My plants seem like they are dying... Why????

ramarmy

ramarmy

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LetsGetCritical said:
I had a thought that you may need to add calmag if you are using canna coco nutrients in coco, I found this for you "Canna coco A+B has something like 4.5% calcium and 1.5% magnesium. There is plenty of cal-mag in their base to begin with, even for your soft water. 10ml per gallon of each nets you more than 110ppm of calcium in the solution. The reason Botanicare's Cal-Mag Plus is so effective with canna in soft water is actually due to the chelated iron it contains. Without the iron new growth will be yellow and weak. You tap water may contain the needed iron, it may not..." http://forum.grasscity.com/coco-coir/1090330-canna-nutrients-without-calmag.html
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Ive put them in biobizz all mix now as it seemes a lot of people have been saying canna is not good. Since they have been in the new soil they have picked up so all good :)
 
ramarmy

ramarmy

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If you aint got anything constructive to say they don't bother saying anything!!! Obviously don't have anything better to do with your time eh?
 
LetsGetCritical

LetsGetCritical

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ramarmy said:
Ive put them in biobizz all mix now as it seemes a lot of people have been saying canna is not good. Since they have been in the new soil they have picked up so all good :)
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haha when did this happen I missed it oh well don't have to lower ph then
 
Nizza

Nizza

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i didn't see anywhere if you washed and presoaked/buffered/charged your coco
i usually first rinse the SHIT out of it, (warm water) over and over (i use 1/2-1 block compressed, crappy pyth coco called gro block or something)
then i submerge it, and add an air stone (optional) and add 3ml cal/mag a gallon. now i ph adjust down to 5.0
the ph goes up each day, on the 2nd or 3rd day depending on the amount of water used, it should be up around 6 or 6.5 (or at least higher than 5) you can bring it to 5.8 and wait a day (optional
now i swap the water with fresh water and add the same cal mag dose and 1/4 dose nutrients and ph down it to 5.8

its really hard to dry out so i try to squeeze most of it out and then use it. I've considered taking buckets and putting holes in the bottom so i could use it as a huge strainer into maybe a kiddie pool or something. Right now i just do it all in a bath tub in buckets (PITA)

the reason i add the nutrients along with cal mag is my nutrients don't have enough cal-mag in their formula to fully support the plants. the 1/4 dose sort of gives it a base nutrient and also helps with coco leeching nutrients out of the waterings because it will naturally lockout cal-mag

i also leech the coco once a month with 3x the medium size of water, to avoid salt buildup. a 2 liter bottle would get 6 liters of water ran through it. this cleans out the root are and eases nute uptake . ALWAYS try to match water temperature with temperature of the medium being used, should always be 60-70degrees. This avoids shocking the plants.

in addition to leeching i do a runoff method, where i do first watering "full dose", next watering "half dose", next watering "1/4 dose". Each watering gets about 10% water to runoff so i'm sure that i'm keeping everything nice and fresh, and controlling the pH and ppm's of the coco by constantly running just a little extra through, controlled.

i find silica and carbo additives are great too. My nutes used are Dyna gro; Pro-Tekt, foliage pro, General Hydroponics Calmag, humboldt honey hydro carbo load. I use KLN by dyna grow for transplants and clones and it seems to work
 
ramarmy

ramarmy

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Nizza said:
i didn't see anywhere if you washed and presoaked/buffered/charged your coco
i usually first rinse the SHIT out of it, (warm water) over and over (i use 1/2-1 block compressed, crappy pyth coco called gro block or something)
then i submerge it, and add an air stone (optional) and add 3ml cal/mag a gallon. now i ph adjust down to 5.0
the ph goes up each day, on the 2nd or 3rd day depending on the amount of water used, it should be up around 6 or 6.5 (or at least higher than 5) you can bring it to 5.8 and wait a day (optional
now i swap the water with fresh water and add the same cal mag dose and 1/4 dose nutrients and ph down it to 5.8

its really hard to dry out so i try to squeeze most of it out and then use it. I've considered taking buckets and putting holes in the bottom so i could use it as a huge strainer into maybe a kiddie pool or something. Right now i just do it all in a bath tub in buckets (PITA)

the reason i add the nutrients along with cal mag is my nutrients don't have enough cal-mag in their formula to fully support the plants. the 1/4 dose sort of gives it a base nutrient and also helps with coco leeching nutrients out of the waterings because it will naturally lockout cal-mag

i also leech the coco once a month with 3x the medium size of water, to avoid salt buildup. a 2 liter bottle would get 6 liters of water ran through it. this cleans out the root are and eases nute uptake . ALWAYS try to match water temperature with temperature of the medium being used, should always be 60-70degrees. This avoids shocking the plants.

in addition to leeching i do a runoff method, where i do first watering "full dose", next watering "half dose", next watering "1/4 dose". Each watering gets about 10% water to runoff so i'm sure that i'm keeping everything nice and fresh, and controlling the pH and ppm's of the coco by constantly running just a little extra through, controlled.

i find silica and carbo additives are great too. My nutes used are Dyna gro; Pro-Tekt, foliage pro, General Hydroponics Calmag, humboldt honey hydro carbo load. I use KLN by dyna grow for transplants and clones and it seems to work
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Thanks for the advice. I have now switched to biobizz all mix as coco seems to be a lot of work. It's my first grow and want to try and keep things as simple as possible for now and when I get a little more experienced I shall try some different things. Thanks again tho and will keep this in mind if I go back to coco
 
Bakatare666

Bakatare666

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ramarmy said:
Ive put them in biobizz all mix now as it seemes a lot of people have been saying canna is not good. Since they have been in the new soil they have picked up so all good :)
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I didn't realize when you had t-planted to the bigger containers that you added soil instead of.
 
ramarmy

ramarmy

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HI everyone

Just a quick update to show you how my plants have gotten on since I last posted pictures. They are doing really well now and just want to thank you all again.
One more thing tho, I have them under a 150w hps bulb at the moment and was wondering when I should change it over to the 250w? Please could somebody help me with this asap.

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