turn the environment toxic to worms in a metal container.

There's nothing like a casting tea to give your plants a boost.

I guess you could overdo feeding worm castings, but I've never had a problem.
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Much thanks for the info. I didn't even think about metal wormfarms potentially creating a toxic environment for the worms, but that makes complete sense. The only reason I fixed on the drum as a worm container was because that was how my great-grandfather used to grow worms for sale to his fishing customers. But a wooden bed sounds like a better idea and cheaper to set up as well.

The good thing about it is I have a steady source of food for the worms. When I was reading up on how to set up a worm bed I found out that they need their weight in food a day! Amazing! Luckily for me they will eat newsprint and I can get bags and bags of that stuff already chopped up by a shredder. Supplement that with my own organic waste and I should be set.

Thanks again for the info! Much appreciated and it will certainly help out.
 
veggiegardener

veggiegardener

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Mix the newsprint about 50/50 with green vegetable matter, and soak thoroughly.

When they mention newsprint, they don't mean the glossy paper. It takes much longer to break down and be usable by the worms.

If you really want to make the worms happy, brew some weak coffee, and soak the newsprint in it. Be sure to add coffee grounds to your worm box.

Worms will try to escape a box that has any holes large enough to crawl through, which is about 1/32 of an inch. Either take care to fit your boards together, tightly or use a fine screen to line each joint.

My worm box sits under a tree on the north side of a fence to keep sun light from shining on it, directly.
 
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